Glass Buttons

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W1111AM

942 posts

129 months

Thursday 21st August 2014
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Drivetheworld, that's extremely helpful to know about the barb. I have a clear switch in my hand and can see the barb that locks the switch into the fascia, it has an internal shaping which is the babe you are describing!

The plan therefore, break the black female connector on the new glass switch (to keep the metal barrel in tact). Old black switch, break the metal case to keep the old female connector in tact. Am I right in thinking the mini circuit board for my old style switches needs transferring over to the new glass switches to keep each switch functionality? Your pictures below of an old black switch:






W1111AM

942 posts

129 months

Thursday 21st August 2014
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Drivetheworld: next step is the button (changing the graphic)





How does the clear button element come apart?
Do I have to grind/file off the old black graphic from the back of the clear plastic?

KarlFranz

2,008 posts

270 months

Thursday 21st August 2014
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W1111AM said:
Drivetheworld: next step is the button (changing the graphic)

How does the clear button element come apart?
Do I have to grind/file off the old black graphic from the back of the clear plastic?
Yes. The black switches have the graphic silk-screened on the front, whilst the glass ones have it on the back. When I was going to do this, my idea was to lightly grind away the old graphic, polish it smooth, and then make a new graphic using my vinyl cutter to adhere to the back. The vinyl would block the backlight illumination except where the graphic was cut out.

divetheworld

2,565 posts

135 months

Thursday 21st August 2014
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divetheworld

2,565 posts

135 months

Thursday 21st August 2014
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OK. In the picture, the chrome plastic part is holding the spring clips in (B). Under the spring clip is the barb that holds the switch connector in (A).
You will not be able to press in both sides of (A) without running the risk of snapping out the spring clip from the chrome housing (B). If the spring clip is broken out, the barrel is trash.



KarlFranz

2,008 posts

270 months

Friday 22nd August 2014
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^^^ and it's amazing how fragile the tiny chrome tabs that hold the spring clips to the barrel are.

"Chromed" plastic is very delicate and brittle.

Edited by KarlFranz on Friday 22 August 01:34

W1111AM

942 posts

129 months

Friday 22nd August 2014
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KarlFranz said:
W1111AM said:
Drivetheworld: next step is the button (changing the graphic)

How does the clear button element come apart?
Do I have to grind/file off the old black graphic from the back of the clear plastic?
Yes. The black switches have the graphic silk-screened on the front, whilst the glass ones have it on the back. When I was going to do this, my idea was to lightly grind away the old graphic, polish it smooth, and then make a new graphic using my vinyl cutter to adhere to the back. The vinyl would block the backlight illumination except where the graphic was cut out.
A friend showed me a technique for submerging in warm water and then the white and black films can be peeled off as the adhesive softens. I have not tried this yet. I am very conscious to not scratch up the graphic face of the clear lens, polishing acrylic is a miserable activity on a flat surface.

The graphic has a hole in it to allow the LED to pull light through to the little barrel inside the clear lens (that lights up for the user). The AM graphic film is in two parts, a black film with graphic cutout, the white is a separate backing which is a solid white translucent film.

After this discovery I now have a new technical problem, the black film/graphic has to block light, the white has to be translucent to become backlit by the LED. I am not sure what material to print this in currently, could I get away with one sheet of something white then printed with black?

W1111AM

942 posts

129 months

Friday 22nd August 2014
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divetheworld said:
I am not on your wavelength quite, laser marking/cutting leaves ghost lines which will then need polishing on the graphic face of the clear button. You're talking: removing the graphic right? Or laser cutting the graphic into the back of the clear lens and then applying black?

W1111AM

942 posts

129 months

Friday 22nd August 2014
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divetheworld said:
OK. In the picture, the chrome plastic part is holding the spring clips in (B). Under the spring clip is the barb that holds the switch connector in (A).
You will not be able to press in both sides of (A) without running the risk of snapping out the spring clip from the chrome housing (B). If the spring clip is broken out, the barrel is trash.


Drivetheworld, top pictures Sir thank you very much!! Great demonstration! I will be careful with the barrel mounting area for the clip to make sure the barrel does not break when releasing the clips.

KF I can see you are right these are delicate, they also seems quite sharp and a classic finger cut job!

divetheworld

2,565 posts

135 months

Friday 22nd August 2014
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W1111AM said:
divetheworld said:
I am not on your wavelength(saw what you did there smile) quite, laser marking/cutting leaves ghost lines which will then need polishing on the graphic face of the clear button. You're talking: removing the graphic right? Or laser cutting the graphic into the back of the clear lens and then applying black?
Exactly right. If you get a plain black button, you can engrave a design by burning off the black on the back.

Speculatore

2,002 posts

235 months

Sunday 7th December 2014
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I was searching for glass buttons but they were previously not available for older cars as mentioned in this thread, then came across this;

http://www.6speedonline.com/forums/aston-martin/35...

I'm getting all of my original buttons replaced with the glass ones while Blofeld is up at BR having his MOT.

mikey k

13,011 posts

216 months

Sunday 7th December 2014
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I saw that yesterday and I reckon I'll get a batch of the old style ones in mine

Jon1967x

7,211 posts

124 months

Sunday 7th December 2014
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Speculatore said:
I was searching for glass buttons but they were previously not available for older cars as mentioned in this thread, then came across this;

http://www.6speedonline.com/forums/aston-martin/35...

I'm getting all of my original buttons replaced with the glass ones while Blofeld is up at BR having his MOT.
The ejector seat button sounds fun.. just need somewhere to put it, bit tricky as I don't have a gear stick

divetheworld

2,565 posts

135 months

Sunday 7th December 2014
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That's cool.

SS972

591 posts

183 months

Sunday 7th December 2014
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I bought a set of glass buttons off Ebay but the barrels were different from the old ones, I opened both and reused the old chrome barrels as the internals are the same.I simply glued the metal tabs and it worked ok with no play.

nicmin

2 posts

77 months

Saturday 25th November 2017
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I know that this thread is three years old now, but I was wondering how people got on with customizing the graphics on these buttons. I have bought a set recently, including four blank ones, which need altering to replace those missing in the standard kit. I was thinking of experimenting with water-slide decals printed on my inkjet and sprayed white on the back; has anyone else come up with a solution that produces neat results?

SS972

591 posts

183 months

Saturday 25th November 2017
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I am still faced with the same issue.

Philip0

329 posts

113 months

Saturday 2nd December 2017
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I've got 4 glass buttons (PNRD), used, 3 of which have one of the spring clips either missing or loose. I now have 4 plastic donor buttons with good spring clips. Can anyone recommend whom I could send them to, so the glass buttons can be fixed using the plastic buttons as donors?


Edited by Philip0 on Saturday 2nd December 14:20

LiquidPT

13 posts

46 months

Sunday 13th September 2020
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I know this is an old thread, but did anyone ever swap the tilt buttons in the headrest of the sport seats? How do they come out?

AstonV

1,569 posts

106 months

Sunday 13th September 2020
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LiquidPT said:
I know this is an old thread, but did anyone ever swap the tilt buttons in the headrest of the sport seats? How do they come out?
Had mine replaced. You have to break the existing. I assume they pry off the plastic button then went inside with screw driver or needle nose pliers and bent the metal spring holders in to remove the outer portion with wiring attached. Plugged wires into glass switch and pushed back into seat. Old switches aren’t reusable.

They gave the old ones back in pieces.