The Official Arsenal - 12 x FA Cup Winners - Thread [Vol 3]

The Official Arsenal - 12 x FA Cup Winners - Thread [Vol 3]

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Alfahorn

7,758 posts

207 months

Sunday 20th April 2014
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scrubchub said:
Alfahorn said:
Please don't mention Bergkamp in the same breath as Ozil. I'm hopeful Ozil will come good, especially if we add the right players this summer. However, Ozil isnt fit to lace Bergkamps boots!
Rather unfair on Ozil there - he hasn't even finished his 1st season with us so we have no idea how he will end up compared to Bergkamp (my favourite ever Arsenal player by the way). Bergkamp didn't start as well as Ozil did in the first few months and by the end of season I expect their first year stats will be pretty similair. And just like Bergkamp's arrival heralded something of a new 'era' at the club - if Arsenal buy a player of Ozil quality every year then his arrival could be seen in the same light.

Maybe I'm just being overly optimistic but I have every confidence that Ozil will be a great player for Arsenal.
Bergkamp had a difficult first 7 games then scored his first 2 goals at home to Southampton IIRC and didn't look back Bergkamp went on to score 16 goals that season in all competitions. He had a far, far superior first season to Ozil.

I like Ozil, I think there is far more to come from him, however he will have to be very, very special to be better than Bergkamp in my opinion.

Cheib

23,110 posts

174 months

Sunday 20th April 2014
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Szczesny, Sagna, Mertesacker, Koscielny, Monreal, Arteta, Ramsey, Cazorla, Ozil, Podolski, Giroud

Decent looking team. IIRC that's the first time he's played started that three behind Giroud.


BlackLabel

13,251 posts

122 months

Sunday 20th April 2014
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Hull playing at a really high tempo here - can see them tiring big time in the second half. Great goal by Ramsey though, against the run of play really.

edit - all over now I reckon, what a great finisher Podolski is.

Edited by BlackLabel on Sunday 20th April 14:53

Trophybloo

1,207 posts

186 months

Sunday 20th April 2014
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Fotunately the logo on Long's shirt doesn't read 'Chance Converters'. smile
Need a few more to pull the GD away from the Toffees. (Damn, the rare occasion I want Salford Unmentionables to win!)

BlackLabel

13,251 posts

122 months

Sunday 20th April 2014
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3-0. This is going to be 4 or 5 now.

Trophybloo

1,207 posts

186 months

Sunday 20th April 2014
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BlackLabel said:
3-0. This is going to be 4 or 5 now.
'His 2nd name's Podolski,Podolski,Podolski'

1st hat trick?

Trophybloo

1,207 posts

186 months

Sunday 20th April 2014
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BlackLabel said:
3-0. This is going to be 4 or 5 now.
'His 2nd name's Podolski,Podolski,Podolski'

1st hat trick?

gaz1234

5,233 posts

218 months

Sunday 20th April 2014
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title chance?

Trophybloo

1,207 posts

186 months

Sunday 20th April 2014
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gaz1234 said:
title chance?
Plural and spherical!

MrMagoo

3,208 posts

161 months

Sunday 20th April 2014
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Can't help but think what could have been If injuries hadn't hit us as hard as they have ...

gaz1234

5,233 posts

218 months

Sunday 20th April 2014
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MrMagoo said:
Can't help but think what could have been If injuries hadn't hit us as hard as they have ...
na. maybe if you got suarez

Cheib

23,110 posts

174 months

Sunday 20th April 2014
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Funny old world. Ozil and Ramsey back and we look a much better side.

Maybe my calls for a sense of perspective in the face of a crippling injury list weren't so far wide of the mark.

Alfahorn

7,758 posts

207 months

Sunday 20th April 2014
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Cheib said:
Funny old world. Ozil and Ramsey back and we look a much better side.

Maybe my calls for a sense of perspective in the face of a crippling injury list weren't so far wide of the mark.
Feeling smug are we?

The fact remains we need to ask why we suffer so many injuries? why we didn't strengthen when we needed to? How much would we have acheived if we had a world class centre forward? How things could have been different of we had more pace? What could have been acheived if we had a manager who understands the need to adopt different strategies/tactics?

We played particularly well once we took the lead, we controlled the game from that point forward. Come the summer it is time for change as once again we seem to get results in the league when the pressure to some degree is off us.

MrMagoo

3,208 posts

161 months

Sunday 20th April 2014
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Cheib said:
Funny old world. Ozil and Ramsey back and we look a much better side.

Maybe my calls for a sense of perspective in the face of a crippling injury list weren't so far wide of the mark.
Indeed. The fact is though that we shouldn't have gone into the season with such a small squad. Everyone could see we needed depth yet nothing was done.

Alfahorn

7,758 posts

207 months

Sunday 20th April 2014
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MrMagoo said:
Indeed. The fact is though that we shouldn't have gone into the season with such a small squad. Everyone could see we needed depth yet nothing was done.
Agreed.

Black can man

31,816 posts

167 months

Sunday 20th April 2014
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Ramsey & Podolski were terific today, another dissappointing show from the £43M man, Must be a worry for Wenger

Alfahorn

7,758 posts

207 months

Sunday 20th April 2014
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Black can man said:
Ramsey & Podolski were terific today, another dissappointing show from the £43M man, Must be a worry for Wenger
I'll be more worried if we don't sign the right players in the summer to get the best from Ozil.

Yes, Ramsey & Podolski were excellent.

Trophybloo

1,207 posts

186 months

Sunday 20th April 2014
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Happy with today's performance but still of the opinion that a Wenger-managed Arsenal will not win rhe Prem again. The missing players was a factor that a decent tactician could've countered. To have haemorraged goals against sides that have subsequently struggled to score against Palace speaks volumes.

Alfahorn

7,758 posts

207 months

Sunday 20th April 2014
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Trophybloo said:
Happy with today's performance but still of the opinion that a Wenger-managed Arsenal will not win rhe Prem again. The missing players was a factor that a decent tactician could've countered. To have haemorraged goals against sides that have subsequently struggled to score against Palace speaks volumes.
Absolutely spot on. Unfortunately, the apologists just don't see it.

melvster

6,841 posts

184 months

Sunday 20th April 2014
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Trophybloo said:
Happy with today's performance but still of the opinion that a Wenger-managed Arsenal will not win rhe Prem again. The missing players was a factor that a decent tactician could've countered. To have haemorraged goals against sides that have subsequently struggled to score against Palace speaks volumes.
Whilst it was a good performance today especially from Ramsey and Podolski we are still too far away from winning the title with the current squad. Experience needs to be brought in rather than some young hopefuls with little or no experience of top flight or champions leage football.
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