One single thing that makes you think "knob" Vol 2

One single thing that makes you think "knob" Vol 2

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Horse Pop

685 posts

143 months

Monday 20th October 2014
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WD39 said:
Conundrum: I was passenger in a friends car recently.As we approached a roundabout(two lanes),in the left lane(turn left and straight accross)was a lengthy queue and the right lane (turn right)was virtually empty.He took the right lane,went right round the roundabout,correctly indicating, and back to exit left.It certainly saved some time. But,was it strategic driving or Knobish?
He didn't cut anyone up or have to push in,in fact it was a smooth piece of driving.What do you think?
Goes against the British queueing instinct, thus guaranteed to annoy people.

Edited by Horse Pop on Monday 20th October 01:11

Jewelly_Boy

205 posts

183 months

Monday 20th October 2014
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People who brake BEFORE indicating.

TRY THE OTHER WAY AROUND YOU fkING SPACE CADET!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

yellowjack

17,065 posts

165 months

Monday 20th October 2014
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^^ yes

Blown2CV

28,695 posts

202 months

Monday 20th October 2014
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Horse Pop said:
WD39 said:
Conundrum: I was passenger in a friends car recently.As we approached a roundabout(two lanes),in the left lane(turn left and straight accross)was a lengthy queue and the right lane (turn right)was virtually empty.He took the right lane,went right round the roundabout,correctly indicating, and back to exit left.It certainly saved some time. But,was it strategic driving or Knobish?
He didn't cut anyone up or have to push in,in fact it was a smooth piece of driving.What do you think?
Goes against the British queueing instinct, thus guaranteed to annoy people.

Edited by Horse Pop on Monday 20th October 01:11
well it's a bit like when 2 lanes merge into 1 and most people (wrongly, I might add) start queuing on the left lane before the merge, and someone nips down the outside and merges where you are meant to merge... except the roundabout thing, if the roundabout is big enough, removes the proximity you have to it all so it takes a more observant other person to notice your potentially immoral act. With the 'nip down the outside lane' guy, you're right there in it, and it's a head to head with the guy who has to allow you to merge.

anonymous-user

53 months

Monday 20th October 2014
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AstonZagato said:
I do that very occasionally, so I am going to say no. I think you do have to take extra care because the drivers in the lane you have just left will not expect you to do a 450deg turn.
270 degrees?


scarble

5,277 posts

156 months

Monday 20th October 2014
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Blown2CV said:
With a larger roundabout you're less likely to have people tracking you round to see what you're doing. They're just looking right to watch for a gap. With smaller ones there might only be a couple of cars on it at once so people might be expecting you to leave at a particular exit and be surprised when you don't.
I thought we were on the same page but I guess we weren't. I never doubted your logic Mr.2CV Sir.

This morning, go into roundabout and am exciting at -90 degrees ( wink ) onto NSL DC, as there's no one behind me and two slower cars in front, I immediately move to L2 to pass, then the 2nd car, white Fabia iirc, fair enough wants to pass the slower slow car in front, but doesn't indicate, doesn't check mirrors, I perfectly reasonably flash my lights to let him know I'm there, as he's just pulled out on me with about three car lengths of space and by this point a fair closing speed as I'd actually looked ahead going into the roundabout and carried some speed and also I'd appreciate if he can make it quick, he brake checks me.
Well excuse me. I don't know, maybe you thought you were in L2 first, but you weren't.
I wish I could say it made me angry or even surprised me rolleyes

masermartin

1,629 posts

176 months

Monday 20th October 2014
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OpulentBob said:
AstonZagato said:
I do that very occasionally, so I am going to say no. I think you do have to take extra care because the drivers in the lane you have just left will not expect you to do a 450deg turn.
270 degrees?
Uh oh, not this again hehe

anonymous-user

53 months

Monday 20th October 2014
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masermartin said:
OpulentBob said:
AstonZagato said:
I do that very occasionally, so I am going to say no. I think you do have to take extra care because the drivers in the lane you have just left will not expect you to do a 450deg turn.
270 degrees?
Uh oh, not this again hehe
Yeah, I remember the last time! whistle

vtecyo

2,122 posts

128 months

Monday 20th October 2014
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WD39 said:
Conundrum: I was passenger in a friends car recently.As we approached a roundabout(two lanes),in the left lane(turn left and straight accross)was a lengthy queue and the right lane (turn right)was virtually empty.He took the right lane,went right round the roundabout,correctly indicating, and back to exit left.It certainly saved some time. But,was it strategic driving or Knobish?
He didn't cut anyone up or have to push in,in fact it was a smooth piece of driving.What do you think?
I used to do that all the time on one particular roundabout going from Poole to Bournemouth when I was an ASDA delivery driver in sixth form college.

