One single thing that makes you think "knob" Vol 2
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13 plate Z4 - yesterday evening - on the Embankment in a single lane section (probably Grosvenor Road by that point as you approach Chelsea Bridge) - decided to over-take me - he crosses the hatching in the middle of the road and races past.
I'm on a scooter so as he hits traffic again (<200m) I catch up and have a word about his crazy dangerous driving. Apparently I was at fault for not getting out of his way...
An idiot of the first degree...
I'm on a scooter so as he hits traffic again (<200m) I catch up and have a word about his crazy dangerous driving. Apparently I was at fault for not getting out of his way...
An idiot of the first degree...
Swanny87 said:
Liquid Knight said:
A couple of hours later I found out via a colleague Mr Audi gave the Police attitude so they ended up giving him three points and a hundred Pound fine for SP50 as he was doing over sixty when they played back the video of the overtake. 
It would have been a conversation if he kept his gob shut.
People that give police attitude, when they've clearly done something wrong and by doing so make the situation worse for themselves are utter throbbers in my opinion.It would have been a conversation if he kept his gob shut.
I would much prefer if enforcement or discretion happened irrespective of the person's attitude. Sick of hearing about people smugly 'passing the attitude test'. Given that it isn't proper crime or proper policing, they're just the same as a speed camera really and shouldn't let feelings/how big the driver's tits are alter the result.
Disastrous said:
I find it ridiculous that the Traffic Police decide what penalty you get based on how obsequious or not you are to them.
I very much approve of it.Although I see it as a "I will learn from a b
king" test rather than obsequious.If trafpol can reliably tell whether someone is likely to admit and learn from their mistakes and try not to do it again than that leaves everybody feeling warm and fuzzy (ha!).
Chances are that someone who legs is out their motor screaming "I DIDN'T DO NUFFINK WRONG! YOU PIGS WILL NEVER TAKE ME ALIVE!!!!" isn't going to have the humility to admit error and learn so a more harsh penalty is needed.
Disastrous said:
I find it ridiculous that the Traffic Police decide what penalty you get based on how obsequious or not you are to them.
I would much prefer if enforcement or discretion happened irrespective of the person's attitude. Sick of hearing about people smugly 'passing the attitude test'. Given that it isn't proper crime or proper policing, they're just the same as a speed camera really and shouldn't let feelings/how big the driver's tits are alter the result.
Conversely I find the discretion offered by the Police one of their best features. I've only been pulled 2 or 3 times but each time I was treated sensibly, and after they've had their (very reasonable) words I've heeded them and amended my driving as a result, which is surely the goal - preventing people from driving outside the standards required by law.I would much prefer if enforcement or discretion happened irrespective of the person's attitude. Sick of hearing about people smugly 'passing the attitude test'. Given that it isn't proper crime or proper policing, they're just the same as a speed camera really and shouldn't let feelings/how big the driver's tits are alter the result.
If you trust the police to react in a human manner then you're more inclined to listen to what they're saying. If you think you're getting a fine regardless then nothing's going to stop you bouncing it off the limiter again the second they're out of sight - long live discretion.
luckystrike said:
long live discretion.
I agree but believe it should be based on the severity of the infraction, rather than the person driving.As an example, a girl I know has been pulled several times for using her phone/speeding/running red lights. Once, she was even recording a 'selfie video' on her phone but was let off each time.
The chap she shares the office with who is very quiet got stopped doing 47 in a 40 section of DCW and was given the fine + points. He is a MUCH better driver than her, very quiet in nature and hardly the sort to mouth off at the Police.
Sadly, he now has a bad image of them as a result of his experience, particularly in light of what the girl got away with.
Before speaking to the driver, the Police ought to be able to see that recording a video on your phone is f
king idiocy and a driver daft enough to do that will learn nothing from a talking to. Conversely, they should be able to see that creeping over the limit a bit isn't dangerous per se, and if the car is being driven otherwise sensibly, a warning may be more effective.The nature of the driver really oughtn't come into it.
