Why are we "Ring Fencing" Foreign Aid?

Why are we "Ring Fencing" Foreign Aid?

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onyx39

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11,123 posts

150 months

Tuesday 28th May 2013
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"Justice, energy and communities are among the departments agreeing to "significant savings", he said, adding that health, schools and foreign aid would be protected from cuts."

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-22684993

I really do not get why we are exempting Foreign Aid for cuts? I could understand if the money went to the starving in Africa etc, but invariably it goes to countries like India who have very strong economies.

Pesty

42,655 posts

256 months

Tuesday 28th May 2013
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Because Cameron is a .


Mattt

16,661 posts

218 months

Tuesday 28th May 2013
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Because thanks to the Bribery Act companies are not allowed to bribe foreign officials anymore, so we need the government to do it for us.

BevR

683 posts

143 months

Tuesday 28th May 2013
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Because many people still believe in soft power, whether or not it actually works is up for debate (some people even debate whether it is soft power or not but thats up to you).

Anyway; a little reading if anyone is interested in the new 0.7% figure:

http://www.ifs.org.uk/budgets/gb2012/12chap7.pdf

I didnt realise only 8.3% of our aid is classified as humanitarian aid. Italy has signed up to reach 0.7% while its currently at 0.15%, I can only imagine how well that will go down.

Dominicc01

530 posts

167 months

Tuesday 28th May 2013
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There is no logic to it. And the continuation of this nonsense will lose the Conservatives far more votes than gay marriage or anything else they've done.

anonymous-user

54 months

Tuesday 28th May 2013
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The traditional route of awarding contracts to domestic companies in exchange for non-exec directorships at a later date has become a little too obvious. Keep it all 3rd world and the kickbacks are not subject to public scrutiny and can be a lot bigger.

marcosgt

11,021 posts

176 months

Tuesday 28th May 2013
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We can afford to provide aid to countries that have real need, but countries that have space and nuclear programmes and companies that buy up major UK industries can fk right off, errr put their own houses in order.

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anonymous-user

54 months

Tuesday 28th May 2013
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marcosgt said:
We can afford to provide aid to countries that have real need...
are you sure? the uk has a budget deficit and has done since 2002. all the money you are so wisely giving away you actually have to borrow. bewildering.

JDRoest

1,126 posts

150 months

Tuesday 28th May 2013
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onyx39 said:
I really do not get why we are exempting Foreign Aid for cuts? I could understand if the money went to the starving in Africa etc, but invariably it goes to countries like India who have very strong economies.
It keeps the BBC/Guardian/Lefties off this Governments back about helping poorer countries.

(Instead it ties them up with the question of who gets the aid and why they get it, which keeps them all busy for months.)

Asterix

24,438 posts

228 months

Tuesday 28th May 2013
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Mattt said:
Because thanks to the Bribery Act companies are not allowed to bribe foreign officials anymore, so we need the government to do it for us.
Which worked wonders with India recently...

thehawk

9,335 posts

207 months

Friday 31st May 2013
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Mattt said:
Because thanks to the Bribery Act companies are not allowed to bribe foreign officials anymore, so we need the government to do it for us.
I thought that was what local business partners were for

traxx

3,143 posts

222 months

Friday 31st May 2013
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Wasn't it something the Liberals wrote into their agreement with the Conservatives?

Elroy Blue

8,688 posts

192 months

Friday 31st May 2013
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traxx said:
Wasn't it something the Liberals wrote into their agreement with the Conservatives?
No it was Cameron's commitment to appear warm and fluffy and at the same time ensuring his cronies get lots of kick backs.

oyster

12,595 posts

248 months

Friday 31st May 2013
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Elroy Blue said:
traxx said:
Wasn't it something the Liberals wrote into their agreement with the Conservatives?
No it was Cameron's commitment to appear warm and fluffy and at the same time ensuring his cronies get lots of kick backs.
I believe all 3 major parties were in favour of it at the 2010 election, which means it had the support of 80%+ of the electorate.

ralphrj

3,525 posts

191 months

Friday 31st May 2013
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oyster said:
Elroy Blue said:
traxx said:
Wasn't it something the Liberals wrote into their agreement with the Conservatives?
No it was Cameron's commitment to appear warm and fluffy and at the same time ensuring his cronies get lots of kick backs.
I believe all 3 major parties were in favour of it at the 2010 election, which means it had the support of 80%+ of the electorate.
Correct

Conservate manifesto said:
We will honour our commitment to spend 0.7 per cent of national income in aid
Labour manifesto said:
We remain committed to spending 0.7 per cent of national income on aid from 2013
Libdem manifesto said:
We will meet the UK’s obligations to the developing world by committing to spending 0.7 per cent of GNI on aid

anonymous-user

54 months

Friday 31st May 2013
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oyster said:
I believe all 3 major parties were in favour of it at the 2010 election, which means it had the support of 80%+ of the electorate.
i'm not sure how you make the logical leap from all 3 parties being in favour to 80% of the electorate being in favour.

all 3 parties were in favour of staying in the EU, i'm fairly certain 80% of the electorate wern't.

Pesty

42,655 posts

256 months

Friday 31st May 2013
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All three parties are against the death penalty

einsign

5,494 posts

246 months

Friday 31st May 2013
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All three parties do not represent the people of the UK.

ClaphamGT3

11,300 posts

243 months

Friday 31st May 2013
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The primary purpose of overseas aid is to provide competitive advantage for UK businesses operating in recipient jurisdictions. National businesses exporting goods and services is a key component of a robust economy, hence most major economies (ie Italy, the US, CIS) prioritise it.

Hardly rocket science.

Elroy Blue

8,688 posts

192 months

Friday 31st May 2013
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Yes, that's worked really well with India lately hasn't it.
And why should taxpayers money be used to fund the dividend payouts of private companies, when our infrastructure is collapsing around us.