Mock my Riding Position
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moanthebairns said:
Prof Prolapse said:
More evidence that you're god's gift to motorcycling then?
sorry i should add that I'm s
te compared to some on here. But hey, at least i dont fking bin it in the litter after a SI number 2........ks, you big headed bd, the guy's a fking weirdo... 
Fire99 said:
Sounds like you're going great guns. Plenty of good riders get twitchy about wet track days. Just keep racking up the miles on track and where possible, have a chat with track day instructors that are usually at the circuit. You might be able to get one to follow you around for a few laps and give you some tips.
All I would say without wanting to sound patronising, don't do anything daft.
there was none there last night but I got chatting to a few advanced riders and stole a few tips.All I would say without wanting to sound patronising, don't do anything daft.
one thing Im not great about is using the kerb, I stayed clear of it in the wet but i noticed a few of the boys with track bikes were using in the dry and picking up huge speed on me at these points. I let a few past to focus on there lines but it still feels horrible going over them so need to work on that as thats where Im loosing pace.
moanthebairns said:
there was none there last night but I got chatting to a few advanced riders and stole a few tips.
one thing Im not great about is using the kerb, I stayed clear of it in the wet but i noticed a few of the boys with track bikes were using in the dry and picking up huge speed on me at these points. I let a few past to focus on there lines but it still feels horrible going over them so need to work on that as thats where Im loosing pace.
I'd be careful with kerbs (once again without wanting to sound like your mother). There's next to no grip on them and I'd wager they are slow to dry after rain. one thing Im not great about is using the kerb, I stayed clear of it in the wet but i noticed a few of the boys with track bikes were using in the dry and picking up huge speed on me at these points. I let a few past to focus on there lines but it still feels horrible going over them so need to work on that as thats where Im loosing pace.
Fire99 said:
moanthebairns said:
there was none there last night but I got chatting to a few advanced riders and stole a few tips.
one thing Im not great about is using the kerb, I stayed clear of it in the wet but i noticed a few of the boys with track bikes were using in the dry and picking up huge speed on me at these points. I let a few past to focus on there lines but it still feels horrible going over them so need to work on that as thats where Im loosing pace.
I'd be careful with kerbs (once again without wanting to sound like your mother). There's next to no grip on them and I'd wager they are slow to dry after rain. one thing Im not great about is using the kerb, I stayed clear of it in the wet but i noticed a few of the boys with track bikes were using in the dry and picking up huge speed on me at these points. I let a few past to focus on there lines but it still feels horrible going over them so need to work on that as thats where Im loosing pace.
Prof Prolapse said:
moanthebairns said:
Prof Prolapse said:
More evidence that you're god's gift to motorcycling then?
sorry i should add that I'm ste compared to some on here. But hey, at least i dont fking bin it in the litter after a SI number 2........ks, you big headed bd, the guy's a fking weirdo... I got the library to order it in and watched it on youtube....by god im tight....
Regarding the foot position on pegs thing and adjusting gear levers and rearsets (if you got them) - what sort of angle should your foot be at?
Basically, I ride with balls of feet on pegs, as I find this most comfortable, less clumsy. Now when Im following someone, also riding on balls of feet, I can see some of the soles of their boots i.e. their heels are slightly higher than toes. With the balls of my feet on pegs it feels like my feet are flat i.e parallel with the ground. Is this odd?
For reference, I'm 6ft riding a standard 2008 Fireblade.
Basically, I ride with balls of feet on pegs, as I find this most comfortable, less clumsy. Now when Im following someone, also riding on balls of feet, I can see some of the soles of their boots i.e. their heels are slightly higher than toes. With the balls of my feet on pegs it feels like my feet are flat i.e parallel with the ground. Is this odd?
For reference, I'm 6ft riding a standard 2008 Fireblade.
southgate said:
Regarding the foot position on pegs thing and adjusting gear levers and rearsets (if you got them) - what sort of angle should your foot be at?
Basically, I ride with balls of feet on pegs, as I find this most comfortable, less clumsy. Now when Im following someone, also riding on balls of feet, I can see some of the soles of their boots i.e. their heels are slightly higher than toes. With the balls of my feet on pegs it feels like my feet are flat i.e parallel with the ground. Is this odd?
For reference, I'm 6ft riding a standard 2008 Fireblade.
That I'd say is just a result of the length of your legs & how far the pegs are from the seat.Basically, I ride with balls of feet on pegs, as I find this most comfortable, less clumsy. Now when Im following someone, also riding on balls of feet, I can see some of the soles of their boots i.e. their heels are slightly higher than toes. With the balls of my feet on pegs it feels like my feet are flat i.e parallel with the ground. Is this odd?
For reference, I'm 6ft riding a standard 2008 Fireblade.
wee bit of an update....
so here I was on my first track day.
here is a few from my latest
Pretty crap isn’t it, well I was at my first of this year on Friday an here is my progress, taking the advice from some on here.
It’s not great I know but I’m my defence before Friday id only notched up 2 and a 1/2 hours track time in total and 70 percent of that had been in the wet, this was the first time id rode that bike on the track and first real ride since my crash 6 months ago. Right there is the racing excuses out of the way.....
My body seems a bit more “track” natural, I’m moving around more, dropping the shoulder and looking past the apex to the exit more on track.