People who refer to their car simply as a "Coupe", "Roadster", "Touring" or whatever. Your Coupe isn't the only car ever to come in coupe form, why bother telling people what car you have if you aren't going to tell people what car you have?
What would you think if someone came on here talking about that one time they were driving along in the hatchback?
What would you think if someone came on here talking about that one time they were driving along in the hatchback?
Disastrous said:
I find it ridiculous that the Traffic Police decide what penalty you get based on how obsequious or not you are to them.
I doubt you'll say the same the next time you get caught doing something wrong, but are offered a verbal warning if you're polite and admitting your mistaken...JagXJR said:
Liquid Knight said:
Basically if my gesture was deemed inappropriate or unprovoked and caused undue stress to other road users. Sadly the law does say driver and not road user so it's open to interpretation based on the old cyclists argument...
"This is not a motor vehicle"
...I'm of a mind that it is the Road Traffic Act and as such if I'm on the road I am traffic and therefore the same rules apply to me as everyone else on the road.
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Thats refreshing, a cyclist with a responsible and reasonable attitude. Shame it cannot replicate to others who cycle!"This is not a motor vehicle"
...I'm of a mind that it is the Road Traffic Act and as such if I'm on the road I am traffic and therefore the same rules apply to me as everyone else on the road.
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scarble said:
People who refer to their car simply as a "Coupe", "Roadster", "Touring" or whatever. Your Coupe isn't the only car ever to come in coupe form, why bother telling people what car you have if you aren't going to tell people what car you have?
What would you think if someone came on here talking about that one time they were driving along in the hatchback?
I'm assuming this is pointed to me in a "kinda of, roundabout sort of thing" manner seeing as it's suddenly popped up. Take a shufties at my garage, my Coupe is a Rover 200 Coupe, the Coupe part is in the name (unless I should refer to it by it's development codename, i.e. Tomcat, something which I prefer not to do as it's just a little too nerdy for me) and differentiates it from the other wedged Rover 200 models, of which there was a three door version but didn't have Coupe in the name but could be classed as a Coupe. Rather than constantly rattle out Rover 200 Coupe, a tad long winded, I've shortened it to Coupe (do you think I managed to include enough mentions of Coupe while still maintaining some form of cohesive sentence? ;D).What would you think if someone came on here talking about that one time they were driving along in the hatchback?
Baryonyx said:
Disastrous said:
I find it ridiculous that the Traffic Police decide what penalty you get based on how obsequious or not you are to them.
I doubt you'll say the same the next time you get caught doing something wrong, but are offered a verbal warning if you're polite and admitting your mistaken...scarble said:
People who refer to their car simply as a "Coupe", "Roadster", "Touring" or whatever. Your Coupe isn't the only car ever to come in coupe form, why bother telling people what car you have if you aren't going to tell people what car you have?
What would you think if someone came on here talking about that one time they were driving along in the hatchback?
I assumed he meant he has a Hyundai. What would you think if someone came on here talking about that one time they were driving along in the hatchback?
OpulentBob said:
JagXJR said:
Liquid Knight said:
Basically if my gesture was deemed inappropriate or unprovoked and caused undue stress to other road users. Sadly the law does say driver and not road user so it's open to interpretation based on the old cyclists argument...
"This is not a motor vehicle"
...I'm of a mind that it is the Road Traffic Act and as such if I'm on the road I am traffic and therefore the same rules apply to me as everyone else on the road.
....................
Thats refreshing, a cyclist with a responsible and reasonable attitude. Shame it cannot replicate to others who cycle!"This is not a motor vehicle"
...I'm of a mind that it is the Road Traffic Act and as such if I'm on the road I am traffic and therefore the same rules apply to me as everyone else on the road.
....................
The only reason I edit any of them is so they are five hours long.
Disastrous said:
Baryonyx said:
Disastrous said:
I find it ridiculous that the Traffic Police decide what penalty you get based on how obsequious or not you are to them.
