Open face helmet in the UK?

Open face helmet in the UK?

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jhoneyball

1,764 posts

276 months

Wednesday 29th May 2013
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I like the look of the Schuberth J1, but:

"The Schuberth J1 has now been discontinued and we are waiting news on the Schuberth J2 due early 2014, if you would like updates on the launch of this helmet pleae email us at sales@justhelmets.co.uk ."


J B L

4,200 posts

215 months

Wednesday 29th May 2013
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mu0n said:
MC Bodge said:
That looks cool as fk!
In the same vein I prefer the new Shark Raw.




Rosscow

8,765 posts

163 months

Wednesday 29th May 2013
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I'm looking at either an open face helmet or a flip up to use when in Spain this summer.

At the moment I quite like the Shark RSJ open face:



And the Shark Evoline 3:


catso

14,787 posts

267 months

Wednesday 29th May 2013
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GadgeS3C

4,516 posts

164 months

Wednesday 29th May 2013
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catso said:
Presumably her other "garment" contains Kevlar armour wink

Rosscow

8,765 posts

163 months

Thursday 30th May 2013
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Result!

Just managed to snap up a Shark Evoline 2 in my size for £140 delivered.

had to be a funky pattern unfortunately but not too bothered:


WatchMajor

92 posts

116 months

Tuesday 27th January 2015
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Rubin215 said:
I would never wear an open face helmet on the road.

I have seen the damage caused by face versus tarmac on several occasions: it ain't pretty.

Worst I have seen was a 30mph scooter rider who slid into the kerb and lost his lower jaw completely, leaving a shattered and bloody mess of teeth, bone and tongue. I still shudder and get the cold shivers up my back when I think of it.

I might not be the best looking bloke, but at least kids don't run away screaming when they see me; I want to keep it that way.
No more dangerous than cycling a road and moutain bike where i often go over 40mph wearing lycra and a very thin shell helmet

moanthebairns

17,937 posts

198 months

Tuesday 27th January 2015
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WatchMajor said:
No more dangerous than cycling a road and moutain bike where i often go over 40mph wearing lycra and a very thin shell helmet
A few things.

You need a new faux capacitor as your old ones fked.

Why wear Lyrca it looks st. What is wrong with jeans and a t-shirt

evo8

468 posts

215 months

Wednesday 28th January 2015
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moanthebairns said:
Why wear Lyrca it looks st. What is wrong with jeans and a t-shirt
I have podered this as well. What I cannot work out is this. The point of everyday cycling on the road is to get fit, correct? If you you buy an expensive bike and wear lycra and all the gear you are generating less wind resistance so it takes less effort so you use less energy and have to travel further. Surley you want to do the opposite, you want to use more energy and create more wind resistance so by wearing baggy clothes (jeans and t-shirt) you will get fitter faster thus spending less time on the bike and spending more time in the pub and the saved money (not spent on a expensive light weight bike and lycra) on something decent like going to the TT or am I missing something!!

RemyMartin

6,759 posts

205 months

Wednesday 28th January 2015
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evo8 said:
moanthebairns said:
Why wear Lyrca it looks st. What is wrong with jeans and a t-shirt
I have podered this as well. What I cannot work out is this. The point of everyday cycling on the road is to get fit, correct? If you you buy an expensive bike and wear lycra and all the gear you are generating less wind resistance so it takes less effort so you use less energy and have to travel further. Surley you want to do the opposite, you want to use more energy and create more wind resistance so by wearing baggy clothes (jeans and t-shirt) you will get fitter faster thus spending less time on the bike and spending more time in the pub and the saved money (not spent on a expensive light weight bike and lycra) on something decent like going to the TT or am I missing something!!
Because chafing.

SteveSteveson

3,209 posts

163 months

Wednesday 28th January 2015
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RemyMartin said:
evo8 said:
moanthebairns said:
Why wear Lyrca it looks st. What is wrong with jeans and a t-shirt
I have podered this as well. What I cannot work out is this. The point of everyday cycling on the road is to get fit, correct? If you you buy an expensive bike and wear lycra and all the gear you are generating less wind resistance so it takes less effort so you use less energy and have to travel further. Surley you want to do the opposite, you want to use more energy and create more wind resistance so by wearing baggy clothes (jeans and t-shirt) you will get fitter faster thus spending less time on the bike and spending more time in the pub and the saved money (not spent on a expensive light weight bike and lycra) on something decent like going to the TT or am I missing something!!
Because chafing.
Mostly this. Also, you get very sweaty cycling, so need something wicking so as not to be miserable. On top of that going faster is fun. Not wearing cycling gear and having a heavy bike is like riding a 125. Yes, it achieves the same thing objectively (a 125 can filter and do the speed limit) but somewhat misses the point.

