questions for Newfoundland owners

questions for Newfoundland owners

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smiffy180

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6,018 posts

151 months

Saturday 29th June 2013
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Well the obvious one is good dog to choose?
There is always one of us in the house unless shopping (otherwise the dog can come with us for anything else). Which I've heard is good as they need attention.

Are they expensive to feed? I've read different amounts online - one cup a day being the most quoted which seems little?

Anything you can add good/bad experience

We've seen a slightly cross bred puppy that's been bred not to drool, the mothers hip score is 0:2.

Cheers smile



Simpo Two

85,514 posts

266 months

Saturday 29th June 2013
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Call it Teaser. Then you can experience 'The Leaning Power of Teaser'.

smiffy180

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6,018 posts

151 months

Saturday 29th June 2013
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Haha we haven't concluded on a name yet. So many names for such a big dog smile

Jasandjules

69,922 posts

230 months

Sunday 30th June 2013
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They drool a lot - it is like superglue. You will find it on the ceiling and up the walls. They can be very lazy, or quite active. Ours would go more than 30 mins on a walk (she'd just stop and wait for us to collect her on our return leg).

Some can jump (the mother of ours would clear a 6ft fence to eat pond fish from next door), some won't (ours would be trapped by a 1ft picket fence - I kid you not, that is what we used in our garden to block it off).

They need regular grooming - or else. Food - not too much but we fed raw (which I would suggest).

Please also look into vaccination damage as that is why we think ours got cancer.

Check the eyes for ectropian (or entro).


highflyer

1,898 posts

227 months

Sunday 30th June 2013
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Smiffy if you are anywhere near to shropshire go down to Dearnford lake today, they are doing a newfoundland water rescue weekend there, we were watching them yesterday, some beautiful dogs look just like big woolly bears.
There was one dog they put in the water with a flotation aid, to swim out and rescue a woman who was in the middle of the lake and on the other side of the lake was a guy kneeling in a small boat with a big telephoto lens on his camera ready to take some photos of the rescue, despite the woman thrashing about in the water shouting HELP the dog swam right past her straight to the guy in the boat on the other side, it transpired it was his dog, so they have great eyesight, and faithful, got to say it was bloody funny,

smiffy180

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6,018 posts

151 months

Sunday 30th June 2013
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@Jasandjules, thanks. This breed has been bred not to drool though so that saves that part but will look inti rest.

Unfortunately I'm down in Devon this weekend so cant otherwise I would

mybrainhurts

90,809 posts

256 months

Sunday 30th June 2013
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smiffy180 said:
the mother's....
Good job you didn't say bh...

Damn...

highflyer

1,898 posts

227 months

Sunday 30th June 2013
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None of the doge were drooling at the event
and one person I spoke to feeds 3 mugs a day of dried food 1 in the morning 2 at night with some tin food so not too expensive I would imagine.

mybrainhurts

90,809 posts

256 months

Sunday 30th June 2013
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Never heard of these dogs before, so I just did a search.

Blimey...you could put a saddle on some of them. Look like a cross between a gorilla and a Labrador..hehe

I'm liking the idea now, I reckon they'd be able to eat my ex's little yappers...hehe


Jasandjules

69,922 posts

230 months

Sunday 30th June 2013
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smiffy180 said:
@Jasandjules, thanks. This breed has been bred not to drool though so that saves that part but will look inti rest.

Unfortunately I'm down in Devon this weekend so cant otherwise I would
Well, that's as maybe - what were the adults like?

I am as a rule not fond of cross-breeding in this way. What were they bred against to not drool? Leos?

The previous Newfies were being bred for the show ring as quite small (think no bigger than a GSD) but It seems that is reversing a little now.

smiffy180

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6,018 posts

151 months

Sunday 30th June 2013
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Jasandjules said:
Well, that's as maybe - what were the adults like?

I am as a rule not fond of cross-breeding in this way. What were they bred against to not drool? Leos?

The previous Newfies were being bred for the show ring as quite small (think no bigger than a GSD) but It seems that is reversing a little now.
Here's the ad: http://m.preloved.co.uk/m/showadvert/108284913/new...

As I'm not an expert on dogs (and don't particularly want to pay £1500 for a pedigree type one) these seem ideal?.

bucksmanuk

2,311 posts

171 months

Sunday 30th June 2013
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My sisters got one
He does eat as much as any other VERY big dog. He’s 13.5 stone after all, but not as much you would think.
He drools, and as others have said, its goes everywhere, and stains brass door handles – don’t ask….
He isn’t that keen on swimming, although he does like a paddle on the beach. Others can swim and swim and swim.
He will sit on your feet, and not let you go, and at 13.5 stone, well… you don’t!
Needs grooming properly, and he goes to a professional for it. 4 hours of serious effort.
He is one of the friendliest dogs you will ever meet and loves everyone.
Very good at playing dumb when he wants to, but has my sister and BiL thoroughly trained now.
Excellent with small children, as long as they remember to get out of the way when he’s at speed.
Immensely strong dog, at 3 years of age he pulled me over on the lead and dragged me down the beach on my stomach. I’m on the wrong side of 15 stone….
They do suffer with the eye problem as noted above. Expensive to get fixed.
Just walk one past some shops and watch all the women come out and cuddle him. Best pick up attachment ever invented!
He’s 10 now, very slow, yet incredibly cunning, but my sister doesn’t think he will see Christmas this year I’m going to miss him.cry

Jasandjules

69,922 posts

230 months

Sunday 30th June 2013
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smiffy180 said:
Here's the ad: http://m.preloved.co.uk/m/showadvert/108284913/new...

