Buying a 997S Stateside

Buying a 997S Stateside

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GMMK1221

Original Poster:

101 posts

237 months

Wednesday 13th October 2004
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One for the dreamers maybe, but I'm off to NYC soon and for a bit of fun went to the Porsche US website and specced up a 997S to a HUGE degree eg sports exhaust, sports chrono pack, full leather, sports seats, bose, sat nav etc. Came out at $89K which is £50K. It also comes with factory pick up. So, what is stopping me buying one when I'm over there, picking it up in Stuttgart, paying my £8750 in VAT and saving myself £20K into the bargain?

abarber

1,686 posts

242 months

Wednesday 13th October 2004
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It will then obviously come with SUV suspension, bumper addons, supersized cup holders and weigh 20kgs due to the necessary warning stickers

silver993tt

9,064 posts

240 months

Wednesday 13th October 2004
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Won't have EU certificate of conformity

AC79xxx

62,260 posts

250 months

Wednesday 13th October 2004
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Shirley you can buy a c16 spec stateside, tick the factory collection box and be quids in

phelix

4,440 posts

250 months

Thursday 14th October 2004
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I have vague recollections that a US buyer who opts for European delivery has to post some sort of bond to cover the VAT as he/she is effectively receiving goods in Europe (if only temporarily) without paying VAT.

And if you suceeded you might have trouble proving ownership; Porsche AG would be unlikely to give you anything other than temporary registration paperwork while in Europe. You wouldn't get proof of ownership (title, as is called in America) until the car arrives in the US.

cyrus1971

855 posts

240 months

Thursday 14th October 2004
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Sounds like an excellent idea and if you could find a dealer in the US willing to spec up a UK car even better. Even pay him over the odds for a little "motivation" Regardsing titel : Possession is 9/10 of the law so reciept of sale, sundry documetation and travel plates from Germany is sufficient to establish good title in the UK. Title in US need never be established.

GMMK1221

Original Poster:

101 posts

237 months

Thursday 14th October 2004
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But once in Europe wouldn't the car be subject to free movement of goods and services? Also why wouldn't it have an EU certificate if it is delivered here, surely it must do? One problem of course would be the Porsche warranty. I'll speak to Porsche Manhattan and get back to you.

superlightr

12,856 posts

264 months

Thursday 14th October 2004
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interesting, Im sure they dont have 2 production lines one that conforms to Europe Legislation and one for the US.

Whats the cost differece for a right hand spec ordered via a German opc perhaps? then a uK opc?

phelix

4,440 posts

250 months

Friday 15th October 2004
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I don't know for certain but I suspect there are differences between RoW spec and US spec. Potential examples:
- ride height in the US may be higher due to federal bumper legislation.
- US air bags are typically bigger as they are designed to protect occupants who are not wearing seatbelts whereas euro airbags are designed to work in conjunction with seat belts.
- headlamps may be different (not just LHD vs RHD) to meet federal regs

So an EU conformity certificate is unlikely to be issued by Porsche. But SVA should be quite easy with minimal mods required.

I doubt very much you could order a UK spec car through a US dealer. It wouldn't meet US regs and there is no reason why Porsche NA would give US dealers access to that spec.

Not trying to rain on anyone's parade but pointing out the realities as I know them. I spent 20+ years in the US of A...