Riding a fast, responsive bicycle is as fun and satisfying as riding a sports bike. Riding a heavy bike in the wrong cloths is as miserable as riding a 125 in winter.

moanthebairns

17,937 posts

198 months

Wednesday 28th January 2015
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SteveSteveson said:
RemyMartin said:
evo8 said:
moanthebairns said:
Why wear Lyrca it looks st. What is wrong with jeans and a t-shirt
I have podered this as well. What I cannot work out is this. The point of everyday cycling on the road is to get fit, correct? If you you buy an expensive bike and wear lycra and all the gear you are generating less wind resistance so it takes less effort so you use less energy and have to travel further. Surley you want to do the opposite, you want to use more energy and create more wind resistance so by wearing baggy clothes (jeans and t-shirt) you will get fitter faster thus spending less time on the bike and spending more time in the pub and the saved money (not spent on a expensive light weight bike and lycra) on something decent like going to the TT or am I missing something!!
Because chafing.
Mostly this. Also, you get very sweaty cycling, so need something wicking so as not to be miserable. On top of that going faster is fun. Not wearing cycling gear and having a heavy bike is like riding a 125. Yes, it achieves the same thing objectively (a 125 can filter and do the speed limit) but somewhat misses the point.

Riding a fast, responsive bicycle is as fun and satisfying as riding a sports bike. Riding a heavy bike in the wrong cloths is as miserable as riding a 125 in winter.
It’s just not, I mean really it’s just not. I get cycling, I used to do a st load of bmx-ing and MTB-ing, but road cycling I’ll just never get.

Who would pick that over a woodland run with table tops and drop offs.

Who in their right mind thinks, what I’m going to do today, is go out in the pissing rain and cycle into a head wind for the next 50 miles, freezing to start with then fking roasting, going till my lungs burn and my legs fill with lactic acid.

Jumping off a phone booth, or a flight of stairs and grinding down a park bench on the way down is almost as much fun as a bike. Proper cycling is as dull as dishwater.

What fks me off and this really fks me off is road cyclists, they buy bikes built for speed and nothing else, buy a fking mountain bike, yes it’s harder to cycle but you can bunny hop over drain covers, rubbish and kerbs. Its effectively like buying an Ariel Atom for the road then complaining that it’s not good on pot holed roads. A mountain bike is like a 4x4, nothing will stop it, buy that you tit.

tonytifoso

1,384 posts

223 months

Wednesday 28th January 2015
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moanthebairns said:
It’s just not, I mean really it’s just not. I get cycling, I used to do a st load of bmx-ing and MTB-ing, but road cycling I’ll just never get.

Who would pick that over a woodland run with table tops and drop offs.

Who in their right mind thinks, what I’m going to do today, is go out in the pissing rain and cycle into a head wind for the next 50 miles, freezing to start with then fking roasting, going till my lungs burn and my legs fill with lactic acid.

Jumping off a phone booth, or a flight of stairs and grinding down a park bench on the way down is almost as much fun as a bike. Proper cycling is as dull as dishwater.

What fks me off and this really fks me off is road cyclists, they buy bikes built for speed and nothing else, buy a fking mountain bike, yes it’s harder to cycle but you can bunny hop over drain covers, rubbish and kerbs. Its effectively like buying an Ariel Atom for the road then complaining that it’s not good on pot holed roads. A mountain bike is like a 4x4, nothing will stop it, buy that you tit.
7/10 Not enough variety of sweary words wink

WinstonWolf

72,857 posts

239 months

Wednesday 28th January 2015
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evo8 said:
moanthebairns said:
Why wear Lyrca it looks st. What is wrong with jeans and a t-shirt
I have podered this as well. What I cannot work out is this. The point of everyday cycling on the road is to get fit, correct? If you you buy an expensive bike and wear lycra and all the gear you are generating less wind resistance so it takes less effort so you use less energy and have to travel further. Surley you want to do the opposite, you want to use more energy and create more wind resistance so by wearing baggy clothes (jeans and t-shirt) you will get fitter faster thus spending less time on the bike and spending more time in the pub and the saved money (not spent on a expensive light weight bike and lycra) on something decent like going to the TT or am I missing something!!
Yup, come out on a ride with me across the fens and I'll show you wink

LiquidGnome

551 posts

121 months

Wednesday 28th January 2015
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Pothole said:
The usual crap being spouted on here. All of you with the horror stories, how often have you fallen off onto your face since you've been riding? Why is it any more likely just because you're wearing an open face lid? ATGNI Rules!!!
It does happen smile

I have an old visor with deep scratches running down it.