I doubt you'll say the same the next time you get caught doing something wrong, but are offered a verbal warning if you're polite and admitting your mistaken...Good job guys.
Self nomination - not securing the rear trade plate properly when road testing a car late last night.
The policemen I had to speak to were nice enough about it when they realised it was a genuine mistake and that I could rectify it immediately and not some scrote out stealing fuel etc.
The policemen I had to speak to were nice enough about it when they realised it was a genuine mistake and that I could rectify it immediately and not some scrote out stealing fuel etc.
loafer123 said:
g3org3y said:
M25 today at mid-morning (~11:00). Seems to be a free-for-all where the rules of the motorway (esp the 4 Lane sections) have been changed to "choose any lane (except 1 of course) and any speed - enjoy and don't worry about anything or anyone else".
No discernible attempt at any modicum of lane disciple or mirror usage. Simply wanting to do a speedo indicated 70 was very hard work.
I have given up worrying about the M25.No discernible attempt at any modicum of lane disciple or mirror usage. Simply wanting to do a speedo indicated 70 was very hard work.
Make steady progress, don't make sudden lane changes, don't worry about passing on the inside of people as the traffic and lane discipline makes it futile and just treat it like a US freeway.
Liquid Knight said:
Disastrous said:
Baryonyx said:
Disastrous said:
I find it ridiculous that the Traffic Police decide what penalty you get based on how obsequious or not you are to them.
I doubt you'll say the same the next time you get caught doing something wrong, but are offered a verbal warning if you're polite and admitting your mistaken...Good job guys.
If I was doing 45 in a 30 in a built up area at 3:30pm near a school then yes I would expect the appropriate penalty, I wouldn't expect to get away with it if I said please and thank you a million times and gave them a lovely bunch of flowers. No discretion can be applied here. In the same situation, when stopped, I start arguing with the police about the penalty, when I'm clearly in the wrong then I deserve a more severe penalty. This has nothing to do with discretion, the person who has been stopped giving the attitude has made the situation worse themselves.
If I get caught at 3 am doing 80 on a dry empty motorway and get pulled over I would still expect to get the appropriate penalty. Discretion can be applied here as there is little to no impact from me speeding. By adding the attitude element again then the police can now remove that discretion and book me.
In short, what I was saying is that having attitude with the police gets you nowhere. And it doesn't take much thought ^ to realise that. The key word there is thought...
Partly me, partly the other driver.
fkwit today who was going roughly the same speed as me, but decided to overtake on the motorway in a closing lane and then suddenly rejoin in front of me so suddenly it required anchoring on (massively knobbish). Flashed them my intense displeasure (knobbish) and then the male passenger gave me a cheery wave (not an apology: knobbish).
I kept pace with them until they rejoined lane 2. Luckily, having read the motorway ahead I found a lovely spot to put them in the box for a while. Blocked behind much slower traffic until I released them and carried on. They didn't follow. Juvenile but oh so satisfying.
f
kwit today who was going roughly the same speed as me, but decided to overtake on the motorway in a closing lane and then suddenly rejoin in front of me so suddenly it required anchoring on (massively knobbish). Flashed them my intense displeasure (knobbish) and then the male passenger gave me a cheery wave (not an apology: knobbish). I kept pace with them until they rejoined lane 2. Luckily, having read the motorway ahead I found a lovely spot to put them in the box for a while. Blocked behind much slower traffic until I released them and carried on. They didn't follow. Juvenile but oh so satisfying.
The total Cocksocket in a 51 plate 3 Series leaving M25'@ J24 tonight. Going up slip road, it has 2 lanes, swerving from L1 to L2 into my path realising I was there so went back to L1 & offered coffee as I passed . I noticed you didn't indicate as you came into the Cockfosters lane behind me then tailgate me down Stagg Hill. You were that close your high beam had zero effect on me except showing the dust on my glovebox lid!!
Utter utter Ct.
Utter utter C
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