Remind me not to press this button.....

Remind me not to press this button.....

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Bincenzo

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2,606 posts

180 months

Tuesday 25th June 2013
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This may have been seen before, but check this out. yikes

http://youtu.be/BvHxqYDWe6M


Xav AM 97

60 posts

131 months

Tuesday 25th June 2013
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Saw it a while ago but still makes me angry that they are almost pleased about the crash. Aston need to put a light on the traction control button because I never know whether it is off or on, is there any way of telling?

IanV12VR

2,749 posts

156 months

Tuesday 25th June 2013
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Xav AM 97 said:
Saw it a while ago but still makes me angry that they are almost pleased about the crash. Aston need to put a light on the traction control button because I never know whether it is off or on, is there any way of telling?
You need to make a conscious decision to turn the traction control off - on as standard and I do not think you can turn it off accidentally. Don't you have to hold the button down for 3 or 5 seconds to disengage?

Cockernee

3,059 posts

161 months

Tuesday 25th June 2013
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Bincenzo said:
This may have been seen before, but check this out. yikes

http://youtu.be/BvHxqYDWe6M
It has Mark and DSC can't save you if you are an idiot and enter a corner too fast sadly.... I believe he held down the 'LOT' button also. 'Lack Of Talent' that is, often pressed on entry into a corner yes

Bincenzo

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2,606 posts

180 months

Tuesday 25th June 2013
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I remember posting up some time ago asking whether people generally drove without driver aids. I, incidentally, don't because I'm not confident enough to do so. I reckon he should have thought the same thing. What a chimp.

Cockernee

3,059 posts

161 months

Tuesday 25th June 2013
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Bincenzo said:
I remember posting up some time ago asking whether people generally drove without driver aids. I, incidentally, don't because I'm not confident enough to do so. I reckon he should have thought the same thing. What a chimp.
I understand that only a minority switch them off whistle

Xav AM 97

60 posts

131 months

Tuesday 25th June 2013
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IanV12VR said:
You need to make a conscious decision to turn the traction control off - on as standard and I do not think you can turn it off accidentally. Don't you have to hold the button down for 3 or 5 seconds to disengage?
I'm not sure because we only get wheel spin after having pressed the button, the only way that I have been able to tell is if you floor it from stand still and see whether the wheels spin or not. Either way not having a light is a bit of a pain.

Bincenzo

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2,606 posts

180 months

Tuesday 25th June 2013
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Xav, surely there Is a warning or a light? Cockers, if you did, say, drive a lot without the DSC, how would it present itself on the dash?

V12woollie

4,363 posts

146 months

Tuesday 25th June 2013
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There are three modes on the V12V. Off, track and on. You have to hold the button for about three seconds to go from on to track and again for three seconds to go from track to off. From off to on is immediate as soon as you press the button.

There is a message on the dash that states which mode you have selected. From my perspective, anyone who is not trained properly and who sets it to off in a V12 when driving on public roads (especially if in Sport mode) is asking for an accident to happen.

kalibre46

278 posts

132 months

Tuesday 25th June 2013
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Bincenzo said:
Xav, surely there Is a warning or a light? Cockers, if you did, say, drive a lot without the DSC, how would it present itself on the dash?
I've driven a few times with it off (whilst troubleshooting my over-zealous DSC light issue). You have to hold it down for a bloody long time before it turns off and then the DSC light is on constantly on the dash to remind you.

Jockman

17,917 posts

161 months

Tuesday 25th June 2013
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Then it comes back on in default position when you restart the engine smile

kalibre46

278 posts

132 months

Tuesday 25th June 2013
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Jockman said:
Then it comes back on in default position when you restart the engine smile
Yep. I admit I do find it quite fun to drive without it and find the limits of the car yourself. It's one of those buzzes that's great until it's not, as per the video. Here's a question, would your insurance be invalidated or not driving without DSC active???

Jockman

17,917 posts

161 months

Tuesday 25th June 2013
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kalibre46 said:
Yep. I admit I do find it quite fun to drive without it and find the limits of the car yourself. It's one of those buzzes that's great until it's not, as per the video. Here's a question, would your insurance be invalidated or not driving without DSC active???
Don't see why it should be. It is an optional setting after all. So long as you exercise due care and attention smile

kalibre46

278 posts

132 months

Tuesday 25th June 2013
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Jockman said:
Don't see why it should be. It is an optional setting after all. So long as you exercise due care and attention smile
Interesting to see what would happen in reality, I'd imagine a number of insurance companies would try to wriggle out of such a claim, especially when there was empirical evidence (like a selfie-youtube job) showing you turning it off.

Arming the alarm is technically optional, but I think you'd be dead in the insurance waters if it wasn't switched on when someone nicked it.

Jockman

17,917 posts

161 months

Tuesday 25th June 2013
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Your throttle usage is monitored by OBC anyway. The relevant authorities have access to this, though it is not calibrated to a sufficiently high level to corroborate, say, a speeding accusation smile

krisdelta

4,566 posts

202 months

Tuesday 25th June 2013
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Jockman said:
kalibre46 said:
Yep. I admit I do find it quite fun to drive without it and find the limits of the car yourself. It's one of those buzzes that's great until it's not, as per the video. Here's a question, would your insurance be invalidated or not driving without DSC active???
Don't see why it should be. It is an optional setting after all. So long as you exercise due care and attention smile
Like in the video.... very poor attitude from the folk in the film and very little ability to read the road.

Tony V12V

2,465 posts

153 months

Tuesday 25th June 2013
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Jockman said:
Your throttle usage is monitored by OBC anyway. The relevant authorities have access to this, though it is not calibrated to a sufficiently high level to corroborate, say, a speeding accusation smile
OBD even biggrin

Jockman

17,917 posts

161 months

Tuesday 25th June 2013
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Tony V12V said:
OBD even biggrin
4 letters, begins with a 'k' and ends in a 'b'.

You're not allowed to say 'kerb' smile

mikey k

13,011 posts

217 months

Tuesday 25th June 2013
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Tony V12V said:
Jockman said:
Your throttle usage is monitored by OBC anyway. The relevant authorities have access to this, though it is not calibrated to a sufficiently high level to corroborate, say, a speeding accusation smile
OBD even biggrin
a glitch in the matrix and askjockman.com fails wink

michael gould

5,691 posts

242 months

Wednesday 26th June 2013
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Xav AM 97 said:
Saw it a while ago but still makes me angry that they are almost pleased about the crash. Aston need to put a light on the traction control button because I never know whether it is off or on, is there any way of telling?
In fairness to him he looks like he's still in shock.....but it has nothing to do with holding down buttons or turning off traction control...he just lost it