Indian Gang Rape woman dead

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scenario8

6,554 posts

178 months

Monday 1st April 2013
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Africa, South America and Asia are just too foreign. I'm sure it's no more sinister than that. Foreign desks at the papers and the wider media are a shadow of their former selves. Almost non-existent outside of the BBC and even there things are much smaller than they once were. Reporting from outside the UK is very limited. I'd imagine India is an exception because it is extremely cheap and easy for British journalists to visit and to be awarded work visas. There's also a higher interest in that country due to immigration to the UK over the last many decades.

Central and South America really aren't such peaceful places but I doubt there's much of an appetite amongst the public to read about the continent and there's little appetite on behalf of the media to talk about it.

Edited by scenario8 on Monday 1st April 13:33

jas xjr

11,309 posts

238 months

Monday 1st April 2013
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i am a bit weird in many ways . when i go anywhere abroad i consider myself in a very small way an ambassador for the UK . in a lesser way i do the same for india , sikhs , brummies and as a human being . guilt by association if you will .
anyway please enjoy the easter break , this topic is not very conducive to what should be a thoughtful day .

Rude-boy

22,227 posts

232 months

Friday 13th September 2013
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The sentence has been passed and unsurprisingly it is death for those found guilty.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-india-2407833...


I have to say that I do agree that these people should do the Tyburn Jig. It would be wrong to make them suffer a life term in pain and squalor for their actions I will admit, and therefore the removal of their breathing rights is just and humane in my book.

What bothers me the most about this case is that it has been widely reported that whilst these men were part of the horrific attack the most twisted, evil and damaging actions were those of the youth who will (if he isn’t lynched and lest face it, it hasn’t happened yet...) who will be out in 3 years time due to the line in the sand. Difficult debate given the World is shades of grey but the law is black and white.

Eric Mc

121,771 posts

264 months

Friday 13th September 2013
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What is interesting is that there are literally thousands of murders in India every year and very few of these will result in death sentences for the perpetrators.

Have these chaps been sentenced to death because of media interest?

Victor McDade

4,395 posts

181 months

Friday 13th September 2013
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India recently sent 2 terrorists to the gallows however prior to that no one has been executed in well over a decade. These guys will probably end up being caught up in the bureaucratic Indian legal system and spend the rest of their lives in prison.

As for the 'youth' who was sentenced to 3 years, well I can't imagine he'll last very long on the outside once he's released.

Rude-boy

22,227 posts

232 months

Friday 13th September 2013
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I think that it is the media interest that has focused attention not just on this crime but on the situation in India and the surrounding countries with regard to the treatment of women and crimes against them.

As such would the case even have gone to court if it hadn’t become a major international talking point?

I unfortunately don’t have much time today to be careful how I word my posts so will refrain from being too detailed in my opinions. That said I do think that there is murder and murder. Do not get me wrong it is unacceptable on any level to take the life of another without proper, reasonable, justification. That said should a man who learns his 10 year old daughter has just been sexually abused by the neighbour’s 19 year old son and murders the abuser suffer the same punishment as 4 people who rape and murder a young girl over a period of many hours? I think not. In my head one has given up his freedom temporarily trying to protect their family, the others have given up their right to breath.

Eric Mc

121,771 posts

264 months

Friday 13th September 2013
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And I wonder would the rape and murder of a poor young girl living in an Indian slum or a remote village entice the same media interest?

Mermaid

21,492 posts

170 months

Friday 13th September 2013
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Eric Mc said:
And I wonder would the rape and murder of a poor young girl living in an Indian slum or a remote village entice the same media interest?
Putin said we are all equal wink

Rude-boy

22,227 posts

232 months

Friday 13th September 2013
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Mermaid said:
Eric Mc said:
And I wonder would the rape and murder of a poor young girl living in an Indian slum or a remote village entice the same media interest?
Putin said we are all equal wink
Eric, Obviously doubtful. But as this one has caught the eye of the media it has had ramifications that will reach out as far as the backwaters and should set in place a change that will be felt throughout the country.

Look at it this way:-

What would have happened to the guily men in a gang rape in 2011 in Backwater India? Do you think that the same outcome is more or less likely to happen (or not happen) in 2014 since this case?

Mermaid - Yes, so long as you don't like rainbows or are attracted to people of the same sex as you. You know about how much he doth protest and all wink

epom

11,396 posts

160 months

Friday 13th September 2013
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Death by stoning hopefully.

Eric Mc

121,771 posts

264 months

Friday 13th September 2013
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Rude-boy said:
What would have happened to the guily men in a gang rape in 2011 in Backwater India? Do you think that the same outcome is more or less likely to happen (or not happen) in 2014 since this case?
Was there such a case and what did happen?

jas xjr

11,309 posts

238 months

Friday 13th September 2013
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in a rural backwater it would depend non the rapist . if he was from a wealthy family , he would not get even get arrested I am afraid . depends on how connected people are . in india six degrees of separation is close family , plus some money will always help .

nickwilcock

1,522 posts

246 months

Friday 13th September 2013
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The guilty should be offered the choice of death by hanging - or physical castration and life imprisonment.

The death penalty should be mandatory for aggravated rape and also for any form of drug trafficking.


Gargamel

14,957 posts

260 months

Friday 13th September 2013
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Eric Mc said:
And I wonder would the rape and murder of a poor young girl living in an Indian slum or a remote village entice the same media interest?
This is a somewhat specious argument though. Are you suggesting that because there isn'tt law or justice everywhere then it is ok to have it nowhere?

Much like the old argument about why invade Iraq, there are other dictators etc.... well there are other dictators sure, does that mean we should ignore all of them, or deal with some if them ?


Amirhussain

11,486 posts

162 months

Wednesday 6th August 2014
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so called

9,074 posts

208 months

Thursday 7th August 2014
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Amirhussain said:
The attack on the bus was terrible. There have been several high profile attacks on Women since.
I cant see the justification for this kind of bad taste work.

My simple question would be, "would you have produced these photo's if it had been your sister on that bus"?



Edited by so called on Friday 8th August 08:35

RobGT81

5,227 posts

185 months

Tuesday 3rd March 2015
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Not the slightest bit of remorse, it was the victims fault :-/


http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/magazine-31698154

HarryW

15,150 posts

268 months

Tuesday 3rd March 2015
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Actually quite shocked by that BBC article, especially the lawyers comments. Programme on 9pm Sunday evening I beleive.

Mermaid

21,492 posts

170 months

Tuesday 3rd March 2015
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"When being raped, she shouldn't fight back. She should just be silent and allow the rape. Then they'd have dropped her off after 'doing her', and only hit the boy," he said. frown

Put Indian chillis in their eyes & arse of the culprits every few minutes unless they do not scream

DaveR

1,209 posts

283 months

Tuesday 3rd March 2015
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There's so much stuff in the news these days that ought to be more shocking than it is due to the sheer volumes of fked up stuff we get to hear about that sometimes it find myself not even reading to the end of the item.

Have to say I read every word of this BBC interview this morning though and I'm genuinely in a state of disbelief. Just when you thought you'd become numb to it all some new depth comes along.

The fact that there are people like this in the world who would count themselves as 'normal' in the social group in which they live really is beyond the pale.