However and this is a biggy, sometimes leaned over I’m struggling to get a grip of the tank (even with tank grips) to take my weight off the bars. A few times i actually could feel me countersteer the opposite way I needed due to this.
Any tips? Any improvements people can see I could make. think i need to drop my inside arm more and bring my outer arm across the tank and rest it.
Theres no real instruction on the days at knockhill but ive booked up for the niall mckenzie one next Monday so hopefully he can sort out my st riding.
so here I was on my first track day.
here is a few from my latest
Pretty crap isn’t it, well I was at my first of this year on Friday an here is my progress, taking the advice from some on here.
It’s not great I know but I’m my defence before Friday id only notched up 2 and a 1/2 hours track time in total and 70 percent of that had been in the wet, this was the first time id rode that bike on the track and first real ride since my crash 6 months ago. Right there is the racing excuses out of the way.....
My body seems a bit more “track” natural, I’m moving around more, dropping the shoulder and looking past the apex to the exit more on track.
However and this is a biggy, sometimes leaned over I’m struggling to get a grip of the tank (even with tank grips) to take my weight off the bars. A few times i actually could feel me countersteer the opposite way I needed due to this.
Any tips? Any improvements people can see I could make. think i need to drop my inside arm more and bring my outer arm across the tank and rest it.
Theres no real instruction on the days at knockhill but ive booked up for the niall mckenzie one next Monday so hopefully he can sort out my s
t riding. For my two-penneth, if you're struggling to grip the tank then you may not be carrying enough weight though your pegs or turning your hips in to the turn?
What's comfortable for me is, Brake, weight the inside peg, move across the bike and turn my hips/outside shoulder in the direction of travel, then I find my outside knee locks in. If I don't, my outside knee doesn't seem to click and I'm all twisted up....
Might be ste but might help
What's comfortable for me is, Brake, weight the inside peg, move across the bike and turn my hips/outside shoulder in the direction of travel, then I find my outside knee locks in. If I don't, my outside knee doesn't seem to click and I'm all twisted up....
Might be s
te but might help to be honest I think I should have got the stompy grips instead of the race tech ones, they arent great.
i started using the rear towards the end and my god it made such a difference for position it helped me stay propped back if you will under braking, ill try with the pegs and carry more weight there as that would have the same effect!
i started using the rear towards the end and my god it made such a difference for position it helped me stay propped back if you will under braking, ill try with the pegs and carry more weight there as that would have the same effect!
second set of pics look a decent improvement
The main reason you should ride balls of your feet on the pegs is so that you can easily transfer weight around the bike without using your hands/arms which are attached to the bars trying to steer the bike. The front wheel is actually all over the place, trying to follow the contours of the tarmac that gripping hold of the bars tightly to move yourself around will make it unstable.
I wouldn't stress about body position or what you look like in pics as long as your position allows you get your outside leg tight into the tank and peg to support all your body weight so you are light on the bars to steer the bike. You also need to make sure your body position allows you to get on the inside of the bike (your weight actually helps pull the bike round a corner at any given speed requiring less lean angle)
I am with you though, I wouldn't want it to be wet every time I was on track but I really do enjoy it once I am out there. If you can get quick in the wet the dry becomes easier for sure
The main reason you should ride balls of your feet on the pegs is so that you can easily transfer weight around the bike without using your hands/arms which are attached to the bars trying to steer the bike. The front wheel is actually all over the place, trying to follow the contours of the tarmac that gripping hold of the bars tightly to move yourself around will make it unstable.
I wouldn't stress about body position or what you look like in pics as long as your position allows you get your outside leg tight into the tank and peg to support all your body weight so you are light on the bars to steer the bike. You also need to make sure your body position allows you to get on the inside of the bike (your weight actually helps pull the bike round a corner at any given speed requiring less lean angle)
I am with you though, I wouldn't want it to be wet every time I was on track but I really do enjoy it once I am out there. If you can get quick in the wet the dry becomes easier for sure
I would say that with only a few hours of time on track before, the second set looks like you're picking it up really quickly. I think with a couple of sessions with a good instructor will get your form pretty much there. Ive probably done a dozen or so trackdays and would describe my pace as fast inters/slow fast group, on the last one I did, my Mrs got me a session with Tommy Hill (who is a really nice guy BTW) as a late Xmas gift, that one 20min session gave me a new outlook, I was moving my upper body, but not lower body (opposite to you in first pic), he gave me a few tips, improvements to corners I was struggling on, and lines. Instantly took 2secs/lap and for the first time could consistently get my knee down for more than a brief touch, in the fast group I wasnt the slowest one out there for a change. Dont worry too much about getting your knee down, Ive managed to lap people in a session who have their knee on the deck at every corner, with me never touching mine down. Nice Daytona BTW
Niall Mackenzie track day is booked for this coming Monday, I actually cant wait I heard John McGuinness is going to be there (though that's probably rubbish) that would be great though, im hoping he can show me the "right" way to ride. As I said id only done 3 trackdays before Friday and ive only been riding 3 years so I want to get rid of bad habits now.
ill never be a riding God but I don't want to look like a dick out on a Das lesson on the track bolt up right everywhere holding every one up
sorry I should stop teasing now or he wont come to the track with me again
ill never be a riding God but I don't want to look like a dick out on a Das lesson on the track bolt up right everywhere holding every one up
sorry I should stop teasing now or he wont come to the track with me again
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