Viezu Remap 996TT

Viezu Remap 996TT

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jonamv8

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3,145 posts

165 months

Tuesday 9th July 2013
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Viezu remapped my Aston. Good service no issues and decent gains.

Been speaking to them about a map on my 6TT. Anyone had their turbo done by them? Price seems reasonable, car only has a cold air induction kit on it at present

jonamv8

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3,145 posts

165 months

Wednesday 10th July 2013
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FYI

499 inc Vat

60 BHP
90 NM

BavarianBiturbo

98 posts

172 months

Thursday 11th July 2013
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go to 9E end of story!!

jonamv8

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3,145 posts

165 months

Thursday 11th July 2013
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Any idea what 9E charge?

s3nick

710 posts

218 months

Thursday 11th July 2013
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I think its around 2k but Ken will chime in soon.

jonamv8

Original Poster:

3,145 posts

165 months

Monday 15th July 2013
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What are 9E going to do for £2k that Viezu won't do for £500?

dank

1,154 posts

251 months

Monday 15th July 2013
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So is £500 just the map with no other work

I think 9E do other upgrades to other bits as well as the map!?

rimkah

1,057 posts

165 months

Monday 15th July 2013
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I think fearnsport charge £600 just for the map so sounds about right.

Never heard of Viezu.

Spy

1,302 posts

206 months

Monday 15th July 2013
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You may want to check the actual price 9E would charge for a remap as compared to say their 9E40 upgrade package that includes other upgrades.

For a remap, I believe that before applying a remap, a reputable tuner would run a number of diagnostics and checks on your car first to ensure that there are no pending issues which a remap would exasperate. After applying the remap, they would then tweak it to ensure it is optimised for your specific car.

The above should be done by any reputable tuning specialist as opposed to just applying a standard map without any checks beforehand or tweaking afterwards.

dank

1,154 posts

251 months

Monday 15th July 2013
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After reading some other posts, seems a Fearnsport remap is £650, doens this mean no other components, ie/ clutch, etc need upgrading?

If I could get 490 / 500 bhp from the remap, with no worries about buggering the clutch etc, then that seems pretty good bang for the bucks.... will this have any implications on the car in the future though?

Assuming it can be remapped back to standard come sale time...


Nineexcellence

1,931 posts

174 months

Monday 15th July 2013
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Over 80% of turbos whether 996 or 997 are not running the pressure system at the optimal level. If you want to put on a standard map on top, then frankly you are wasting your money. Maybe you will get lucky who knows.

All I can say is that we have your car in for a week to do our tuning. I give you an example last week - 997 turbo in for tuning and to fit a customer supplied sports exhaust. 2 hours into our checks, the n/s turbo to intercooler hose upon being removed us full of oil. End of tuning - can you imagine running more load through a car that the check valve is not functioning on. So new valve fitted, resume checks and eventually tuning is completed after pressure tests, data logging and so on. Result - a happy customer.

I won't list all the checks because there are things we do that makes a difference.

We produce the fastest turbos in the UK with the 9e17 hitting 215gps ( and winning) at the German shoot out challenge recently. All our r&d goes back into all our packages, including the 9e40 for example. We are currently building a 9e car that will be over 240gps.

We are (probably) the most expensive, but then there is a reason for that.

Ken

RWD cossie wil

4,295 posts

172 months

Monday 15th July 2013
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9e17!!! Jesus h.....biggrin

jonamv8

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3,145 posts

165 months

Tuesday 16th July 2013
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Nineexcellence said:
Over 80% of turbos whether 996 or 997 are not running the pressure system at the optimal level. If you want to put on a standard map on top, then frankly you are wasting your money. Maybe you will get lucky who knows.

All I can say is that we have your car in for a week to do our tuning. I give you an example last week - 997 turbo in for tuning and to fit a customer supplied sports exhaust. 2 hours into our checks, the n/s turbo to intercooler hose upon being removed us full of oil. End of tuning - can you imagine running more load through a car that the check valve is not functioning on. So new valve fitted, resume checks and eventually tuning is completed after pressure tests, data logging and so on. Result - a happy customer.

I won't list all the checks because there are things we do that makes a difference.

We produce the fastest turbos in the UK with the 9e17 hitting 215gps ( and winning) at the German shoot out challenge recently. All our r&d goes back into all our packages, including the 9e40 for example. We are currently building a 9e car that will be over 240gps.

We are (probably) the most expensive, but then there is a reason for that.

Ken
Sounds very thorough and agree with what you are saying. Can you confirm on costs though? What if you did get lucky and nothing needed replacing? Is it a case of you confirm cost when you review the car?

