Named and shamed - tax cheats

[V8mate]

Nine people/firms? Nine?

Seems too few for it even to be a single day's discoveries.

[sh1tbum]

Prince Charles is not on there

[mat777]

How the bloody gibbering fk do they get away with publishing peoples names and addresses online like thatn what with all the data protection acts????

[Hoofy]

What does defaulting mean?

[krallicious]

A hairdresser didn't pay for three months and should have paid 17k in tax? fk me, I chose the wrong career.

[Mr_B]

mat777 said:

How the bloody gibbering fk do they get away with publishing peoples names and addresses online like thatn what with all the data protection acts????

Guessing that is a registered business address and different ?

[V8mate]

krallicious said:

A hairdresser didn't pay for three months and should have paid 17k in tax? fk me, I chose the wrong career.

£17k is the penalty attached to a tax bill of £29k.

[JDRoest]

krallicious said:

A hairdresser didn't pay for three months and should have paid 17k in tax? fk me, I chose the wrong career.

No no no - read it carefully - he should have paid £29k in tax! £17k is the penalty. (Edit - Crap, beaten to it. didn't page refresh).

Hate to say it, but when I look through that list I see 9 people/companies who are struggling under the current economic climate. Not to mention the tax that HMRC is expecting is usually estimated several times more than it really is. The penalty is just the final nail in the coffin for many of these companies which just bludgeons people into giving up and walking away.

Behind everyone of these "defaulters" is a future benefits claimant.

[thepeoplespal]

Apparently in Finland everybody's tax affairs are published for all to see.

[allnighter]

So they are tax defaulters, not tax cheats, in other words, people who are honest about their tax affairs vis-avis the governments but are probably struggling to pay their tax bill, as opposed to the tax cheat whom we know nothing about.Easy targets then... nothing new HMRC.

[V8mate]

allnighter said:

So they are tax defaulters, not tax cheats, in other words, people who are honest about their tax affairs vis-avis the governments but are probably struggling to pay their tax bill, as opposed to the tax cheat whom we know nothing about.Easy targets then... nothing new HMRC.

It does use the word 'deliberate' in the title. Suggests (and I may be wrong) a determination not to pay rather than a genuine inability.

[FourWheelDrift]

I don't see any politicians on that list, for example Mr A. C. L. Blair is conspicuous by his absence.

[FourWheelDrift]

Oh hang on these are people who were supposed to pay a certain sum but didn't? Not people who used tax avoidance schemes to not pay the full amount.

So there will never be any politicians on the list.

[JDRoest]

V8mate said:

It does use the word 'deliberate' in the title. Suggests (and I may be wrong) a determination not to pay rather than a genuine inability.

Look at the periods that are listed though. It's pretty obvious that some have a year missing (possibly a bad year?) and some have quarters missing (possibly a bad quarter?).

The idea that each and every one of these people decided not to pay HMRC and buy a yacht is daft.

---and how does a hairdresser get an assessment of £29k for 1 quarter!!!???? Let alone a penalty of £17k?? Have we lost all sense of proportion? I swear my last haircut in the UK was £10 - are you really telling me that some barber in the UK cuts 2000+ heads of hair a month? So 80 per day??!

[krallicious]

V8mate said:

£17k is the penalty attached to a tax bill of £29k.

Oops. Will try to correctly read the chart next time. So he was meant to pay 29k tax for the 3 month period or is the 17k tied up in that amount and his tax would have only been 12k had he paid it in time?

[V8mate]

krallicious said:

V8mate said:

£17k is the penalty attached to a tax bill of £29k.

Oops. Will try to correctly read the chart next time. So he was meant to pay 29k tax for the 3 month period or is the 17k tied up in that amount and his tax would have only been 12k had he paid it in time?

He owed £29k which was due in the quarter shown. His penalties since have reached a further £17k (is how I'd read it).

[mondeoman]

JDRoest said:

Look at the periods that are listed though. It's pretty obvious that some have a year missing (possibly a bad year?) and some have quarters missing (possibly a bad quarter?).

The idea that each and every one of these people decided not to pay HMRC and buy a yacht is daft.

---and how does a hairdresser get an assessment of £29k for 1 quarter!!!???? Let alone a penalty of £17k?? Have we lost all sense of proportion? I swear my last haircut in the UK was £10 - are you really telling me that some barber in the UK cuts 2000+ heads of hair a month? So 80 per day??!

Ha ha - you don't know many wimmin do you?? £60 - £100 for a snip n blow job in some places, and that's about half an hours work. Do that with 6 staff doing 8 hour days, it soon adds up to quite a nice little earner if you're in the right neighbourhood.

[krallicious]

V8mate said:

He owed £29k which was due in the quarter shown. His penalties since have reached a further £17k (is how I'd read it).

I refer to my first post though. Must be a bloody busy hairdresser.

[V8mate]

krallicious said:

V8mate said:

He owed £29k which was due in the quarter shown. His penalties since have reached a further £17k (is how I'd read it).

I refer to my first post though. Must be a bloody busy hairdresser.

The tax won't refer to a quarter's trading; the sum fell due then.

[krallicious]

V8mate said:

The tax won't refer to a quarter's trading; the sum fell due then.

Thanks again.









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