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Not sure if this is the right place for this question given that most people seem to play online but here goes. After some recommendations for a poker set. Tend to play poker with my mates every few months. Tired of using the usual cheap sets. Looking at spending around £50 so not a huge budget. Had a look on Amazon and there are a plethora of 11.5g chip sets to choose from. Not sure which one to go for. Any suggestions?
giblet said:
Not sure if this is the right place for this question given that most people seem to play online but here goes. After some recommendations for a poker set. Tend to play poker with my mates every few months. Tired of using the usual cheap sets. Looking at spending around £50 so not a huge budget. Had a look on Amazon and there are a plethora of 11.5g chip sets to choose from. Not sure which one to go for. Any suggestions?
I'd keep an eye on ebay. Managed to pick up 1000 chips up for 35 quid (in a flight case), various values & they are solid enough, not sure of weight but heavy enough
I guess around 2:30 CET (1:30 GMT) because I also finished around same position and took some money, pulled allin reraise over shortstacked one with KJs against his TT and the board was 6J6Tsomething, he had to hit that set on the turn, then I tilted a bit and pushed with QJs against AK and K came on the flop...(actually with my ~10 BBs in MP it wasn't necessarily a bad move on a tight table)
Guys, need some help trying to work out the final positions from a game last night..
Set the scene; 3 handed at 12:15 and last 3 hands called. After the last three hands a chip count is required.
I was dealing and I thought I knew the outcome after the final hand, but was overruled, I just need confirmation that I'm wrong.
player 1 - 44,000 chips
player 2 - 48,000 chips
player 3 - 100,000 chips
(15k in the middle from blinds)
Player 1 went all in, which meant player 2 had to go all in, which meant player 3 had to go all in. Simple enough.
So all 3 are all-in, and they turn over their cards
player 1 - 4,7 off
player 2 - 4,4
player 3 - A,7
the community cards we 2,5,5,2,7
So, until the river player 2 was in the lead, after the river, player 3 took all the chips and got 1st place.
The question is - who was 2nd and who was 3rd?
Set the scene; 3 handed at 12:15 and last 3 hands called. After the last three hands a chip count is required.
I was dealing and I thought I knew the outcome after the final hand, but was overruled, I just need confirmation that I'm wrong.
player 1 - 44,000 chips
player 2 - 48,000 chips
player 3 - 100,000 chips
(15k in the middle from blinds)
Player 1 went all in, which meant player 2 had to go all in, which meant player 3 had to go all in. Simple enough.
So all 3 are all-in, and they turn over their cards
player 1 - 4,7 off
player 2 - 4,4
player 3 - A,7
the community cards we 2,5,5,2,7
So, until the river player 2 was in the lead, after the river, player 3 took all the chips and got 1st place.
The question is - who was 2nd and who was 3rd?
If player 1 went all in with 44k, then player 2, with 48K could call player 1 and keep 4k (obviously unlikely) or go al in. Player 3 would then only need to call at either 44k or 48k depending on what player 2 did, this would mean he would have 52k or 56k remaining.
Assuming player 2 just called, then the chip count would be.
Player 1 - 0
Player 2 - 4k
Player 3 - 52k
Pot 103k
Player 3 wins, player 2 would still have 4k left and would stand in 2nd, player 1 3rd.
I think.
Assuming player 2 just called, then the chip count would be.
Player 1 - 0
Player 2 - 4k
Player 3 - 52k
Pot 103k
Player 3 wins, player 2 would still have 4k left and would stand in 2nd, player 1 3rd.
I think.
That's how the game finished;
Player 3 got 1st,
player 2 got 2nd,
player 1 got 3rd....
They were all happy with that, and no one challenged it.
The thing that sticks in my mind is that even though player 3 had less chips, his hand was better than player 2's
Player 1 had 7,7,5,5,4
Player 2 had 5,5,4,4,7
So in mind it should have been;
Player 3 got 1st,
Player 1 got 2nd,
Player 2 got 3rd.