As I'm not an expert on dogs (and don't particularly want to pay £1500 for a pedigree type one) these seem ideal?.
To be frank I would steer clear. But then I don't think labradoodles etc should be bred, as I said I am not a fan of crosses. I also don't like to read Newfie/Landseer - a Newfie should have the broad/deep chest etc and webbed feet.

I have no idea what genetic defects could come down those lines. If you want a Newfie get a Newfie.

What attracts you to a Newfie? I may be able to find you some good breeders (my breeder is no longer breeding). Or an alternative breed - Leo maybe?

smiffy180

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6,018 posts

151 months

Sunday 30th June 2013
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Jasandjules said:
To be frank I would steer clear. But then I don't think labradoodles etc should be bred, as I said I am not a fan of crosses. I also don't like to read Newfie/Landseer - a Newfie should have the broad/deep chest etc and webbed feet.

I have no idea what genetic defects could come down those lines. If you want a Newfie get a Newfie.

What attracts you to a Newfie? I may be able to find you some good breeders (my breeder is no longer breeding). Or an alternative breed - Leo maybe?
Being 6'3 and 22 stone weight lifter I don't want a tiny dog that'll make me look gay laugh
My grandad had a st Bernard and I loved it. I've had a labrador in the past but I'm fond for big dogs. Then again anything I have/want tends to be large biggrin
I don't mind a proper newfie it's just the initial price that puts me off

Jasandjules

69,922 posts

230 months

Sunday 30th June 2013
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smiffy180 said:
Being 6'3 and 22 stone weight lifter I don't want a tiny dog that'll make me look gay laugh
My grandad had a st Bernard and I loved it. I've had a labrador in the past but I'm fond for big dogs. Then again anything I have/want tends to be large biggrin
I don't mind a proper newfie it's just the initial price that puts me off
Ok.

That is fine, it needs to be a big hound then. A Leonberger is similar (not sure of prices but again I can help point you to some breeders), not as "drooly", good temperaments too.

These dogs do also need some serious grooming or else they get all sorts of problems.

I'd say better to wait for the ideal dog than get a cross (IMHO). Also if you will insure could you even get a price for those puppies?

smiffy180

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6,018 posts

151 months

Sunday 30th June 2013
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Jasandjules said:
Ok.

That is fine, it needs to be a big hound then. A Leonberger is similar (not sure of prices but again I can help point you to some breeders), not as "drooly", good temperaments too.

These dogs do also need some serious grooming or else they get all sorts of problems.

I'd say better to wait for the ideal dog than get a cross (IMHO). Also if you will insure could you even get a price for those puppies?
Good question I haven't looked yet. Will look when I get in
£1000 really is too much but if we can't get anything less then we will consider.

andym1603

1,812 posts

173 months

Sunday 30th June 2013
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Ever thought about a Great Dane. Large dog, very little grooming, some drool, others don't (as much) and very good temperment.

bexVN

14,682 posts

212 months

Sunday 30th June 2013
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I really don't know how anyone can promise that by part crossing a breed they will make a dog 'non drooly'. It's like claiming labradoodles don't moult (this was the claim made for mixing the breeds in the first place) It is not true!

I'm not against mixing breeds of good health in general (ie no hereditary traits) we have breeds today in the kennel club that were a result of mixing breeds etc but I do think charging several hundred pound for what is essentially a crossbreed is a disgrace, then again if people are prepared to pay these ridiculous prices, what do we expect.

Leonbergers are a great breed, really would look into this breed smile

bexVN

14,682 posts

212 months

Sunday 30th June 2013
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Meant to say Newfies are a lovely dog but few things, they vary from completely docile to hyperactive!! They need a lot of grooming. You really need to be careful with them in the heat, they are large, black and thick coated not a good combination. Unbelievably people will walk these breeds in the midday sun, I have seen a newfie die of heatstroke due to this.

Females (preferably both parents) should be tested to ensure they are free of a condition cystinuria check this has been done. At least a cross will prevent this as I believe both parents have to be a carrier to pass it on to offspring.

Cost - of course they will cost considerably more for everything than eg a Jack Russell, but I hope potential owners of large breeds will realise this!

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smiffy180

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6,018 posts

151 months

Sunday 30th June 2013
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Will look at Leonburgers too as it's been mentioned a couple times now
andym1603 said:
Ever thought about a Great Dane. Large dog, very little grooming, some drool, others don't (as much) and very good temperment.
OH wants something fluffy