Owen Jones v the Princes; who has served the country most?
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See his comment on a story from the Mirror (what a surprise!) disgustlingly titled "Prince William will owe taxpayer £400,000 if he quits helicopter job early"
Viz:
"Someone needs to tell His Royal Highness Prince Harry (sic) that the best thing he could do for Britain is simply to do nothing!"
He can't even link the story to the right Royal!
See:
https://www.facebook.com/pages/Owen-Jones/39148291...
Not like Owen who never has a public penny spent ferrying him around from TV station to radio shack or bagging another appearance fee for serving the nation by doing, well what exactly? Spinning lefty bile and railing against so called bedroom taxes and the cost of Baroness Thatcher's funeral.
Viz:
"Someone needs to tell His Royal Highness Prince Harry (sic) that the best thing he could do for Britain is simply to do nothing!"
He can't even link the story to the right Royal!
See:
https://www.facebook.com/pages/Owen-Jones/39148291...
Not like Owen who never has a public penny spent ferrying him around from TV station to radio shack or bagging another appearance fee for serving the nation by doing, well what exactly? Spinning lefty bile and railing against so called bedroom taxes and the cost of Baroness Thatcher's funeral.
He is just a snivelling little s
t who if ever thrusted into the realities of life would fall straight on his arse. I would honestly love to see him try and run a business and see how long it lasts before he started blaming (probably be Thatchers fault) anything but himself for its failure. Honestly cant be bothered to read anything he has to say.
t who if ever thrusted into the realities of life would fall straight on his arse. I would honestly love to see him try and run a business and see how long it lasts before he started blaming (probably be Thatchers fault) anything but himself for its failure. Honestly cant be bothered to read anything he has to say. M3333 said:
He is just a snivelling little st who if ever thrusted into the realities of life would fall straight on his arse. I would honestly love to see him try and run a business and see how long it lasts before he started blaming (probably be Thatchers fault) anything but himself for its failure. Honestly cant be bothered to read anything he has to say.
Don't know (or read) anything of the guy, but a quick wiki shows he seems a fairly successful columnist and writer. Why is the measure of success always 'running a business'?t who if ever thrusted into the realities of life would fall straight on his arse. I would honestly love to see him try and run a business and see how long it lasts before he started blaming (probably be Thatchers fault) anything but himself for its failure. Honestly cant be bothered to read anything he has to say. vonuber said:
M3333 said:
He is just a snivelling little st who if ever thrusted into the realities of life would fall straight on his arse. I would honestly love to see him try and run a business and see how long it lasts before he started blaming (probably be Thatchers fault) anything but himself for its failure. Honestly cant be bothered to read anything he has to say.
Don't know (or read) anything of the guy, but a quick wiki shows he seems a fairly successful t who if ever thrusted into the realities of life would fall straight on his arse. I would honestly love to see him try and run a business and see how long it lasts before he started blaming (probably be Thatchers fault) anything but himself for its failure. Honestly cant be bothered to read anything he has to say. I'd rather see him volunteer to fight for the nation in its service, like Prince Harry, than run a business. He already does the latter I suppose; 'Owen Jones PLC'. Purveyor of peerless propaganda and socialist spin.
vonuber said:
Don't know (or read) anything of the guy, but a quick wiki shows he seems a fairly successful columnist and writer. Why is the measure of success always 'running a business'?
I did not say anything about success...he wouldn't run a business anyway? Or if he did and it made some money i would expect him to distribute his wealth of course like all other modern socialists.M3333 said:
He is just a snivelling little st who if ever thrusted into the realities of life would fall straight on his arse. I would honestly love to see him try and run a business and see how long it lasts before he started blaming (probably be Thatchers fault) anything but himself for its failure. Honestly cant be bothered to read anything he has to say.
He may never run a business t who if ever thrusted into the realities of life would fall straight on his arse. I would honestly love to see him try and run a business and see how long it lasts before he started blaming (probably be Thatchers fault) anything but himself for its failure. Honestly cant be bothered to read anything he has to say. But there is a bloody good chance he could end up running the country as he has exactly the experience needed for the front bench at westminister
Sorry but this royal sycophancy is just ridiculous.
