Paedophile hijacking videos...

[MadMullah]

its an increasing phenomenon especially on youtube etc

for those that dont know - person 1 poses as a 15 yr old girl, gets the other person to meet up for sex and then turn up at the meeting point with a camera in tow and confront the person...

There's a local article where a teacher from my town has been caught doing so etc shown the evidence and subsequently has left his position at the school.

what would be the legal position on such people? would the law be able to press any charges assuming its all been recorded and saved?

[Caulkhead]

MadMullah said:

its an increasing phenomenon especially on youtube etc

for those that dont know - person 1 poses as a 15 yr old girl, gets the other person to meet up for sex and then turn up at the meeting point with a camera in tow and confront the person...

There's a local article where a teacher from my town has been caught doing so etc shown the evidence and subsequently has left his position at the school.

what would be the legal position on such people? would the law be able to press any charges assuming its all been recorded and saved?

Post the footage when they caught you and we'll let you know. . . . . .

[mrmr96]

Sounds like a great idea to me, if it means that paedo's will maybe think twice before trying to groom kids?

[TheEnd]

I think it's all the same guy (Brummie accent in the other vids too), obviously a fan of this-

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nTN_UO6DpXU

What he doesn't do however is get the police involved. I have the feeling it is done for fame, rather than protecting anyone.

[davepoth]

mrmr96 said:

Sounds like a great idea to me, if it means that paedo's will maybe think twice before trying to groom kids?

This isn't paedos though - it's ephebophiles that they're after if it's 15 year olds. A big difference, and getting towards being somewhat legally shaky for a prosecution.

[lewisf182]

Have they not just copied the americantv show to catch a predator?

[mrmr96]

davepoth said:

mrmr96 said:

Sounds like a great idea to me, if it means that paedo's will maybe think twice before trying to groom kids?

This isn't paedos though - it's ephebophiles that they're after if it's 15 year olds. A big difference, and getting towards being somewhat legally shaky for a prosecution.

Ok, in this particular case the decoy is pretending to be 15 y/o, but my point still stands. Anyone who thinks there's a chance that their "encounter" might result in a public outing is less likely to make these kinds of innapropriate contacts.

[B17NNS]

Apparently they've isolated the cause of paedophilia.







Sexy kids.

[Perd Hapley]

Holy crap he talked for ages under the impression that the guy was a police officer.

Oh well if nothing else I guess we found out why Chris Hansen never ambushed his targets while surrounded by idling diesel engines.

[Art0ir]

[Justices]

Missing one key thing which they apply so well in To Catch a Predator; a taser

[AJS-]

Mixed feelings on it really.

On one hand it's brilliant - catch a sex pest without a single child ever getting harmed.

On the other hand, it really is entrapment, and it's putting temptation in their way. Are they a real, genuine threat to anyone, or just an internet wker who has been goaded into something incredibly stupid by an adult pretending to be a child on the internet.

[HundredthIdiot]

Inducing criminal behaviour is not a moral act.

[AJS-]

Am I right to think this sort of entrapment wouldn't lead to a safe prosecution in the UK anyway?

[mrmr96]

AJS- said:

Am I right to think this sort of entrapment wouldn't lead to a safe prosecution in the UK anyway?

Prosecution for what?

Besides which, I thought that the police use (or used to use) undercover hookers to catch curb crawlers when they propositioned them. (That might be from a movie not real life though.)

[rhinochopig]

mrmr96 said:

AJS- said:

Am I right to think this sort of entrapment wouldn't lead to a safe prosecution in the UK anyway?

Prosecution for what?

Besides which, I thought that the police use (or used to use) undercover hookers to catch curb crawlers when they propositioned them. (That might be from a movie not real life though.)

They've stopped doing since the recent cuts as the undercover officers have started to realise they can make more money doing that than in the police.

[z4chris99]

this all sounds a bit fked up

[SpeckledJim]

HundredthIdiot said:

Inducing criminal behaviour is not a moral act.

But is this quite that? Isn't it inducing the criminally-minded to identify themselves? Perhaps not prosecutable, but useful information.

I don't know, just asking.

[AJS-]

mrmr96 said:

AJS- said:

Am I right to think this sort of entrapment wouldn't lead to a safe prosecution in the UK anyway?

Prosecution for what?

Besides which, I thought that the police use (or used to use) undercover hookers to catch curb crawlers when they propositioned them. (That might be from a movie not real life though.)

I presume there's some such offence as grooming a minor, soliciting sex with a minor? The US police seemed very interested in the paedos caught out in the video above.

I always thought the undercover prostitutes busting people for curb crawling was an urban myth?

[HundredthIdiot]

SpeckledJim said:

But is this quite that? Isn't it inducing the criminally-minded to identify themselves? Perhaps not prosecutable, but useful information.

I don't know, just asking.

"person 1 poses as a 15 yr old girl, gets the other person to meet up for sex"

That's inducing a criminal act. It's similar to randomly offering bribes to police officers or civil servants. Sure, you might "catch" a few, but those people may have lived their whole lives without ever committing an offence.

It's just wrong.

Also, what do you mean "useful information"? Useful for what? Are you proposing to put these people on a sex offenders register?