Climate change - the POLITICAL debate. Vol 2

Climate change - the POLITICAL debate. Vol 2

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Andy Zarse

10,868 posts

246 months

Monday 18th August 2014
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turbobloke said:
Green Energy Policy In Germany Beginning To Strangle The Economy

Chancellor Angela Merkel’s abrupt exit from nuclear energy after the Fukushima disaster in Japan and aggressive push into renewables has unnerved German industry. A recent overhaul of the country’s complex renewable energy law has done little to alleviate uncertainty over future policy or assuage fears about German energy competitiveness. “Energy intensive industries in particular have lost confidence in the future of Germany as a business location,” said Thomas Mayer, a former chief economist at Deutsche Bank.
Reuters, 16 August 2014


German Greens Frothing At The Gills

The Green Party has criticised Angela Merkel, the German Chancellor, for cancelling her attendance at the UN Climate Summit on 23 September in New York and accused her of giving preference to lobby interests. "Instead of fighting for global climate protection on the international stage, she rather goes to speak to the lobby group of German industry which is not known to be a haven of climate change activism," said the party's parliamentary deputy Oliver Krischer.
Die Welt, 15 August 2014
Sie bitte kann nicht alle menschen die ganze zeit. Or something.

Einion Yrth

19,575 posts

243 months

Monday 18th August 2014
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Andy Zarse said:
Sie bitte kann nicht alle menschen die ganze zeit. Or something.
Could probably use a main verb. Might I suggest täuschen?

Andy Zarse

10,868 posts

246 months

Monday 18th August 2014
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Einion Yrth said:
Andy Zarse said:
Sie bitte kann nicht alle menschen die ganze zeit. Or something.
Could probably use a main verb. Might I suggest täuschen?
I'll be ruled by you! I'm better at Dutch, though that's not saying much...

HD Adam

5,143 posts

183 months

Monday 18th August 2014
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It's all going splendidly, isn't it?

The Daily Express said:
SHOCK WEATHER FORECAST: Hottest August in 300 YEARS on way as jet stream BOILS Britain
BRITAIN will roast in the hottest August EVER with temperatures set to hit an unbearable 100F within weeks.
The average temperature so far this month is 61.3F (16.3C), 2.3F (1.2C) above the long-term average according to the Met Office.
http://www.express.co.uk/news/nature/493781/SHOCK-WEATHER-FORECAST-Hottest-August-in-300-YEARS-on-way-as-jet-stream-BOILS-Britain


ERMAGEEEEEERRRRDDD!!!!! Please let me pay some more tax to combat this.

Metro said:
Coldest August in 100 years is a wet blanket for Bank Holiday weekend plans.
The Met Office expects temperatures to be well below average for the month, saying it is not expected to rise above 9C (48.2F) in parts of the North during the day while the low pressure system persists.
The last time it was this cold in August was in 1919, when temperatures did not rise above 9C for four days in the North.
http://metro.co.uk/2014/08/18/coldest-august-in-100-years-is-a-wet-blanket-for-bank-holiday-weekend-plans-4837218/

Phew, thank fk for that.

Thought my taxes might have been going to waste but looks like they did some good after all rolleyes

Blib

43,793 posts

196 months

Monday 18th August 2014
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TB-possibly said:
Buy whatsit and the other thing

turbobloke

103,742 posts

259 months

Monday 18th August 2014
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Yes them and those.

LongQ

13,864 posts

232 months

Monday 18th August 2014
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HD Adam said:
http://metro.co.uk/2014/08/18/coldest-august-in-10...

Phew, thank fk for that.

Thought my taxes might have been going to waste but looks like they did some good after all rolleyes
The 4 of the top 5 "Most Read"links on the page as I just saw them make for some interesting comparisons.

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Most Read Stories in Nature

1
Summer 'knocked on the head' as Britons face wet and miserable Bank Holiday weekend

2
SHOCK WEATHER FORECAST: Hottest August in 300 YEARS on way as jet stream BOILS Britain

3
Arctic winds and torrential rain bring summer to a soggy end

4
Which bird should Britain take under its wing?

5
Summer over? Week-long autumn chill to hit Britain as Arctic blast brings SLEET

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Based on the content of number 2 Mr. Corbyn has to hope for something rather dramatic in the next few days if the attributions have been reported accurately.

mybrainhurts

90,809 posts

254 months

Monday 18th August 2014
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Did I hear the Beeb weather forecast for tonight (18/19 August 2014) include ground frost?

Yes, I did.

Blib

43,793 posts

196 months

Monday 18th August 2014
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mybrainhurts said:
Did I hear the Beeb weather forecast for tonight (18/19 August 2014) include ground frost?

Yes, I did.
That's 'Climate Chaos', that is, MBH. yes

turbobloke

103,742 posts

259 months

Tuesday 19th August 2014
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Blib said:
mybrainhurts said:
Did I hear the Beeb weather forecast for tonight (18/19 August 2014) include ground frost?

