another abuse gang

[IanMorewood]

Mermaid said:

don't buy a car from Bradford.

A used car mantra that I have lived by for about fifteen years, prior to that it seemed every used car I was interested in was in Bradford, most where incredibly disappointing and some downright dodgy.

[carinaman]

File on 4 said that they don't keep details of ethnicity of those convicted of these crimes.

But hey ho, Theresa May resurrected the Snooper's Charter to protect us from Paedophiles and Terrorists so I don't think we should concern ourselves unduly.

[andymc]

IanMorewood said:

Mermaid said:

don't buy a car from Bradford.

A used car mantra that I have lived by for about fifteen years, prior to that it seemed every used car I was interested in was in Bradford, most where incredibly disappointing and some downright dodgy.

The home of the Cat D (eeleys)

[andymc]

carinaman said:

File on 4 said that they don't keep details of ethnicity of those convicted of these crimes.

But hey ho, Theresa May resurrected the Snooper's Charter to protect us from Paedophiles and Terrorists so I don't think we should concern ourselves unduly.

absolute tripe I bet

[Mermaid]

carinaman said:

File on 4 said that they don't keep details of ethnicity of those convicted of these crimes.

But hey ho, Theresa May resurrected the Snooper's Charter to protect us from Paedophiles and Terrorists so I don't think we should concern ourselves unduly.

Send this man an email

https://email.number10.gov.uk



His old/past favourite (PC token) thinks he should not focus on immigration - quelle surprise

http://www.theguardian.com/politics/2014/oct/24/sa...

[anonymous-user]

To be fair to her, she's spoken out against it before.

http://www.standard.co.uk/news/politics/full-inter...

[Transmitter Man]

FiF said:

So if there are 16,000 cases reported how many have gone unreported?

If you haven't already listened to the File on 4 pod cast then I really urge you to do so. Horrific, worse than I expected.

Actually around 15000.

[FiF]

Transmitter Man said:

FiF said:

So if there are 16,000 cases reported how many have gone unreported?

If you haven't already listened to the File on 4 pod cast then I really urge you to do so. Horrific, worse than I expected.

Actually around 15000.

Ok is that15,000 reported as a correction to the 16,000 or an estimate of unreported? If it's just 15,000 reported that makes it better does it? But correction accepted for what it's worth.

The unreported I'm referencing are where it's abuse within the community by family and their group. Example the girl of Pakistani family who went with her boyfriend to a party only to find it wasn'ta party but several older males raped her while her supposed boyfriend watched. RThe whole episode being filmed and she was threatened that the film would be made available if she spoke out. Stuff like this which involves abuse within a community and for whatever reason goes unreported.

[rich1231]

The astounding reluctance to call it as it is in the news today means that no lessons have been learned. The media should have no fear in stating that is a particular culture and nationality doing this yet they don't. How on earth is anything going to change if we cannot state facts.

[IanMorewood]

andymc said:

The home of the Cat D (eeleys)

Nah Cat is originally from Sutton Coldfield.



But I see what you mean about Bradford.

[Mermaid]

rich1231 said:

The astounding reluctance to call it as it is in the news today means that no lessons have been learned. The media should have no fear in stating that is a particular culture and nationality doing this yet they don't. How on earth is anything going to change if we cannot state facts.

Westminster is too far, too high - these are problems of little people, and Westminster only cares about votes. If Ebola could vote, they would be inviting it in.

For the record, the perpetrators are mainly Muslim, predominantly Pakistani.

[Digga]

Mermaid said:

rich1231 said:

The astounding reluctance to call it as it is in the news today means that no lessons have been learned. The media should have no fear in stating that is a particular culture and nationality doing this yet they don't. How on earth is anything going to change if we cannot state facts.

Westminster is too far, too high - these are problems of little people, and Westminster only cares about votes. If Ebola could vote, they would be inviting it in.

For the record, the perpetrators are mainly Muslim, predominantly Pakistani.

I know from a friend in the police, the problems associated with not being allowed to 'profile' groups of offenders, even when the facts are staring you in the face is a major issue. There are other criminal activities - on a smaller scale - in communities where there are clear links to certain, very clearly defined groups of immigrants (I know of one such with Iraqis a few years ago, for example) where the police are hamstrung in their efforts to pro-actively combat the problem.

It's delusional madness; if there were a spate of crimes where white Ford Transit vans are involved, you would have to look at all owners of white Ford Transit vans. It should be no different with any other common denominator of a particular criminal activity.

[Dog Star]

Digga said:

I know from a friend in the police, the problems associated with not being allowed to 'profile' groups of offenders, even when the facts are staring you in the face is a major issue. There are other criminal activities - on a smaller scale - in communities where there are clear links to certain, very clearly defined groups...

Crash for cash scams.

Back on topic - back in the 80s and 90s my sisters and their mates would invariably be propositioned by taxi drivers in Rochdale. It was an accepted part of life back then. They'd just tell them to f--k off, though I can see how the vulnerable might be coerced) which would be an end to the matter (except the time when a gang of P---s beat my sister up so badly they broke her arm for answering back to their catcalls). Lovely people. My opinions on them and their religion are illegal these days, however.

[anonymous-user]

So what would be a sensible answer/solution? How can the man in the street make a difference? IME, emails to MPs do the sum of fk all.

[andymc]

OpulentBob said:

So what would be a sensible answer/solution? How can the man in the street make a difference? IME, emails to MPs do the sum of fk all.

Probably by voting in the UKIP and forcing the other parties to change their manifestos, although I fear lots of areas are already 3rd World ghettos

[carinaman]

I think the mainstream parties need a wake up call. Their 'policies' are that similar that it could be down to personalities and the like. I looked at some stuff about a prospective MP for my constituency. While it has some good, worthy stuff I think is commendable and agree with, they're not clear with a fact and I concluded that it's the same old stuff, different political colour and that being an MP is a career option for them.

Would an influx of new blood consisting of independents and UKIP help shake the establishment out of their arrogance and complacency?


Ann Coffey MP saying that things are improving in the field of the child sexual exploitation in the north reminded me of the BBC Monkey Dust New Truth sketch.

[samuelellis]

carinaman said:

Ann Coffey MP saying that things are improving in the field of the child sexual exploitation in the north reminded me of the BBC Monkey Dust New Truth sketch.

For those who have not seen it

http://youtu.be/asFU5ReztXU

[IanMorewood]

Whilst ukip may well be a short sharp shock to jolt the main parties back to life I'm not sure how they would manage as the party in power. Trouble is despite the by-election and Euro results no one as yet (in power) has seen that ukip are going to be a major part of life in Westminster after the general election, I predict that they will come second overall in England and will without doubt push the libdems into fourth place. As such they could be part of a coalition government in what six months time?

[Dan_1981]

It would appear people don't want to change though - yesterday was the election for the PCC for Rotherham & surrounding areas after the resignation of Labours Sean Wright who oversaw the towns children's services during the abuse.

Results are in today and Labour have won with a larger majority than last time.

[Mermaid]

Dog Star said:

Crash for cash scams.

I forgot that one.

Slow minicab drive in front of you - easy to guess that he supports the green and white. He wants you to run into him, so can claim compensation.