Edited by vtecyo on Monday 20th October 10:26

GarryDK

5,670 posts

157 months

Monday 20th October 2014
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tt 1 pulled out in front of me on a roundabout and decided to do it at 5 mph!


tt 2 pulled out from a right hand turn in front of me without looking


AstonZagato

12,649 posts

209 months

Monday 20th October 2014
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OpulentBob said:
AstonZagato said:
I do that very occasionally, so I am going to say no. I think you do have to take extra care because the drivers in the lane you have just left will not expect you to do a 450deg turn.
270 degrees?
Turn left = 90deg
Straight on = 180deg
Turn right = 270deg
One full circuit = 360deg
One full circuit plus a right turn = 450deg

To be fair, it is tempting to think of a one circuit as a 180deg. But it isn't.

yellowjack

17,065 posts

165 months

Monday 20th October 2014
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The driver of a '51 plate V6 Phaeton just now. I was indicating to turn right into a side turn, out of which a van was waiting to emerge. Oncoming traffic on the priority road was preventing either of us from moving.

So. Some of the oncoming traffic passes, and the next car in line is a left turning Phaeton. I completely missed his hand gesture to 'go first', and given the potential for confusion with the van waiting to turn out, I'd probably have erred on the side of caution anyway. So up go his arms in a 'WTF?' gesture, and off he roars at well over 40 mph. Straight around the corner, only to get stuck behind two buses, neither of which could get into the bus stop properly for illegally parked cars.

He's a 'knob' for his reaction to my (understandable) reluctance to break with traditional priorities at his behest. The whole "boot it down the road" thing was ridiculous. The fact that he'd been willing to cede priority to me demonstrated that he wasn't in that much of a hurry. Then the getting stuck behind the buses was pure Karma. I'd say it was two minutes at least, with oncoming traffic mounting the curb to get past the buses.

I think I may have been a tiny bit of a 'knob' too. I flashed my headlights at him (repeatedly) to gain his attention, then smiled my best 'manic' ear-to-ear grin (repeatedly), and waved (repeatedly) and gave the double thumb-up (repeatedly) until he turned left at a mini roundabout which, ironically, could only lead him back 'around the block' to where he'd come from in the first place. Fun, though wink

anonymous-user

53 months

Monday 20th October 2014
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AstonZagato said:
Turn left = 90deg
Straight on = 180deg
Turn right = 270deg
One full circuit = 360deg
One full circuit plus a right turn = 450deg

To be fair, it is tempting to think of a one circuit as a 180deg. But it isn't.
But going straight on is a zero degree turn. Turning left is 90 degrees, or turning right is 90 degrees. Turning back on yourself is 180 degrees plus another 90 is 270.

It's Pedantic Monday!

ETA you're driving through 450 degrees of the roundabout circulatory, but you're turning through 270 degrees. You're doing a 270 deg turn, but in order to do it you need to drive on 450 degrees of circular carriageway.

I've just sketched it on the board and asked an office full of highway engineers. They all say 270 degrees.

Edited by OpulentBob on Monday 20th October 13:14

Tyre Tread

10,525 posts

215 months

Monday 20th October 2014
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OpulentBob said:
AstonZagato said:
Turn left = 90deg
Straight on = 180deg
Turn right = 270deg
One full circuit = 360deg
One full circuit plus a right turn = 450deg

To be fair, it is tempting to think of a one circuit as a 180deg. But it isn't.
But going straight on is a zero degree turn. Turning left is 90 degrees, or turning right is 90 degrees. Turning back on yourself is 180 degrees plus another 90 is 270.

It's Pedantic Monday!

ETA you're driving through 450 degrees of the roundabout circulatory, but you're turning through 270 degrees. You're doing a 270 deg turn, but in order to do it you need to drive on 450 degrees of circular carriageway.

I've just sketched it on the board and asked an office full of highway engineers. They all say 270 degrees.

Edited by OpulentBob on Monday 20th October 13:14
Not this again! Pack it in or we'll end up going round in circles.

scarble

5,277 posts

156 months

Monday 20th October 2014
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Tell me about it, this is making me dizzy. Time to do a 180 and back the fcensoredk up.

pinchmeimdreamin

9,831 posts

217 months

Monday 20th October 2014
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scarble said:
Tell me about it, this is making me dizzy. Time to do a 180 and back the fcensoredk up.
But if you did a 180 and then backed up you would end up going the same way.

AW111

9,455 posts

132 months

Monday 20th October 2014
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90 degree left turn onto roundabout.
360 degree right turn all around the roundabout back to where you entered.
Another 90 degrees right to the next exit.
90 degrees left to exit.

So 90L, 450R, 90L.

Which could be construed as a net 270 R.

anonymous-user

53 months

Monday 20th October 2014
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AW111 said:
90 degree left turn onto roundabout.
360 degree right turn all around the roundabout back to where you entered.
Another 90 degrees right to the next exit.
90 degrees left to exit.

So 90L, 450R, 90L.

Which could be construed as a net 270 R.
AAAAAAARGH!!

banghead

Wish I'd never said anything now...

wink

AW111

9,455 posts

132 months

Monday 20th October 2014
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OpulentBob said:
AAAAAAARGH!!

banghead

Wish I'd never said anything now...

wink
Well since you ran into a brick wall (driving ................. banghead), you either turned too far, or not enough.

HTH

edit : spelling

Edited by AW111 on Monday 20th October 14:10

pinchmeimdreamin

9,831 posts

217 months

Monday 20th October 2014
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AW111 said:
Well since you ran into a brick wall (driving ................. banghead), you either turned too far, or not enough.

HTH

edit : spelling

Edited by AW111 on Monday 20th October 14:10
Or Did the wall turn spin
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