Nineexcellence

1,931 posts

174 months

Tuesday 16th July 2013
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jonamv8 said:
Nineexcellence said:
Over 80% of turbos whether 996 or 997 are not running the pressure system at the optimal level. If you want to put on a standard map on top, then frankly you are wasting your money. Maybe you will get lucky who knows.

All I can say is that we have your car in for a week to do our tuning. I give you an example last week - 997 turbo in for tuning and to fit a customer supplied sports exhaust. 2 hours into our checks, the n/s turbo to intercooler hose upon being removed us full of oil. End of tuning - can you imagine running more load through a car that the check valve is not functioning on. So new valve fitted, resume checks and eventually tuning is completed after pressure tests, data logging and so on. Result - a happy customer.

I won't list all the checks because there are things we do that makes a difference.

We produce the fastest turbos in the UK with the 9e17 hitting 215gps ( and winning) at the German shoot out challenge recently. All our r&d goes back into all our packages, including the 9e40 for example. We are currently building a 9e car that will be over 240gps.

We are (probably) the most expensive, but then there is a reason for that.

Ken
Sounds very thorough and agree with what you are saying. Can you confirm on costs though? What if you did get lucky and nothing needed replacing? Is it a case of you confirm cost when you review the car?
We have a fixed price. Don't think it is appropriate for me to post that but clearly someone else can if they contact me.

If we look at say the pressure system - there are two parts of course if you add the vacuum side, we take 2 hours to boost leak check the car. But that includes cracking pressures and several other checks. If we fix it within that time, no additional charge. If it needs major parts e.g. new DVs, then the customer pays for those parts. If it needs say new sections of hoses, then no charge - it really depends on what needs replacing - if the parts are minimal then it is part of the service.

I have heard others say that a boost leak check can be done quicker. Well not if you are removing the rear bumper so you can spray the whole of the intercooler housings etc. We pressurise to 20psi for standard cars and go a lot higher on cars that run say 1.5bar+ for obvious reasons. If it holds pressure at 20psi, then you can still have a very small leak ( say 1% of the overall system ) - that still affects performance.

The vacuum side also affects performance. Is the MAF within tolerance on voltage etc. Loads of little things that together add up to performance.

Back to tuning, I have had cars that have taken us 3 days to get perfect. We have certain requirements such as plugs must have been changed beforehand (recently), that the cars must be on 99 fuel prior in the tank (no point in turning up with 95 in it) etc.

We guarantee performance, not bhp. We have set performance figures based on a certain test set of conditions that must be replicated. Maybe 0.5 second in 60-130 for example doesn't matter to some, but even if we are 0.2 seconds out we want an answer as to why. Just testing a car takes us 1 hour normally, and then we might have to test it 3 or 4 times for example.

And probably the most important thing - all our R&D tuning has been tested to at least 300kph. Every single package we have done has been tested to that.

Ken

Nineexcellence

1,931 posts

174 months

Tuesday 16th July 2013
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RWD cossie wil said:
9e17!!! Jesus h.....biggrin
That will be tame compared to this...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7IxR2EQO2B0

Ken

monthefish

20,439 posts

230 months

Tuesday 16th July 2013
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Nineexcellence said:
We have a fixed price. Don't think it is appropriate for me to post that
Why not?

rimkah

1,057 posts

165 months

Tuesday 16th July 2013
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monthefish said:
Nineexcellence said:
We have a fixed price. Don't think it is appropriate for me to post that
Why not?
And why no bhp figure when that is what a consumer compares?

jonamv8

Original Poster:

3,145 posts

165 months

Tuesday 16th July 2013
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monthefish said:
Why not?
Could be deemed as advertising his services which I can understand

Nineexcellence

1,931 posts

174 months

Tuesday 16th July 2013
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monthefish said:
Nineexcellence said:
We have a fixed price. Don't think it is appropriate for me to post that
Why not?
PH rules I'm afraid.

Nineexcellence

1,931 posts

174 months

Tuesday 16th July 2013
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rimkah said:
monthefish said:
Nineexcellence said:
We have a fixed price. Don't think it is appropriate for me to post that
Why not?
And why no bhp figure when that is what a consumer compares?
Cannot help you on that one.

The only way to judge performance on a boosted turbo car is on the road - 0-300kph minimum verified gps times. That is available for all tuners to do if they wish - all respected European mags do this now as a measure of true performance, hence since we compete in Europe why we have our 9E xx where xx = time to 300kph. Clearly if you have access to a proper engine dyno ( like RS tuning for example ) then you can get a true ( Porsche hp ).

Understand it is not easy in decision making and it is difficult when a potential customer tells me he can get 580hp from a remap from elsewhere, when I'm offering around 540-550ps using an exhaust, tuning, larger TB and plenum and y-pipe for example on a 997 Turbo.

Sorry but 3rd gear pull on a dyno for a boosted car means nothing.

Ken