Foxes under my decking.

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croyde

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22,950 posts

231 months

Saturday 6th July 2013
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This fella has been using a hole to get under the decking. I waited until he was out and blocked it up and continued with working in the kitchen. I heard a noise thinking it was one of the kittens/cats and turned around to find the little fella standing behind me giving me this look that just said "Where do I go now".

Last night we were awoken by this god awful screaming.

I went out into the garden and there was a lot of frantic scrabbling under the decking. Realising that there must of been more than one young fox I unblocked the hole but in it's panic it managed to dig under the lawn and popped up in the flower bed and ran off.

I filled the hole in but this morning there is a new tunnel in the soil and I presume they are back under there again for a daytime kip.

Cute as they are, we only have a tiny garden here in SW London, and fox poop is disgusting and I'm worried about the cats, who are only 6 months old.

Any ideas on evicting the foxes? They are about the size of a fully grown cat.

Mobile Chicane

20,842 posts

213 months

Saturday 6th July 2013
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The population density of urban foxes being so high, you could evict one lot only to have another move in.

Decking is the fox equivalent of a luxury apartment with secure gated parking - I'd get rid of it if I were you.

clarkmagpie

3,560 posts

196 months

Saturday 6th July 2013
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Slightly against what most people think but, I'd love some foxes in the garden smile
Proper entertainment to watch.
Having them for real though, I'd maybe be fed up!w

croyde

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231 months

Saturday 6th July 2013
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I used the hose pipe to 'clean' the deck and the two foxes got a bit fed up and bugged out. I've bricked up the current easy way in and out but I have found one of them with a place behind the shed up against the neighbour's fence. I scared it off with a squirty bottle of water but the area is strewn with collected rubbish and poop.

Apparently 5 were born in the spring and are reeking a little havoc across all the gardens.

Wigeon Incognito

3,271 posts

219 months

Saturday 6th July 2013
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As above getting rid of the decking is the only sure way. You could lift some of the decking, leave it up for a couple of weeks so their shelter is gone and they move on, then reinstate it but bury mesh in the ground around it so they can't dig back under it - like fox proofing an aviary.

soad

32,903 posts

177 months

Saturday 6th July 2013
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Shoot them? getmecoat

dudleybloke

19,846 posts

187 months

Saturday 6th July 2013
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soad said:
Shoot them? getmecoat
guns for show, knives for a pro.

croyde

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22,950 posts

231 months

Saturday 6th July 2013
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My 7 year old has just said that there is something with a furry tail under his bed. It's one of the young foxes and terrified. Took ages with a broom to coax it out and give it an escape run down the stairs and out into the garden.

It's pooped under there as well. Feking stinks frown

croyde

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231 months

Saturday 6th July 2013
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soad said:
Shoot them? getmecoat
My neighbour is all for this but apparently they are not considered pests. £5000 fine and 6 months in stir if you kill one.

VinceFox

20,566 posts

173 months

Saturday 6th July 2013
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Thank you for not having them killed.

Gargamel

14,996 posts

262 months

Saturday 6th July 2013
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croyde said:
My neighbour is all for this but apparently they are not considered pests. £5000 fine and 6 months in stir if you kill one.
Think Defra class them as Vermin, you can shoot them anywhere you have permission to shoot (ie your own land)

However a small garden in the Burbs may not be the ideal place to start going at it with a 12 gauge.

croyde

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231 months

Saturday 6th July 2013
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Got a .22 air rifle but I think that'll just p!55 it off biggrin

Wigeon Incognito

3,271 posts

219 months

Saturday 6th July 2013
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soad said:
Shoot them? getmecoat
There's no point, if these foxes move out more will just move in as the territory will be empty. You just need to sort out the decking, if they have nowhere to hide they'll soon vacate and find another den.

ali_kat

31,992 posts

222 months

Saturday 6th July 2013
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If you'd have left well alone they'd not have been scared, run into the house to hide or dug up the flower bed wink

Your cats are already existing with them, as the cubs grow they'll be fine (mine used to play with them smile )

The poop is just as annoying as what your cats will do too wink blast it with the hose pipe to rid it

croyde

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231 months

Saturday 6th July 2013
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hehe

I've ended up with poop on my face Ali.

Japveesix

4,481 posts

169 months

Saturday 6th July 2013
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Does seem that you're basically giving yourself a host of other problems by disturbing them so much. A few more days/weeks and they would all have dispersed anyway.

Instead you've now got terrified homeless fox cubs cowering in your childrens bedroom and distressed adults and cubs screaming because they're seperated etc.

Doubt they'd have any problems with your cats anyway. Tens of thousands of cats/foxes seem to co-exist quite happily in this country so I imagine yours would as well. Infact with such close proximity they'd probably have a better awareness of foxes than many cats.

TheHeretic

73,668 posts

256 months

Saturday 6th July 2013
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If they aren't doing any harm, leave them where they are. They are fascinating to watch. I have a few that roam through the garden here, (when the cats aren't about. The cats chase the buggers), and they are actually lovely creatures. I can sit out on my swing seat of hammock, and they will happily saunter past presumably because they are used to me.

Nature is awesome, try to embrace it, rather than chase it off.

Black can man

31,840 posts

169 months

Saturday 6th July 2013
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Decking is a haven for Foxes, rats & mice , bloody awful stuff

soad

32,903 posts

177 months

Saturday 6th July 2013
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Black can man said:
Decking is a haven for Foxes, rats & mice , bloody awful stuff
I didn't realise that, but true enough. Provides a safe shelter.

ali_kat

31,992 posts

222 months

Saturday 6th July 2013
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croyde said:
hehe

I've ended up with poop on my face Ali.
Oops hehe