One single thing that makes you think "knob" Vol 2
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silverfoxcc said:
GX62HHU a Ford Estate
Negotiated 7 roundabouts without once indicating his intentions
Not what i would have expected from one of Thames Valleys finest..unless the dog was driving
Still one law for them etc etc etc
Was there any other road user that could have benefited from a signal?Negotiated 7 roundabouts without once indicating his intentions
Not what i would have expected from one of Thames Valleys finest..unless the dog was driving
Still one law for them etc etc etc
yellowjack said:
Big Rod said:
Halmyre said:
It's a not uncommon tactic - a car is following a lorry so closely that the driver can't see to overtake, but knows that if the car behind pulls out to overtake then it must be safe, so pulls the stunt you've just described.
Really? People do that?It's as much to do with lack of awareness as it is with lack of skill. They follow the truck too closely, so they kill their ability to see any opportunity to pass. Then, when you see the overtake and go for it, they realise "oh, here's a chance" and blindly lurch over into the opposing lane, usually in too high a gear to make light of it, and use up all of your planned overtake zone. If you are forced to tuck back in behind the truck due to the idiot ahead, you can almost guarantee that the very next thing to happen will be that an aggressive tailgater will arrive behind you, trying to force you to close right up to the truck.
She then followed me all the way to work and shouted at me about my "dangerous" overtake. Absolute pillock.
Cliftonite said:
silverfoxcc said:
GX62HHU a Ford Estate
Negotiated 7 roundabouts without once indicating his intentions
Not what i would have expected from one of Thames Valleys finest..unless the dog was driving
Still one law for them etc etc etc
Was there any other road user that could have benefited from a signal?Negotiated 7 roundabouts without once indicating his intentions
Not what i would have expected from one of Thames Valleys finest..unless the dog was driving
Still one law for them etc etc etc
Otherwise, the driver has to mentally choose to indicate as soon as he sees somebody who may pull out on him/her if he/she does not 'give them a clue'.
All roundabouts in mild to heavy traffic would certainly flow a lot better, if people didn't have to stop and wait to see if the car that has just appeared on the apex is going to turn off, or carry on round to another junction.
Hol said:
Cliftonite said:
silverfoxcc said:
GX62HHU a Ford Estate
Negotiated 7 roundabouts without once indicating his intentions
Not what i would have expected from one of Thames Valleys finest..unless the dog was driving
Still one law for them etc etc etc
Was there any other road user that could have benefited from a signal?Negotiated 7 roundabouts without once indicating his intentions
Not what i would have expected from one of Thames Valleys finest..unless the dog was driving
Still one law for them etc etc etc
Otherwise, the driver has to mentally choose to indicate as soon as he sees somebody who may pull out on him/her if he/she does not 'give them a clue'.
All roundabouts in mild to heavy traffic would certainly flow a lot better, if people didn't have to stop and wait to see if the car that has just appeared on the apex is going to turn off, or carry on round to another junction.
Was behind him at Rackstraws Junction going up to Bracknell and the car on my inside did the merge in turn so i was 2nd in the queue behind the Cib ( Cretin in blue)
so Yes at least two other cars would have been interested, and when we joined the Crowthorne Road there were another three cars joined the convoy!!
On another forum , i have been castigated by a serving officer who claims they are all highly trained.
This one either missed the course or has the retention span of a sub normal goldfish
so Yes at least two other cars would have been interested, and when we joined the Crowthorne Road there were another three cars joined the convoy!!
On another forum , i have been castigated by a serving officer who claims they are all highly trained.
This one either missed the course or has the retention span of a sub normal goldfish
zedx19 said:
Should have just stopped in L1 at 60mph, wouldn't have causing anyone any bother nor breaking any law. Going from L1 to L4 is more dangerous then sticking in L1 imo, in this situation.
I would take that view, however Ive seen this before:50mph road, opens to 3 lanes. Lane 1 is essentially a long filter lane. Car doing 40 odd.
Driver behind, pulls into Lane 1, and very very slowly overtakes. I would consider this acceptable, it wasnt an undertake, but using all 3 lanes appropriately.
However the BIB behind disagreed and gave him a tug. What can you do?!
Krikkit said:
The idea in not making it a reflex is to improve observation - that first thought of "is there anyone to indicate for". Granted, most of the time you'll need to indicate, especially over 7 roundabouts.
Always surprised (well not really) how often an indicate would help me as a pedestrian, but how many folk don't bother.cologne2792 said:
Made a rare trip to Kent on Friday and encountered an M25 problem: the 55 mph Muppet in lane three of four.
Now I admit I was tired but it was late evening going up and coming back, the road was surprisingly quiet and all I wanted to do was sit quietly in lane one at around 60 mph and stay out of everyone's way. But four times I had to move from lane one to lane four and back again to pass people who were so oblivious to their surroundings I doubted they actually had a pulse. Mile after mile in the same lane, usually lane three, with absolutely no awareness whatsoever. What is wrong with these people ?
