Climate change - the POLITICAL debate. Vol 2
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turbobloke said:
Reducing Dependence On Russian Gas Pushes Germany To Coal
Germany will continue to need coal-fired power plants, its energy regulator said, warning that Europe's biggest economy should not rely solely on renewables or risk increasing exposure to Russian gas as it shuts down nuclear plants. "Those who call for an end of coal power generation don't have much interest in a reliable energy policy" Jochen Homann, president of the Federal Network Agency, or BnetzA, told an energy industry conference Wednesday. "We will close further nuclear plants; these capacities need to be replaced" he said, adding that coal power was vital to achieve this.
Reuters, 27 August 2014
This is so much bsGermany will continue to need coal-fired power plants, its energy regulator said, warning that Europe's biggest economy should not rely solely on renewables or risk increasing exposure to Russian gas as it shuts down nuclear plants. "Those who call for an end of coal power generation don't have much interest in a reliable energy policy" Jochen Homann, president of the Federal Network Agency, or BnetzA, told an energy industry conference Wednesday. "We will close further nuclear plants; these capacities need to be replaced" he said, adding that coal power was vital to achieve this.
Reuters, 27 August 2014
t, the German government gave their regional governments a directive to go out and start building coal fired power plants almost on the same day that they decided to close down the nuclear plants. I know this for a fact because I know all of the senior leadership of Siemens, GE and Alstom in Germany and it is one of the key reasons that GE set up shop in Frankfurt in 2011. This is just a cover story. Guess whose constituency most of the coal will come from.Douglas Carswell MP defecting to UKIP should be interesting.............
Carswell is sceptical of anthropogenic global warming, believing current climate change to be driven by non-human factors. He came to this position after reading Ian Plimer's Heaven and Earth.[26][27
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Douglas_Carswell#Poli...
Carswell is sceptical of anthropogenic global warming, believing current climate change to be driven by non-human factors. He came to this position after reading Ian Plimer's Heaven and Earth.[26][27
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Douglas_Carswell#Poli...
Mr GrimNasty said:
wc98 said:
dandarez said:
Apparently last night was the coldest August night on record in N. Ireland (Katesbridge) -1.9C
Beeb now saying this could be coldest August on record.
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it was -2 in aviemore at half 5 in the morning 2 days ago according to a mate .Beeb now saying this could be coldest August on record.
Leonardo di ser Piero da Vinci
'was' an Italian Renaissance polymath: painter, sculptor, architect, musician, mathematician, engineer, inventor, anatomist, geologist, cartographer, botanist, and writer.
Leonardo DiCaprio
'is' a ......................
fill in the missing word.
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UEA pulling wool over eyes again? Surely shome mishtake...?
Ah, no, thank goodness...it's just incompetence...
UEA pulling wool over eyes again? Surely shome mishtake...?
Ah, no, thank goodness...it's just incompetence...
The Trouble With The Obama NonBinding UN Climate Plan Is That It Has Already Failed
The Obama administration is signalling that there will be not be a new climate treaty. According to a report in Wednesday’s New York Times, the path to a treaty has come to an end, 14 months before the Paris talks scheduled for next year. Instead, the best deal on offer is a non-binding accord. There is a big problem with this. It has already been tried, and it failed.
Rupert Darwall, National Review Online, 29 August 2014
President Obama’s election-year plan to win a new international climate change accord is making vulnerable Democrats nervous. The administration is in talks at the United Nations about a deal that would seek to reduce global greenhouse gas emissions by “naming and shaming” governments that fail to take significant action. One Democratic strategist said the proposal would put swing-state candidates who are critical to the party keeping its Senate majority “in front of the firing squad.” “You're ... making it more difficult for them to win and certainty putting them in a position to lose,” the strategist said.
Timothy Cama, The Hill, 27 August 2014
A vulnerable House Democrat is slamming President Obama's reported effort to launch an international summit to address climate change without congressional input. Rep. Nick Rahall (D-W.Va.) says Obama's plans to get a "politically binding" international climate agreement endorsed by the United Nations next year is "fruitless" for a president whose popularity is lagging even at home. "It is fruitless for this Administration — or any Administration — to negotiate agreements with the rest of the world when it cannot even muster the support of the American people," Rahall said Wednesday in a statement.
Mike Lillis, The Hill, 27 August 2014
The Obama administration is signalling that there will be not be a new climate treaty. According to a report in Wednesday’s New York Times, the path to a treaty has come to an end, 14 months before the Paris talks scheduled for next year. Instead, the best deal on offer is a non-binding accord. There is a big problem with this. It has already been tried, and it failed.
Rupert Darwall, National Review Online, 29 August 2014
President Obama’s election-year plan to win a new international climate change accord is making vulnerable Democrats nervous. The administration is in talks at the United Nations about a deal that would seek to reduce global greenhouse gas emissions by “naming and shaming” governments that fail to take significant action. One Democratic strategist said the proposal would put swing-state candidates who are critical to the party keeping its Senate majority “in front of the firing squad.” “You're ... making it more difficult for them to win and certainty putting them in a position to lose,” the strategist said.
Timothy Cama, The Hill, 27 August 2014
A vulnerable House Democrat is slamming President Obama's reported effort to launch an international summit to address climate change without congressional input. Rep. Nick Rahall (D-W.Va.) says Obama's plans to get a "politically binding" international climate agreement endorsed by the United Nations next year is "fruitless" for a president whose popularity is lagging even at home. "It is fruitless for this Administration — or any Administration — to negotiate agreements with the rest of the world when it cannot even muster the support of the American people," Rahall said Wednesday in a statement.
Mike Lillis, The Hill, 27 August 2014
mybrainhurts said:
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UEA pulling wool over eyes again? Surely shome mishtake...?
Ah, no, thank goodness...it's just incompetence...
UEA pulling wool over eyes again? Surely shome mishtake...?
Ah, no, thank goodness...it's just incompetence...
That graph wasn't from model PREdictions though was it! They've gone back and 'tweaked' the outputs retrospectively to nicely span the observations!
And it doesn't show a causal link. On the most simplistic level of alternative possibilities:- you could get exactly the same result if you were missing one vital 'natural forcing' from the models, and programming in a false assumption for CO2.
Edited by Mr GrimNasty on Friday 29th August 16:24
Myth of arctic meltdown: Stunning satellite images show summer ice cap is thicker and covers 1.7million square kilometres MORE than 2 years ago...despite Al Gore's prediction it would be ICE-FREE by now
Seven years after former US Vice-President Al Gore's warning, Arctic ice cap has expanded for second year in row
An area twice the size of Alaska - America's biggest state - was open water two years ago and is now covered in ice
These satellite images taken from University of Illinois's Cryosphere project show ice has become more concentrated
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More on the recent BBC programme criticising scientific research. Worth a bookmark here.
More on the recent BBC programme criticising scientific research. Worth a bookmark here.
mybrainhurts said:
http://bishophill.squarespace.com/blog/2014/8/28/b...
More on the recent BBC programme criticising scientific research. Worth a bookmark here.
Not related to AGW but the things that appear in papers that make it past peer review.More on the recent BBC programme criticising scientific research. Worth a bookmark here.
Peer Review and Golden Chopsticks - Sixty Symbols: http://youtu.be/wLlA1w4OZWQ
Thought it was quite funny but also quite sad.
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