Yes, I did.
That's 'Climate Chaos', that is, MBH. yes
It's all part of the hottest August since whenever.

Feel the warming, folks.

Otispunkmeyer

12,557 posts

154 months

Tuesday 19th August 2014
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turbobloke said:
Green Energy Policy In Germany Beginning To Strangle The Economy

Chancellor Angela Merkel’s abrupt exit from nuclear energy after the Fukushima disaster in Japan and aggressive push into renewables has unnerved German industry. A recent overhaul of the country’s complex renewable energy law has done little to alleviate uncertainty over future policy or assuage fears about German energy competitiveness. “Energy intensive industries in particular have lost confidence in the future of Germany as a business location,” said Thomas Mayer, a former chief economist at Deutsche Bank.
Reuters, 16 August 2014


German Greens Frothing At The Gills

The Green Party has criticised Angela Merkel, the German Chancellor, for cancelling her attendance at the UN Climate Summit on 23 September in New York and accused her of giving preference to lobby interests. "Instead of fighting for global climate protection on the international stage, she rather goes to speak to the lobby group of German industry which is not known to be a haven of climate change activism," said the party's parliamentary deputy Oliver Krischer.
Die Welt, 15 August 2014
I guess they see no irony with the lobby group preference line?

LongQ

13,864 posts

232 months

Tuesday 19th August 2014
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Otispunkmeyer said:
I guess they see no irony with the lobby group preference line?
Is irony a recognised form of expression in Germany?

motco

15,919 posts

245 months

Tuesday 19th August 2014
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LongQ said:
Otispunkmeyer said:
I guess they see no irony with the lobby group preference line?
Is irony a recognised form of expression in Germany?
But of course! Have you never seen an Irony Cross?


getmecoat

turbobloke

103,742 posts

259 months

Tuesday 19th August 2014
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Hundred-Year Period Of Increased Solar Activity Coming To An End

At the moment, the space climate is undergoing an extremely interesting phase. Now a 100-year period of heightened solar activity is coming to an end.
Juha Merimaa, Helsinki Times, 18 August 2014


Solar Cycles Linked To Global Warming Pause Says New Paper IPCC Gurus Tried to Quash

Long-Term natural cycles linked to the sun could explain the pause in global average surface temperatures and offer a better guide for coastal planners to predict sea level rises, storm surges and natural disasters. Publication of the findings in Ocean and Coastal Management follows a decade-long struggle for the lead author, Australian scientist Robert Baker from the University of New England, whose work has challenged the orthodox ­climate science view that carbon dioxide is the dominant factor in climate change. His latest paper with his PhD student faced a ­series of objections from scientists close to the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change but was published after an 11-member peer review panel voted 8-3 to publish.
Graham Lloyd, The Australian, 16 August 2014

Einion Yrth

19,575 posts

243 months

Tuesday 19th August 2014
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Do we know who the 3 were?

turbobloke

103,742 posts

259 months

Tuesday 19th August 2014
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Einion Yrth said:
Do we know who the 3 were?
At the moment I'm not aware but others may be.

Also....decade long struggle, jeez!

turbobloke

103,742 posts

259 months

Tuesday 19th August 2014
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More on solar which got missed a few days ago, unless Guam posted it already in which case it's another beer owed.

sonar

http://www.reportingclimatescience.com/news-storie...

Link said:
The implications of this result are controversial as they appear to fly in the face of evidence presented by the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change (IPCC) and accepted by many climate scientists that increases in atmospheric carbon dioxide (CO2) have been the main factor driving up global temperatures in the industrial age and that the sun has played a minor role.
NSS

As to what constitutes evidence, say n'more squire.

ellroy

7,005 posts

224 months

Tuesday 19th August 2014
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Who'd a thunk it?

The only source of energy in the solar system could be having an effect on our climate.

I''m truly shocked, surely the green lobby and it's scientists would have thought of this, are there fewer grants for cosmologists?

The Don of Croy

5,976 posts

158 months

Wednesday 20th August 2014
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If, and it's a fairly over-fed and under-exercised if, the science is slowly being 'corrected', and thus grants for greenwash presumably diminish as the political climate changes (could be decades?), where will be the next bonanza for research chappies?

Global cooling? Influenza pandemic? Religious fundamentalism? Cash book accounting?

All that state funded grantola has to find a home somewhere...


Einion Yrth

19,575 posts

243 months

Wednesday 20th August 2014
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The Don of Croy said:
If, and it's a fairly over-fed and under-exercised if, the science is slowly being 'corrected', and thus grants for greenwash presumably diminish as the political climate changes (could be decades?), where will be the next bonanza for research chappies?

Global cooling? Influenza pandemic? Religious fundamentalism? Cash book accounting?

All that state funded grantola has to find a home somewhere...
... and you'd like to be in on the ground floor?


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