I went to Brands on saturday, on the 25 from M23 to M26, this a fNow I admit I was tired but it was late evening going up and coming back, the road was surprisingly quiet and all I wanted to do was sit quietly in lane one at around 60 mph and stay out of everyone's way. But four times I had to move from lane one to lane four and back again to pass people who were so oblivious to their surroundings I doubted they actually had a pulse. Mile after mile in the same lane, usually lane three, with absolutely no awareness whatsoever. What is wrong with these people ?
king million times over. I feel your pain.V8forweekends said:
Krikkit said:
The idea in not making it a reflex is to improve observation - that first thought of "is there anyone to indicate for". Granted, most of the time you'll need to indicate, especially over 7 roundabouts.
Always surprised (well not really) how often an indicate would help me as a pedestrian, but how many folk don't bother.m8rky said:
V8forweekends said:
Krikkit said:
The idea in not making it a reflex is to improve observation - that first thought of "is there anyone to indicate for". Granted, most of the time you'll need to indicate, especially over 7 roundabouts.
Always surprised (well not really) how often an indicate would help me as a pedestrian, but how many folk don't bother.ks again 
Lots of roundabouts don't have clear views in all directions. Round this way, deliberate planting and fence panels are used to try to reduce sight lines, so as to persuade people to slow down sufficient to carry out some form of observation. But circulating around the roundabout, you cannot see the road on the other side, so it makes sense to already be (correctly) signalling left to leave at the next exit BEFORE you appear from behind the shrubbery. That way, traffic approaching, or waiting at that entry will be better able to judge when/if to join the roundabout. Waiting until you can see that the mouth of the joining road has traffic in it, it would be too late for your signal to be of any discernible use to the waiting driver.
That, and it's simply a courtesy, from one person to another. And as others have mentioned, pedestrians and #bloodycyclists very much count as "road users" and therefore any sentient being who may be in a position to observe the signal will be assisted by the use of said signal.
TL:DR??? Just f
king indicate. It's not hard, and costs nothing... 
Road Captains.
Poor rant and almost certainly a carbon-copy of at least three other posts;
Pootle along at 2/3 the NSL, until I go to overtake. Then swerve across to block me before accelerating up to a reasonable speed. Excellent. Oh, you weren't finished, because now you're doing a reasonable speed I've taken the opportunity to do one as well. But, you've slowed down again so I've caught you up so you overbrake into the bend. My, someone's inadequate, eh. Tell you what, wait until I've started to turn right down the A12 slip while you go straight over to Chelmsford before giving me the finger you absolute hero.
Black S Max, EN63LOH, there is a chance that you're reading this being as you work at Ford, Dunton. If so, feel free to act like much less of a dick for the rest of your life.
Cheers, Jim
Poor rant and almost certainly a carbon-copy of at least three other posts;
Pootle along at 2/3 the NSL, until I go to overtake. Then swerve across to block me before accelerating up to a reasonable speed. Excellent. Oh, you weren't finished, because now you're doing a reasonable speed I've taken the opportunity to do one as well. But, you've slowed down again so I've caught you up so you overbrake into the bend. My, someone's inadequate, eh. Tell you what, wait until I've started to turn right down the A12 slip while you go straight over to Chelmsford before giving me the finger you absolute hero.
Black S Max, EN63LOH, there is a chance that you're reading this being as you work at Ford, Dunton. If so, feel free to act like much less of a dick for the rest of your life.
Cheers, Jim
I've noticed recently what may be the antithesis of the middle lane dweller; the magnetically drawn left no matter what (I'm guessing that title won't catch on). An example being; overtaking a heavy on a quiet stretch of motorway, with two more heavies ahead and lane 3 empty, and a single car approaching from behind. I decide to maintain position in lane 2 rather than pull back into lane 1 and immediately back into 2. The aforementioned approaching car is now upon me, but instead of using an otherwise unoccupied lane 3, he does a massively exaggerated swerve into lane 1 and attempts to overtake on the left. However, he either underestimated the proximity of the heavies in lane 1 or/and overestimated his cars acceleration,as there was no way he was going to pass in time. This left me a dilemma; do I knock the cruise off and slow down so he can make the gap?, or do I sit tight and let him do the braking? Being an ace driver (alright, maybe not ace, but above an average that seems to get lower every year) I chose option 3, and moved over into lane 3 to accommodate the non-Audi driving cock womble. Unfortunately the driver of the heavy saw this as an opportunity to indulge in a little elephant race, and pulled into lane 2 with the car almost inserted in his bum. The last thing I saw was the car swerve partly into lane 3 and then suddenly drop back never to be seen again. I can only assume he either had a sudden onset of self awareness and stopped being a nob, or he got too close and clipped the trailer in front.
Edited by johnny fotze on Wednesday 3rd September 13:59
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