Badge pics! Who have you got?

Badge pics! Who have you got?

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ecain63

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10,588 posts

175 months

Friday 22nd March 2013
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Ive just been reminded about a topic i thought id start. Over in the US this is a question that has been asked and trawled over and over, but seems to be paid little attention over here.

Who built your engine and have you looked him up? Pics please::


Here is mine from my 2010 PP+ Saloon. Ive read a little about him. Mainly an SLS and PP+ engine builder but has vast experience across the AMG range. He did knock out a couple of engines with porous heads in 2008 but i think that there was a bad batch across the board at that time, as was documented on PH too. I did see his name on Topgear when they tested the SLS Roadster. He was responsible for the little lump in that particular monster!!


Eddie

Ari

19,346 posts

215 months

Friday 22nd March 2013
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That's really cool! biggrin

vescaegg

25,529 posts

167 months

Friday 22nd March 2013
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yes so geeky but so awesome

ghibbett

1,900 posts

185 months

Saturday 23rd March 2013
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I'm not even sure of the spelling of the chap who put together my engine? G (or T) Molobby?


ecain63

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10,588 posts

175 months

Saturday 23rd March 2013
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ecain63ghibbett]I'm not even sure of the spelling of the chap who put together my engine? G (or T) Molobby?


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You should google him. Always info on the net about these guys.

HammyHamster

393 posts

172 months

Saturday 23rd March 2013
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Hey ghibbett! Snap smile



The bloke's name is Tobias Michalsky. I hope he takes more care building his engines than his awful handwriting! Although I prefer to think he's a bit of a maverick who doesn't follow the rules and likes to give his engines a few more HP than he should smile

ghibbett

1,900 posts

185 months

Saturday 23rd March 2013
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Hey cool!! smile

As for 'extra' BHP, I put mine on a RR the weekend before last. With a mere 2700 miles it showed a healthy 455bhp (just pipped a 20k miler that was also there). Of course, once remapped it showed rather more... winkevil

Slarty Bartfast

251 posts

210 months

Monday 25th March 2013
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Philipp Kirches?

Egbert Nobacon

2,835 posts

243 months

Monday 25th March 2013
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Mines built by Erol - his surname looks iffy to me !


ecain63

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10,588 posts

175 months

Monday 25th March 2013
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Egbert Nobacon said:
Mines built by Erol - his surname looks iffy to me !

Doesnt look like he works there anymore! lol He's not on the AMG site.

ecain63

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Monday 25th March 2013
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Slarty Bartfast said:
Philipp Kirches?
Yup, he's still employed at AMG.

ecain63

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Monday 25th March 2013
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ghibbett said:
I'm not even sure of the spelling of the chap who put together my engine? G (or T) Molobby?

His name is Tobias Michalsky and he still works at AMG.

kryten22uk

2,344 posts

231 months

Monday 25th March 2013
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What do these guys actually do to deserve their name on the block? Surely they're factory production line employees just like any other merc? Its not like they hand-whittle an engine out of an aluminium block.

ghibbett

1,900 posts

185 months

Monday 25th March 2013
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kryten22uk said:
What do these guys actually do to deserve their name on the block? Surely they're factory production line employees just like any other merc? Its not like they hand-whittle an engine out of an aluminium block.
Agreed.

For reference, when you purchase an Aston Martin you get a 'Hand Build in the UK' badge with a person's signature etched into it. That person is the final inspection technician i.e. the person who does the final checks before the car is 'sold' (sold as in sold from the factory, i.e. being cleared to ship). There are a small number of final inspection plate variants, which are then fitted depending on which technicians are working which shift.

Now I've not been to the AMG engine build facility, however from a manufacturing efficiency standpoint, it would be very poor to utilise one man for each engine, rather than passing the engine down a production line.

ecain63

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10,588 posts

175 months

Monday 25th March 2013
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kryten22uk said:
What do these guys actually do to deserve their name on the block? Surely they're factory production line employees just like any other merc? Its not like they hand-whittle an engine out of an aluminium block.
Responsibility (returns and faults) for each engine he builds, and marketing. They dont make the engine from scratch obviously but the title 'engine builder' only indicates that they build the engine. One man, one engine! They hand build the engine using the parts provided and test the pieces as they go. Computer monitored tools and high tech gadgetry is heavily relied on but with such fine tolerances a man cannot be expected to knock out 3 of these lumps a day only using an eye and an ear as a guide. The organic part of the tool kit is only as good as the sleep he had the previous night.

If you want 'hand built' then you need much deeper pockets these days, but these AMG lumps are genuinely only built by one man, not on a production line.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LUlw6Z2p2Tk

Edited by ecain63 on Monday 25th March 20:10

DanX5

436 posts

183 months

Monday 25th March 2013
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Matthias Wollner built mine, still listed as a master mechanic on AMG lounge


MadeInEngland

290 posts

233 months

Tuesday 26th March 2013
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I have been to the AMG factory and each engine is hand built by one person - the chap on the badge. They follow it through from start to finish and make two a day on average. It's very impressive. Every component is marked and scanned before assembly so they know exactly whats in each engine and where it came from etc.

Every so many engines, one is pulled out and tested almost to destruction. This engine is then used in their own cars and not sold to customers.

nickwilcock

1,522 posts

247 months

Wednesday 27th March 2013
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Can't really make out the squigglature, I'm afraid.

ecain63

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10,588 posts

175 months

Wednesday 27th March 2013
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nickwilcock said:


Can't really make out the squigglature, I'm afraid.
Going by the signature it looks like he's no longer at AMG. As for his actual name, im not sure!

Cyclone1

2,600 posts

246 months

Wednesday 27th March 2013
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ecain63 said:
Egbert Nobacon said:
Mines built by Erol - his surname looks iffy to me !

Doesnt look like he works there anymore! lol He's not on the AMG site.
Erol Cenk built quite a few AMG engines, he is still with Mercedes but was promoted to Chief Mechanic.....

He built my cars Engine...

Jules