What's Owen Jones ever done? Well for one thing he actually makes a living mostly from the private sector so comparing his grasp on reality with Prince Harry is a bit of a non-starter. He's managed to build up a readership who presumably largely agree with his outlook without happening to be the son of a future hereditary head of state, which takes something.
And while it might be brave and admirable of Prince Harry to go running around Afghanistan getting shot at, it doesn't really help me any more than being a left wing columnist and broadcaster, and arguably less if you value the political and social dialogue of the country.
You might disagree with nearly all his opinions, and I do, but you don't need to make yourself sound like an idiot in doing so.
What's Owen Jones ever done? Well for one thing he actually makes a living mostly from the private sector so comparing his grasp on reality with Prince Harry is a bit of a non-starter. He's managed to build up a readership who presumably largely agree with his outlook without happening to be the son of a future hereditary head of state, which takes something.
And while it might be brave and admirable of Prince Harry to go running around Afghanistan getting shot at, it doesn't really help me any more than being a left wing columnist and broadcaster, and arguably less if you value the political and social dialogue of the country.
You might disagree with nearly all his opinions, and I do, but you don't need to make yourself sound like an idiot in doing so.
rohrl said:
If no one wanted to read what Owen Jones writes or hear what he says then he'd be out of a job fairly quickly.
Why all this envy at someone making a successful living?
Envy? Why is despising a propagandising agit-prop who comes out with unfair accusations (as per the quote) and deceitful, disingenuous descriptions of things he disagrees with that the govt. does - or he assumes they will - e.g. railing against the tax that isn't symptomatic of envy?Why all this envy at someone making a successful living?
I realise that you are one of the more well known/regular defenders of all things socialist on PH but some of us might actually disagree that his speaking his mind, and being given a platform disproportionate to his actual position as a part time freelancing hack and self-styled thinker (re. the number of times the BBC for example give scope for his views) is a 'contribution' to the country.
I see his skewing of facts, his pushing of untruths and 'bad' policy ideas alike (he's the sort who would run the country even further into debt at the drop of a hat) and his ability to influence potential voters - including the unthinking sheep who follow his comments, including the downright lies, spin and nonsense - as a likely negative. Definitely not a contribution. Whether you agree with my views on him and his impact or not, that has nothing to do with envy.
AJS- said:
Sorry but this royal sycophancy is just ridiculous.
What's Owen Jones ever done? Well for one thing he actually makes a living mostly from the private sector so comparing his grasp on reality with Prince Harry is a bit of a non-starter. He's managed to build up a readership who presumably largely agree with his outlook without happening to be the son of a future hereditary head of state, which takes something.
And while it might be brave and admirable of Prince Harry to go running around Afghanistan getting shot at, it doesn't really help me any more than being a left wing columnist and broadcaster, and arguably less if you value the political and social dialogue of the country.
You might disagree with nearly all his opinions, and I do, but you don't need to make yourself sound like an idiot in doing so.
Comparing his grasp of reality with Prince Harry (or indeed William, who the original article related to, not that Jones noticed)? when did that come into the argument? If you read the comments/article that stimulated the initial post you might spot that the issue was nothing of thre sort. It, the post, was about the relative contribution they have made and his gall in daring suggest Prince Harry would best serve the country by doing nothing. When, to my mind he's done a damn site more than Jones and made greater sacrifices/taken far more risk in doing so. If you think Jones has contributed anything of actual worth to the country I'm amazed. And given it is you, that takes a lot...What's Owen Jones ever done? Well for one thing he actually makes a living mostly from the private sector so comparing his grasp on reality with Prince Harry is a bit of a non-starter. He's managed to build up a readership who presumably largely agree with his outlook without happening to be the son of a future hereditary head of state, which takes something.
And while it might be brave and admirable of Prince Harry to go running around Afghanistan getting shot at, it doesn't really help me any more than being a left wing columnist and broadcaster, and arguably less if you value the political and social dialogue of the country.
You might disagree with nearly all his opinions, and I do, but you don't need to make yourself sound like an idiot in doing so.
I'm sure the service men fighting in Afghanistan and elsewhere will be touched by your seeming lack of gratitude (rather different to sycophancy by the way) and respect and appreciative of how you think a semi-detached Trotskyist peddling his views - lies and distortions alike - is of more value to the country. Idiotic? Were you typing into the virtual mirror?
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