The PH Gun Cabinet - Shooting Matters

[croyde]

I'm puzzled. Why would they take your .22 rifle off you but let you have a FAC air rifle?

Being FAC isn't the air rifle subject to the same rules as the firearm?

[Don1]

Going from 19 acres to 7 means I don't have the space to fire it outside a club. The .22 rim fire round will travel over one mle, so....

[croyde]

Ahh, thanks Don.

[JABB]

vossy26 said:

My license came through last week, so I took a trip to the local shop. Tryed about a dozen guns in the shop, and worked it down to about 2 or 3 guns.
My favourite that felt the best and the one I kept coming back to was a Beretta 686E sporter. Any knowledge on these before I go back Monday and hand over my cash?

The other contenders were a Browning Cynergy Classic or a new silver pigeon 1.

You NEED to shoot them first. The Browning and Beretta WILL be chalk and cheese. One may shoot well while the other won't, necessarily. I came back to clays and after a Winchester 101 years back ( think Browning fit ) I bought a Browning. Shot it once, and realised it wasn't to fit me. Swapped it for a Beretta and the fit is perfect.

[ceebmoj]

JABB said:

You NEED to shoot them first. The Browning and Beretta WILL be chalk and cheese. One may shoot well while the other won't, necessarily. I came back to clays and after a Winchester 101 years back ( think Browning fit ) I bought a Browning. Shot it once, and realised it wasn't to fit me. Swapped it for a Beretta and the fit is perfect.

As some one who is new to this how do you know? as that sounds like the tipe of mistake I cant afford to make.

Edited by ceebmoj on Sunday 7th September 21:08

[Turn7]

ceebmoj said:

JABB said:

You NEED to shoot them first. The Browning and Beretta WILL be chalk and cheese. One may shoot well while the other won't, necessarily. I came back to clays and after a Winchester 101 years back ( think Browning fit ) I bought a Browning. Shot it once, and realised it wasn't to fit me. Swapped it for a Beretta and the fit is perfect.

As some one who is new to the how do you know?

Firstly, feel.
Secondly,if it fits right, you should hit more.....

[FurtiveFreddy]

There are a few simple measurements you can check when you pick up a shotgun to see if it's close to fitting you.

It's well worth doing some Googling on 'shotgun fit', 'length of pull', 'comb height', 'stock adjustment' etc. etc. before parting with your money on a gun which might look really nice but doesn't fit and can't easily or cost-effectively be adjusted to fit.

This is quite useful as a starting point:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jLLnGM3DXE0

[JABB]

ceebmoj said:

As some one who is new to this how do you know? as that sounds like the type of mistake I cant afford to make.

Edited by ceebmoj on Sunday 7th September 21:08

Most good shops will have some sort of facility or tie in with a ground which allows a try out. It is worth spending a little extra on getting a pro to fit it with you. Buy once!
If the shop doesn't offer that, look else where. There are plenty of guns around.
Where are you, as someone on here will be local and can recommend.

[Mr Trophy]

JABB said:

You NEED to shoot them first. The Browning and Beretta WILL be chalk and cheese. One may shoot well while the other won't, necessarily. I came back to clays and after a Winchester 101 years back ( think Browning fit ) I bought a Browning. Shot it once, and realised it wasn't to fit me. Swapped it for a Beretta and the fit is perfect.

Is this with regards to just the Browning & Beretta or all guns?

[JABB]

Mr Trophy said:

Is this with regards to just the Browning & Beretta or all guns?

No, all guns will be different, but for some reason, starting out, people seen to opt for these two brands.

[OscarIndia]

A Bit of a variation, a gun bought by my Great Grandfather that still is as accurate as the day it was built.
A 1930's Winchester Model 61 pump action .22 Long rifle.

[vossy26]

I popped to a local independent gun shop today who have their own trap to try the guns out. I picked 3 to try, a Beretta 686e, a Browning 525 and a Ceasar Guerini Summit. The Browning was dismissed instantly, just didn't fit/shoot where I wanted it, and the other two were both very good. I ended up hitting more with the Summit so that's the one I bought!
Managed to get £85 off and a cleaning kit thrown in.

Can't wait to take it out!

[Jem0911]

vossy26 said:

I popped to a local independent gun shop today who have their own trap to try the guns out. I picked 3 to try, a Beretta 686e, a Browning 525 and a Ceasar Guerini Summit. The Browning was dismissed instantly, just didn't fit/shoot where I wanted it, and the other two were both very good. I ended up hitting more with the Summit so that's the one I bought!
Managed to get £85 off and a cleaning kit thrown in.

Can't wait to take it out!

Great choice
I shoot the Summit Ascent, once I had it fitted my scores jumped up and are still climbing.

[johnbaz]

A couple more incoming

A lovely Crosman 600 Semi auto...



Crosman 1322 Medalist..



Crosman Skanaker match pistol, This isn't mine yet but shall be soon!! I'm making a right hang grip for it as it came as a left hander and I can't imagine a grip coming up for sale in the next hundred years or so!!!









John

[ceebmoj]

FurtiveFreddy said:

There are a few simple measurements you can check when you pick up a shotgun to see if it's close to fitting you.

It's well worth doing some Googling on 'shotgun fit', 'length of pull', 'comb height', 'stock adjustment' etc. etc. before parting with your money on a gun which might look really nice but doesn't fit and can't easily or cost-effectively be adjusted to fit.

This is quite useful as a starting point:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jLLnGM3DXE0

Thanks for the link. So next question, how do I know when I'm mounting the gun consistently?

I was out earlier and had the worst round of sporting in a long while.

[FurtiveFreddy]

ceebmoj said:

...how do I know when I'm mounting the gun consistently?

Well, you'll hit more for a start

One way is to practice mounting the gun at a static target with your eyes closed, then open them and see where it's pointed in relation to the target.

But as long as the gun fits well, it's more a case of muscle memory to bring the gun up to the same position every time.

[Turn7]

ceebmoj said:

...how do I know when I'm mounting the gun consistently?

Practise, practise,practise is the only I found.

Putting lead up the barrels means you tend not to think to hard about the mount and comes naturally.

I found anyway....

[Dr Jekyll]

Interesting article

http://www.spiked-online.com/newsite/article/swiss...

[Tonsko]

Yeh, it's strange how there's so many guns, and very little gun crime en Suisse.

Anyway - off clay pigeon shooting tomorrow morning, not been for ages. Well looking forward to it. Bet I can't remember any of the advice I was given last time.

[GravelBen]

Tonsko said:

Yeh, it's strange how there's so many guns, and very little gun crime en Suisse.

There are some interesting stats floating around showing that in general (there are a few outliers), national murder rates (and in fact general crime) tend to be inversely proportional to gun ownership - the exact opposite of what anti-gun lobby groups like people to think.

I forget where I saw the compiled data, but it was quite interesting.