I'm just confused because player 1 completely won and took all the chips in play in the final hand.....who did he put out first? I think he put out player 2 first.
Player 3 got 1st,
player 2 got 2nd,
player 1 got 3rd....
They were all happy with that, and no one challenged it.
The thing that sticks in my mind is that even though player 3 had less chips, his hand was better than player 2's
Player 1 had 7,7,5,5,4
Player 2 had 5,5,4,4,7
So in mind it should have been;
Player 3 got 1st,
Player 1 got 2nd,
Player 2 got 3rd.
I'm just confused because player 1 completely won and took all the chips in play in the final hand.....who did he put out first? I think he put out player 2 first.
TVRJAS said:
Someone asked the same question here:
If you google search question (in poker if last 3 players go all in who comes 2nd)
2nd search down cardschat
But it clearly states that 2nd place goes to the highest chip leader.
Brilliant mate, thanks for that, I searched and couldn't find the answerIf you google search question (in poker if last 3 players go all in who comes 2nd)
2nd search down cardschat
But it clearly states that 2nd place goes to the highest chip leader.
Some interesting facts for those that don't play much online poker.
I have clocked up now 148,592 hands of poker online and have always kept stats in a book of what is actually happening.
These latest round of stats are eye watering,not only eye watering but concludes that online poker in my research is not what it seems.
This is not coming from a bad looser or blaming my poor play,just take a look at these stats and make your own mind up.
I have been just messing about building some stats on micro tables 10c 50c tourns and this year managed to obtain a max $7 profit in 392 games which has now fallen to a profit of $2.80.
So these stats have been built from what has happened over the last 100 odd games.
My last 100 premium hand going to river lost an amazing 89 times with 2 split pot (Both AK) so 9 wins out of 100.
My last 20 AA 18 loss 2 wins
My last 20 K's 16 loss 4 wins
My last 15 q's 13 loss 2 wins
My last 42 AK 35 loss 2 draw 5 wins
My last outs or massive hits are running at 92% coming from big blind garbage or if not garbage I have 60% 70% advantage.
This is not just happening to me with big blind,constantly watching 34 suited 83 suited 72 suited taking out AA,KK,AK.
I have also been on the advantage end of this rigged big blind nonsense last game for instance called a 480 chips all in as i was chip leader with 36 clubs and hit a Full house taking out his K's... and this is not the 1st time obviously
I have even tried folding every hand other than just calling big blind which works quite well but again obviously this rings alarm bells that online poker is not using RNG (Well to me it does anyway)
Just to pin point what happens day in day out that last game where I was chip leader suddenly went all wrong.
My hand 9's against big blind J8h flop 8J8 9 river J (Yeah right)
" " KQc against big blind K9 flop K-10-7 7 river 9 ( No clubs on board)
" " A2d " " " Q2h 8h-Ah-3d 2d river Jh (Wins flush)
" " AKd " " " 56d 10-7Q 6 10 (lost to a 6 no diamonds)
" " Q's " " " K9s 9JA K 8 (Lost 2pr)
and finally out finished 3rd 950 chips left all in from button AQ... Big blind calls A4 10-JA 8 and river 4. Sorry if not clear with using "" but that is all losses from big blind.
I appreciate the fact that this is micro stakes and does attract some donk wild play,but it can't hide what's going on with big blind. Considering it is such low stakes it surprises me that it's only now and then you meet a complete idiot going all in 1st hand with nothing(It does happen but not as much as you might expect)
Also in some of my early posts I mentioned about the constant being dealt suited hands.. Well this has not changed I average between 40-55% every game suited hands and 99% of the time hit none.
In a short aggressive game of 10c 20c double up 4 players in 12 hands I have had 9 suited and all 9 hit no matching suit.
I often use a deck of cards to deal out cards to myself and five imaginary friends and on average my stats work out that I deal myself ONE suited hand every 15. To my memory my record is 32 hands dealt before I got a suited hand in my position. My record to date on online poker is still 8 dealt in a row, many times 3-5 in a row and most short games work out about 50-50. This has never changed in my 6th year of playing online although I never noticed for the 1st year and a bit.
