FPSH vs Very Good Independent

FPSH vs Very Good Independent

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ewan oozarmy

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106 posts

254 months

Monday 13th September 2004
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My 993TT is due it's 48K service next month and up to now has had all it's scheduled servicing carried out by OPC's which I've not always been happy with. I have used an excellent independent in Herts for any interim work.

I may be looking to sell the car next year and was wondering if anyone here had any thoughts on whether the re-sale value would be affected were I to have future servicing carried out by the independent garage.

toppstuff

13,698 posts

248 months

Monday 13th September 2004
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If it was done by a "name" independent like JZ mactech, Ninemeister, G Force etc , then seeing their stamp in the book would in no way put me off.

In fact, I suspect the independents know more about 993's than the OPC's do these days.

Some of the young greasemonkeys in an OPC have never seen a 993 I reckon, and are trained to simply plug a Cayenne or 996/Boxster into a diagnostic machine and change anything doubtful..

944doc

1,550 posts

240 months

Tuesday 14th September 2004
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agree entirely. the independent is likely to have far greater experience of problems beyond the routine service than an OPC. I would never be put off by an independent's stamp provided I knew the name and knew them to be reputable
Hyacinth Bouquet would insist on a well-dressed Consultant removing her appendix, but the smart money would always go for the Surgical Registrar, who may have a 5 o'clock shadow and a rumpled shirt but does the job day-in day-out and has to get it right or the reference suffers

gazzab

21,109 posts

283 months

Tuesday 14th September 2004
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The reponses from enthusiasts dont represent the majority of 993 buyers.
Ultimately it might not save you money. BUT it will keep your car in better shape ?!

james_j

3,996 posts

256 months

Tuesday 14th September 2004
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I'd have thought that, as time passes, more and more 993 buyers will be enthusiasts, as is probably the case with any Porsche, Ferrari, etc.

i.e. not just badge / brand aware / company car driver as is more commonly the case with the latest model.

gfreeman

1,736 posts

251 months

Tuesday 14th September 2004
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james_j said:
I'd have thought that, as time passes, more and more 993 buyers will be enthusiasts, as is probably the case with any Porsche, Ferrari, etc.

i.e. not just badge / brand aware / company car driver as is more commonly the case with the latest model.


Err forgetting the 997 my daily driver (make that my only car) is my 996 C4. Had it serviced once at OPC Reading and had a HUGE list of non warranty items.

I thought sod your charges matey, wot's the use of a warranty??? I'm off to Camtune who serviced my previous daily driver (944S2). Much friendlier and much better value....

944doc

1,550 posts

240 months

Tuesday 14th September 2004
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gazzab said:
The reponses from enthusiasts dont represent the majority of 993 buyers.


er...its very hard to drive a 993 and not to be ebnthusiastic about it, unless you've been lobotomised. A company porsche will pretty much always be serviced by an OPC. Someone who spends their own hard earned cash on a 993 is likely to have sought that car out specifically because they are an enthusiast, and as such is more likely to have put time and effort into researching and enjoying his/her purchase. Even if they bought it just to pose, its hard to resist the charms of this car. My argument still stands - in buying/selling a 993 you are most likely dealing with people who have put effort into it, not just bought an MPV 'cos the mileage figures in WhatCar were good. As such they are unlikely to be put off by an independent's stamp

fergus

6,430 posts

276 months

Tuesday 14th September 2004
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gazzab said:
The reponses from enthusiasts dont represent the majority of 993 buyers.
Ultimately it might not save you money. BUT it will keep your car in better shape ?!


Who buys them then? How can a monkey technician (sorry, parts fitter) in an OPC keep your car in better shape than a mechanic with experience? I'd be interested to hear your thoughts.

An OPC history guarantees nothing, other than expensive parts prices and risible labour charges, often anecdotally not fixing the problem.... caveat emptor and QED I think.....

shadowninja

76,403 posts

283 months

Tuesday 14th September 2004
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that's the problem with all main dealers i suspect. if it's not working, replace the faulty part. an independent is more likely to try to fix it to save you money.

PS it's Hyacinth Bucket. That's where the whole joke is

turbobloke

104,046 posts

261 months

Tuesday 14th September 2004
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Kept to OPCs when under warranty, frequently disappointed, and the warranty seemed to apply only to the sun visors. Still use OPCs for some parts with PCGB discount, but that's it. Well-known independents have generally been more helpful and just as knowledgeable with less bs and lower bills.

ninemeister

1,146 posts

259 months

Wednesday 15th September 2004
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erm.....not wishing to sound biased in any way BUT in respect of the 993 OPC service shedule, can someone please explain why the oil is changed but the oil filters are left until 24,000 miles?

And you want to go where for a better service?

ninemeister

1,146 posts

259 months

Wednesday 15th September 2004
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erm.....not wishing to sound biased in any way BUT in respect of the 993 OPC service shedule, can someone please explain why the oil is changed but the oil filters are left until 24,000 miles?

And you want to go where for a better service?

poorcardealer

8,526 posts

242 months

Wednesday 15th September 2004
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Also explain why a 12000 mile service on a 996 does not involve taking the wheels off ......... the brakes dont even get cleaned..........absolute joke on a 170 mph car.

steve-p

1,448 posts

283 months

Wednesday 15th September 2004
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poorcardealer said:


Also explain why a 12000 mile service on a 996 does not involve taking the wheels off ......... the brakes dont even get cleaned..........absolute joke on a 170 mph car.


One of my colleagues has his 996 serviced at an OPC. They certainly take the wheels off... and try to sell him 4 new brake discs every time.

poorcardealer

8,526 posts

242 months

Wednesday 15th September 2004
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steve-p said:

poorcardealer said:


Also explain why a 12000 mile service on a 996 does not involve taking the wheels off ......... the brakes dont even get cleaned..........absolute joke on a 170 mph car.



One of my colleagues has his 996 serviced at an OPC. They certainly take the wheels off... and try to sell him 4 new brake discs every time.


As part of a standard 12K service at a OPC, the schedule does not require the technician to remove the wheels..........if they take them off they will probably charge you extra for doing so.........the technician I know who works for a OPC can do 8 12K services on a 996 in a day (with no extra jobs)!!

cuneus

5,963 posts

243 months

Wednesday 15th September 2004
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My experience of independents was very poor. I had the 944 turbo looked after at an OPC and the guy who serviced it owned one

What I am trying to say is that it is not completely black and white