Archbishop Warns Against 'Hero Worship'...What About Jesus?

[im]

Archbish doesn't think hero worship of our current leaders can lead to change...only worship of fairies and deities will do apparently

So no 'hero worshipping' right! Oh, unless it's of some middle-eastern, 2 millenia old, bearded chippy in sandals.

http://news.sky.com/story/1072070/archbishop-welby...

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The Most Rev Justin Welby warned against 'vain human optimism' in change as it would lead to cynicism, and only joyfulness through faith in God would lead to 'radical expectation in the future'.

Taking on the issues of the present he said that a sense that hero leaders could bring about improvement showed people had failed to learn the lessons of the Easter story.

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Er.... 21st Century calling the Bish....

[Otispunkmeyer]

Who would want to worship our greasy little weasels?

[Pesty]

There is some bloke in Rome who they are quite fond of too.

[SpeckledJim]

You can't encourage faith. Faith either 'is' or 'isn't'.

Anyone who hears someone, however authoritative, say 'have faith' who then decides to have faith, is going to miss the mark.

You can't consciously opt-in for a belief. It just happens, or just doesn't.

[colonel c]

im said:

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Er.... 21st Century calling the Bish....

He appears to be a fairly grounded and realistic guy to me.

[im]

colonel c said:

im said:

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Er.... 21st Century calling the Bish....

He appears to be a fairly grounded and realistic guy to me.

...who happens to preach miracles, magic and mysticism for a (fairly good) living.

[Eric Mc]

He's quite right though, isn't he.

[TheHeretic]

Eric Mc said:

He's quite right though, isn't he.

No, he isn't. Society can change, and improve without God.

"The Archbishop of Canterbury has launched an attack on society's belief that things can improve through change without God, in his first Easter message.

The Most Rev Justin Welby warned against 'vain human optimism' in change as it would lead to cynicism, and only joyfulness through faith in God would lead to 'radical expectation in the future'."

I haven't actually read his full 'sermon' so no idea if the article is accurate as to what he actually said.

[colonel c]

im said:

colonel c said:

im said:

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Er.... 21st Century calling the Bish....

He appears to be a fairly grounded and realistic guy to me.

...who happens to preach miracles, magic and mysticism for a (fairly good) living.

The guy gave up a very good living to follow his believes, faith, calling, call it what you will. Criticism of the previous Archbishop for being leftist and out of touch I can understand. Criticising this one for having a faith strikes me as being absurd.

[Eric Mc]

TheHeretic said:

Eric Mc said:

He's quite right though, isn't he.

No, he isn't. Society can change, and improve without God.

"The Archbishop of Canterbury has launched an attack on society's belief that things can improve through change without God, in his first Easter message.

The Most Rev Justin Welby warned against 'vain human optimism' in change as it would lead to cynicism, and only joyfulness through faith in God would lead to 'radical expectation in the future'."

I haven't actually read his full 'sermon' so no idea if the article is accurate as to what he actually said.

Yes he is - so there.

[markh1973]

Pesty said:

There is some bloke in Rome who they are quite fond of too.

Who is "they" in your statement?

[im]

Eric Mc said:

He's quite right though, isn't he.

Yes...yes of course he is.

Lets abandon reason, logic, science and the power of the human mind and place our future in the hands of some non-existant fairy tale creature because thats exactly what has taken us from the caves to the moon thus far....

[TheHeretic]

markh1973 said:

Who is "they" in your statement?

Why not just say 'the CoE doesn't have a pope' rather than play games?

[MX7]

He's my hero.

[TheHeretic]

I love Heroes. They are far better than Celebrations or Quality Street.

[MX7]

My favourite chocolate.

[Pesty]

TheHeretic said:

markh1973 said:

Who is "they" in your statement?

Why not just say 'the CoE doesn't have a pope' rather than play games?

I see. Ok

Some other deluded sky fairy believers hero worship a bloke in Rome.

Didn't know which cult this bish belonged to.

[Eric Mc]

im said:

Eric Mc said:

He's quite right though, isn't he.

Yes...yes of course he is.

Lets abandon reason, logic, science and the power of the human mind and place our future in the hands of some non-existant fairy tale creature because thats exactly what has taken us from the caves to the moon thus far....

What you say may be truer than you can possibly imagine.

[Dixie68]

Pesty said:

TheHeretic said:

markh1973 said:

Who is "they" in your statement?

Why not just say 'the CoE doesn't have a pope' rather than play games?

I see. Ok

Some other deluded sky fairy believers hero worship a bloke in Rome.

Didn't know which cult this bish belonged to.

Not surprising, it's all the same bks just with different hats

[TheHeretic]

Eric Mc said:

What you say may be truer than you can possibly imagine.

Or dafter than you could possibly imagine.