Engine Mount Removal

[Mr Plow]

Has anyone successfully managed to cut out the engine mounts on an S2?

I'm about to give up trying to remove the 20 year old nuts that are holding them in (probably not 20 years old as I'm sure they have been replaced at some point, but thats what they look like)

They've soaked in Plusgas for three days and still won't budge!!

Cheers

Liam

[phillpot]

Very difficult to "attack" from nut side I'd have thought, guess you mean nuts to chassis not to engine bracket?


Is there room (with engine bracket removed) to cut or burn off rubber then grind the stud out of the metal disc that I imagine will remain ?


Easy to have these "good ideas" in the comfort and warmth of my house, maybe totally impractical when you're out there in the cold with the job in front of you

[mep12345]

Liam,

Bought another then?

You could try undoing the mounting bracket from the engine and rotating them slightly using an oil filter wrench (or a rubber equivalent - I have one called an anaconda and it is excellent) then undo the top nut. Once this one is off (easier access) you can then just wedge a spanner on the lower one and use the filter wrech to rotate the mount itself. My top ones came off OK on my engine removal but the lower one had to be done as described above.

The only other choice I think would be to cut an access hole in the footwell and then use a socxket and breaker bar on the lower nut then manufacture an access panel for the hole just cut.

HTH

Mark

[Barry S1]

No easy way Liam it took me two days to get
one side off you can cut it in half but then
it all turns with the nut, i cut through the bolt
with a hacksaw blade in the end.
good luck, your need it

[phillpot]

mep12345 said:

You could try undoing the mounting bracket from the engine and rotating them slightly using an oil filter wrench or equivalent

Want to borrow this "Bad Boy" ? Made easy work of mine

[Longers]

phillpot said:

Want to borrow this "Bad Boy" ? Made easy work of mine

Bloody Hell Mike. That looks like something from a Medieval battlefield!!

[Longers]

mep12345 said:

Liam,

Bought another then?

Nope. He got this one for free.






Only catch is he needs to give it back to me when he's finished the work

[phillpot]

Had to make do with that one, couldn't get the big one in!

[Mr Plow]

Hi All

Thanks for the comments, some useful advice. At the moment I can't get either engine mount side or chassis side undone. I think this is one of those jobs garages have avoided, the sump is rubbing on the anti rollbar so need doing before, if it hasn't already, it makes a hole in the sump.

I'll have another go tomorrow, but I think it will be a case of mounts off the engine and then either cut through the bolts via Barry's method or try holding/turning the rubber with this-

phillpot said:

Believe it or not I have one of those from my cycling days, I also have a oil filter wrench that might work.

mep12345 said:

Bought another then?

Hi Mark. good to hear from you. No not bought another one YET, this is for a friend.

[phillpot]

Not trying to teach anyone how to suck eggs but if struggling for leverage with a spanner but can't get a socket on try this,two spanners "locked" together. Enough force to snap off up to M10 quite easily and shouldn't damage (good quality) spanners.



Of course if nut rounded or bolt spinning you still have a problem.

[Barry S1]

i had to cut a spaner down to get it on the bottom nut then did that ,did it last winter my hands have nearly healed up now ,but i still have the bad dreams

Edited by Barry S1 on Sunday 24th February 21:05

[glenrobbo]

Hi Liam,
It's a bit of a br isn't it?
I found access is made possible ( just ) with the front wheels removed ( that's essential ), and using a 17mm flex-head ratchet ring spanner and a chain wrench similar to Phillpot's. Or plumber's swan neck pipe grips.
Also Barry's hacksaw blade method to saw through the stud once you have enough clearance to get it in saves a lot of struggling.
I did mine at the same time as I was replacing the exhaust manifolds so I had a little extra room to play in.

There are a few previous threads on here with good advice.

I think Longers' method is by far the best

Edited by glenrobbo on Sunday 24th February 22:23

[glenrobbo]

[phillpot]

glenrobbo said:

Also Barry's hacksaw blade method saves a lot of struggling.

one of these saves even more

[glenrobbo]

phillpot said:

glenrobbo said:

Also Barry's hacksaw blade method saves a lot of struggling.

one of these saves even more

Yes Mike, if you can get it in there!

[Mr Plow]

phillpot said:

one of these saves even more

I'll be using one of those tomorrow

[Barry S1]

I used one to cut it in half but it made things harder
as it was harder to hold, the bottom nut is a lock
nut so will be tight to the last bit,
(but it is more fun)

[Barkychoc]

If you can get one of these it may cut through the rubber.

http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gigli_saw

Just don't think too hard about its proper use - more or less what is used to amputate bits off you if you are stuck in accident wreckage.

[glenrobbo]

Liam,
Don't cut the rubber, it makes the job harder.

You need to undo the bottom nut enough to gain room to saw off the stud.
Stick with it, and try inventing swear words nobody has ever heard before.

This job can be very therapeutic if you have masochistic tendencies.

Good luck
Glen

[glenrobbo]

Any progress Liam?



Been there. Feel for ya!