Sorry for the very long post but would be interested if others could keep note of what their Premium hands stats are and also note the times you see big blind win with complete garbage hands.
I have clocked up now 148,592 hands of poker online and have always kept stats in a book of what is actually happening.
These latest round of stats are eye watering,not only eye watering but concludes that online poker in my research is not what it seems.
This is not coming from a bad looser or blaming my poor play,just take a look at these stats and make your own mind up.
I have been just messing about building some stats on micro tables 10c 50c tourns and this year managed to obtain a max $7 profit in 392 games which has now fallen to a profit of $2.80.
So these stats have been built from what has happened over the last 100 odd games.
My last 100 premium hand going to river lost an amazing 89 times with 2 split pot (Both AK) so 9 wins out of 100.
My last 20 AA 18 loss 2 wins
My last 20 K's 16 loss 4 wins
My last 15 q's 13 loss 2 wins
My last 42 AK 35 loss 2 draw 5 wins
My last outs or massive hits are running at 92% coming from big blind garbage or if not garbage I have 60% 70% advantage.
This is not just happening to me with big blind,constantly watching 34 suited 83 suited 72 suited taking out AA,KK,AK.
I have also been on the advantage end of this rigged big blind nonsense last game for instance called a 480 chips all in as i was chip leader with 36 clubs and hit a Full house taking out his K's... and this is not the 1st time obviously
I have even tried folding every hand other than just calling big blind which works quite well but again obviously this rings alarm bells that online poker is not using RNG (Well to me it does anyway) Just to pin point what happens day in day out that last game where I was chip leader suddenly went all wrong.
My hand 9's against big blind J8h flop 8J8 9 river J (Yeah right)
" " KQc against big blind K9 flop K-10-7 7 river 9 ( No clubs on board)
" " A2d " " " Q2h 8h-Ah-3d 2d river Jh (Wins flush)
" " AKd " " " 56d 10-7Q 6 10 (lost to a 6 no diamonds)
" " Q's " " " K9s 9JA K 8 (Lost 2pr)
and finally out finished 3rd 950 chips left all in from button AQ... Big blind calls A4 10-JA 8 and river 4. Sorry if not clear with using "" but that is all losses from big blind.
I appreciate the fact that this is micro stakes and does attract some donk wild play,but it can't hide what's going on with big blind. Considering it is such low stakes it surprises me that it's only now and then you meet a complete idiot going all in 1st hand with nothing(It does happen but not as much as you might expect)
Also in some of my early posts I mentioned about the constant being dealt suited hands.. Well this has not changed I average between 40-55% every game suited hands and 99% of the time hit none.
In a short aggressive game of 10c 20c double up 4 players in 12 hands I have had 9 suited and all 9 hit no matching suit.
I often use a deck of cards to deal out cards to myself and five imaginary friends and on average my stats work out that I deal myself ONE suited hand every 15. To my memory my record is 32 hands dealt before I got a suited hand in my position. My record to date on online poker is still 8 dealt in a row, many times 3-5 in a row and most short games work out about 50-50. This has never changed in my 6th year of playing online although I never noticed for the 1st year and a bit.
Sorry for the very long post but would be interested if others could keep note of what their Premium hands stats are and also note the times you see big blind win with complete garbage hands.
Edited by TVRJAS on Sunday 22 February 17:07
t No doubt a couple more in the pipeline as well then! I've recently restarted playing online on PStars and off to a decent start! An hour here and there each evening tends to see me doubling on my initial buy-in on the NL10 Zoom tables playing in a relatively regular manner.
Hoping to get some more time on over this weekend and, with Monday off work, entering a few of the daily tournaments to try my hand.
Hoping to get some more time on over this weekend and, with Monday off work, entering a few of the daily tournaments to try my hand.
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