Hooli

32,278 posts

200 months

Wednesday 28th January 2015
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The visor on my open face has never been scratched.



Or fitted

SteveSteveson

3,209 posts

163 months

Wednesday 28th January 2015
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moanthebairns said:
It’s just not, I mean really it’s just not. I get cycling, I used to do a st load of bmx-ing and MTB-ing, but road cycling I’ll just never get.

Who would pick that over a woodland run with table tops and drop offs.

Who in their right mind thinks, what I’m going to do today, is go out in the pissing rain and cycle into a head wind for the next 50 miles, freezing to start with then fking roasting, going till my lungs burn and my legs fill with lactic acid.

Jumping off a phone booth, or a flight of stairs and grinding down a park bench on the way down is almost as much fun as a bike. Proper cycling is as dull as dishwater.

What fks me off and this really fks me off is road cyclists, they buy bikes built for speed and nothing else, buy a fking mountain bike, yes it’s harder to cycle but you can bunny hop over drain covers, rubbish and kerbs. Its effectively like buying an Ariel Atom for the road then complaining that it’s not good on pot holed roads. A mountain bike is like a 4x4, nothing will stop it, buy that you tit.
Everyone likes there own thing. You may as well say "whats the point in a sports bike. Who in their right mind thinks, what I’m going to do today, is go out in the pissing rain and ride into a sided wind for the next 250 miles, freezing, going till my arms burn and my legs cramp."

Sports bikes are also built for speed and nothing else. A mountain bike is far more inappropriate for the road than a road bike. Heavy, complex suspension, hard work, and yes, like driving a 4x4. Bloody pointless on the road. Why pick a sports bike that will do 180mph, 0-60 in sub 3s when a duel purpose/enduro bike is much better for UK roads?

Personally I ride a CX bike on the road with drop bars and 32mm tires, because a road bike is not ideal for most UK roads, but far better than a mountain bike. A mountain bike is just st on the road.

Everyone wants something different.

dingocooke

670 posts

220 months

Friday 30th January 2015
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srob said:
Loads of people do wear them. I think they look really cool; if I could get a freebie I'd probably wear one hehe

My brother's got a whole shelf full of the original 'corker' lids that the old boy gave him when he bought his Vincent. Some of those look of slightly dubious construction...!!
Funny enough, I use a pudding basin when I ride my really old stuff, 16H, Vincent etc. an open face when I ride my 70's stuff (Commando, TR6C etc.) and a full face on my R1!
I'd ride with no helmet when scooting round at slow speeds if I could, if you've never done it, you don't know how free you feel; OK it's not safe, but life is for the living; nobody gets out alive....

here's my pudding basin on my Egli, just before it was used for the 2015 Crossbow Calendar shoot



Prof Prolapse

16,160 posts

190 months

Friday 30th January 2015
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SteveSteveson said:
Everyone likes there own thing. You may as well say "whats the point in a sports bike. Who in their right mind thinks, what I’m going to do today, is go out in the pissing rain and ride into a sided wind for the next 250 miles, freezing, going till my arms burn and my legs cramp."

Sports bikes are also built for speed and nothing else. A mountain bike is far more inappropriate for the road than a road bike. Heavy, complex suspension, hard work, and yes, like driving a 4x4. Bloody pointless on the road. Why pick a sports bike that will do 180mph, 0-60 in sub 3s when a duel purpose/enduro bike is much better for UK roads?

Personally I ride a CX bike on the road with drop bars and 32mm tires, because a road bike is not ideal for most UK roads, but far better than a mountain bike. A mountain bike is just st on the road.

Everyone wants something different.
I have a better analogy. Riding a road bicycle is like being a kiddy fiddler.

Only other kiddy fiddlers will understand your obsession, the rest of the world hates you, and looking at you makes us physically sick.









southgate

742 posts

218 months

Friday 30th January 2015
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Just because no-one has posted this here yet:



Cracking pick of BN