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Transmitter Man

4,253 posts

223 months

Thursday 20th November 2014
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[quote=Mermaid][quote=RobGT81][quote=carinaman]

I like that Mermaid.

I will add it to my collection which includes:

1. Integration is a two way process in which both immigrant and indigenous population are free to keep the best of both cultures.

A Minaret doesn’t allow anyone freedom of choice to listen or not. I don’t want to be awoken at 4 am by someone shouting “come to prayer, prayer is better than sleep” in Arabic. It may be a Muslim opinion that prayer is better than sleep, but it’s not mine. If Muslims want to be awoken at this time then they can buy an alarm clock that plays MP3’s and play recordings of the call to prayer in the privacy of their own bedrooms.

And here is the problem. The Islamic teachings forbid integration. They demand the follower maintain the Islamic ways without change. They demand the follower force all others to become Muslim.

The Cuckoo analogy is most apt; when a bird fails to protect its nest from a Cuckoo, the Cuckoo sneaks in. It displaces the indigenous population of the nest and murders them. It tricks the host into giving succour. Greedily it demands more and more from its host; the more the host gives, the more the Cuckoo demands. There is no integration between Cuckoo and host. The spawn of the nest will not become as the host bird. It will grow to murder the offspring of others.

If and when the Muslim faith ever progresses to admit change of itself and the right of others to choose not to submit, then integration can begin. It cannot begin prior to this because until then the Muslim teachings forbid it.

Until then, Muslims must be admitted without compromise on the part of the host country. Muslims who wish to reside in non Muslim countries must accept the domestic culture in its entirety without trying to impose their beliefs upon the host. If this is unacceptable to any Muslim individual then they are free to reside in a Muslim state, just as I am free to choose to reside in a non Muslim state. The difference is that I don’t seek to remove Muslim freedom of choice to live in a Muslim state by expecting that the Muslim states abandon Islam.

2. Speech from the Australian Prime Minister!! The only question is WHY our PM hasn’t got her balls!! (so to speak!!)

Truer words have never been spoken.

It took a lot of courage for this woman to speak, what she had to say for the world to hear. The retribution could be phenomenal, but at least she was willing to take a stand on her and Australia’s beliefs.

The whole world needs a leader like this!



Prime Minister Julia Gillard - Australia

Muslims who want to live under Islamic Sharia law, were told on Wednesday to get out of Australia , as the government targeted radicals in a bid to head off potential terror attacks..

Separately, Gillard angered some Australian Muslims on Wednesday by saying she supported spy agencies monitoring the nation's mosques. Quote:


'IMMIGRANTS, NOT AUSTRALIANS, MUST ADAPT. Take it or Leave It.

I am tired of this nation worrying about whether we are offending some individual or their culture. Since the terrorist attacks on Bali, we have experienced a surge in patriotism by the majority of Australians. '

'This culture has been developed over two centuries of struggles, trials and victories by millions of men and women who have sought freedom'

'We speak mainly ENGLISH, not Spanish, Lebanese, Arabic, Chinese, Japanese, Russian, or any other language. Therefore, if you wish to become part of our society. Learn the language!'

'Most Australians believe in God. This is not some Christian, right wing, political push, but a fact, because Christian men and women, on Christian principles, founded this nation, and this is clearly documented. It is certainly appropriate to display it on the walls of our schools. If God offends you, then I suggest you consider another part of the world as your new home, because God is part of our culture.'

'We will accept your beliefs, and will not question why. All we ask is that you accept ours, and live in harmony and peaceful enjoyment with us.'

'This is OUR COUNTRY, OUR LAND, and OUR LIFESTYLE, and we will allow you every opportunity to enjoy all this. But once you are done complaining, whining, and griping about Our Flag, Our Pledge, Our Christian beliefs, or Our Way of Life, I highly encourage you take advantage of one other great Australian freedom, 'THE RIGHT TO LEAVE'.'

'If you aren't happy here then LEAVE. We didn't force you to come here. You asked to be here. So accept the country YOU accepted.'

Phil

Mermaid

21,492 posts

170 months

Thursday 20th November 2014
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Good stuff TM. Thanks.

Fast forward and Uk is 50% Muslim & its ways. It will solve the immigration issue, and few tourists. wink

Transmitter Man

4,253 posts

223 months

Thursday 20th November 2014
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Unfortunately it's not, for the past ten years, and I mean ten years each successive government has stated the Muslim population of the UK is 5%.

LOL Phil

TTwiggy

11,500 posts

203 months

Thursday 20th November 2014
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So this thread has now descended to the level of posting 'Facebook bullst' has it?

andymc

7,334 posts

206 months

Thursday 20th November 2014
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TTwiggy said:
So this thread has now descended to the level of posting 'Facebook bullst' has it?
no but you can like for an inbox

Mermaid

21,492 posts

170 months

Thursday 20th November 2014
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TTwiggy said:
So this thread has now descended to the level of posting 'Facebook bullst' has it?


As Julia Gillard would have said " If you do not have a sense of humour, you can fk off from here. smile BTW what part did you you think was OTT.

TTwiggy

11,500 posts

203 months

Thursday 20th November 2014
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Mermaid said:
TTwiggy said:
So this thread has now descended to the level of posting 'Facebook bullst' has it?


As Julia Gillard would have said " If you do not have a sense of humour, you can fk off from here. smile BTW what part did you you think was OTT.
It's not about considering anything 'OTT', it's just that people keep calling for a sensible, open, adult debate, and then you post that crap.

Mermaid

21,492 posts

170 months

Thursday 20th November 2014
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TTwiggy said:
Mermaid said:
TTwiggy said:
So this thread has now descended to the level of posting 'Facebook bullst' has it?


As Julia Gillard would have said " If you do not have a sense of humour, you can fk off from here. smile BTW what part did you you think was OTT.
It's not about considering anything 'OTT', it's just that people keep calling for a sensible, open, adult debate, and then you post that crap.
Lighten up and discuss the contents with a few of your mates - see if they get the message from this humour.

andymc

7,334 posts

206 months

Thursday 20th November 2014
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Mermaid said:
TTwiggy said:
Mermaid said:
TTwiggy said:
So this thread has now descended to the level of posting 'Facebook bullst' has it?


As Julia Gillard would have said " If you do not have a sense of humour, you can fk off from here. smile BTW what part did you you think was OTT.
It's not about considering anything 'OTT', it's just that people keep calling for a sensible, open, adult debate, and then you post that crap.
Lighten up and discuss the contents with a few of your mates - see if they get the message from this humour.
OK loads of white girls are being raped by Pakistani men without recourse from their peers or community, I'm pretty sure child rapists get drummed out of all white areas and are rehoused out of the area and not stuck in the next Toyota Avensis to do the airport run

devonshiredave

552 posts

201 months

Saturday 22nd November 2014
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http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2844528/Ta...

And another one...... location/ethnicity/occupation all far too predictable


Mermaid

21,492 posts

170 months

Sunday 23rd November 2014
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devonshiredave said:
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2844528/Ta...

And another one...... location/ethnicity/occupation all far too predictable
Let me guess - Pakistani Muslims.

gpo746

3,397 posts

129 months

Sunday 23rd November 2014
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andymc said:
OK loads of white girls are being raped by Pakistani men without recourse from their peers or community, I'm pretty sure child rapists get drummed out of all white areas and are rehoused out of the area and not stuck in the next Toyota Avensis to do the airport run
I know its a high price to pay but was it not worth it in the context of fostering great community relations and being politically correct ?
Were we not right to go easy on these people for the good of the wider picture ?


carinaman

21,224 posts

171 months

Sunday 23rd November 2014
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gpo746 said:
I know its a high price to pay but was it not worth it in the context of fostering great community relations and being politically correct ?
Were we not right to go easy on these people for the good of the wider picture ?
Shouldn't someone ask the victims and the relatives of their victims?

Shouldn't those promulgating that line be offering up their own offspring for such sexual abuse?

'Do unto others.....', 'Do no evil'?

Where's the moral compass? Rattling around under the backseat of a minicab?


Treating one group of paedophiles differently because of their ethnicity sounds like discrimination and a lack of impartiality to me.

Edited by carinaman on Sunday 23 November 10:28

Mermaid

21,492 posts

170 months

Sunday 23rd November 2014
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Once/If UKIP make this an issue, the others will jump on the bandwagon. Otherwise steady as she goes before the elections.

dudleybloke

19,718 posts

185 months

Sunday 23rd November 2014
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Unpunished gang rape in Bangladesh.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XY7QOlqirns&lis...

The imman's way to stop men raping women is to tell women to stay indoors in a small room.

fking animals. Why the hell are we paying for their flood defences.

heppers75

3,135 posts

216 months

Sunday 23rd November 2014
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dudleybloke said:
Unpunished gang rape in Bangladesh.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XY7QOlqirns&lis...

The imman's way to stop men raping women is to tell women to stay indoors in a small room.

fking animals. Why the hell are we paying for their flood defences.
I have spent some time in Dhaka and Bangladesh is a changing and developing country (and I quite like the place) also the west is very reliant on such locations as a source for amongst many things garment production. So improving their infrastructure and ability to do that better, safer, more ethically and more sustainably is in the wests interests in many cases and quite unconnected to this debate for the most part.

The main issue here of course is that attitude on display by this backwater Imam from the depths of Bangladesh is on the increase here, I would contend because of the lack of even desire to integrate and in turn the overarching tenants of some of those practising the religion in question to not bend or deviate from its centuries old attitudes and beliefs. The upshot of that is it starts to land on our doorstep and has manifested itself by the plethora of cases all around the UK involving people of clearly the same beliefs structure.

Until that connection is allowed to be made and then properly dealt with, without the R word etc being bandied about and other such PC type arguments which prevent it from happening, then frankly lets face it sod all will be done about it!

irocfan

40,153 posts

189 months

Monday 24th November 2014
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gruffalo

7,509 posts

225 months

Monday 24th November 2014
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Mermaid

21,492 posts

170 months

Monday 24th November 2014
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gruffalo said:
Castration mandatory for such offences, if only the Home secretary had big balls.

heppers75

3,135 posts

216 months

Monday 24th November 2014
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Mermaid said:
gruffalo said:
Castration mandatory for such offences, if only the Home secretary had big balls.
Also if only there was not so much hysteria created around the targeting of the majority of the perpetrators of such acts by various 'interested parties' then perhaps the some more would be able to be done.