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Fantuzzi

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Wednesday 10th July 2013
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Thought this would be a good place to put cool, interesting or important pics, your cars, cars you want (or need!), hell just a place to put cool stuff from Alfa, Lancia, Abarth, Fiat, Ferrari, Lamborghini, Maserati etc!



Sleeves rolled up, ready for a proper drive. Also love the license plate being very much an after thought!




Great period photo, goggles, Maserati 200si, mild oversteer. Very cool.




jacklewisno1

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Saturday 13th July 2013
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One i took a few weeks ago of my A500 biggrin

Fantuzzi

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Sunday 14th July 2013
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jacklewisno1 said:


One i took a few weeks ago of my A500 biggrin
That's a great picture, put it in black and white with only the badge in colour and its the sort of thing I used to see in TopGear magazine! Which had nice pics but awful reviews...




Seen a A6 in Harris' Mille miglia vid, for got how great they look

jacklewisno1

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143 months

Sunday 14th July 2013
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Hmm yes good idea. Im not a dab hand a photo shop but ill give it a pop sometime. Glad theres finally a thread for all italian cars not just Alfa's and Lancia's. I was beginning to feel a bit left out with no 'show us your Abarth's' thread!

A few pics of the Stratos i quite like....

73' Targa Florio. I like the way there just sat inches from the track.




Fantuzzi

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Sunday 14th July 2013
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jacklewisno1 said:
Hmm yes good idea. Im not a dab hand a photo shop but ill give it a pop sometime. Glad theres finally a thread for all italian cars not just Alfa's and Lancia's. I was beginning to feel a bit left out with no 'show us your Abarth's' thread!

A few pics of the Stratos i quite like....

73' Targa Florio. I like the way there just sat inches from the track.


That is a great picture, the Targa was pretty mad, even for a road race!

I remember watching a video where they followed the Alfa team in 73 I think, or 72, with the tipo 33s, with the drivers talking about the practice they did on open roads...gloriously mad times, will have to get over to Sicily and do the Florio my self, Although bit worried given it didn't have the best surface 4 years ago so I don't think mr 'oh no its a speed bump' here will like it as much as I hope...

On a side note, I think the Stratos is best viewed from the rear, one of the best kamm tails ever, so bare and basic, so perfect.

On the subject of nice rears, and nice abarths, heres one, 1000sp, love the no nonsense exhaust, so crude.


Hint hint abarth, you have done some of the best light racey cars of all, (1300 OT is a personal want...) DO A BLOODY TRACK DAY CAR!

500KG, low as a my knee and a that fiat formula 3 engine that you made and did nothing with (I think...).

Another awesome abarth with some people for height perspective...


Edited by Fantuzzi on Saturday 10th August 23:01

jacklewisno1

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143 months

Monday 15th July 2013
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I think the video your thinking of is The Speed Merchants. Its a great film following Alfa and Ferrari through the 72' World Sports Car Championship. In it Vic Elford talks about crashing into locals during practice.

Here's the clip http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eles2jD3VYs

As for the Stratos maybe you would prefer this pic then...



And as for the Abarth well there doesnt seem to be any sign of a track day car soon although originally i think the new Alfa 4c was penned in as an Abarth....



Having watched Chris Harris's latest vid on the Mille Miglia i wouldnt mind going to that.

Fantuzzi

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Monday 15th July 2013
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jacklewisno1 said:
I think the video your thinking of is The Speed Merchants. Its a great film following Alfa and Ferrari through the 72' World Sports Car Championship. In it Vic Elford talks about crashing into locals during practice.

Here's the clip http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eles2jD3VYs
Ha forgot to post the link to the video!

Yeah that's he one.

jacklewisno1 said:
As for the Stratos maybe you would prefer this pic then...

That pic is awesome, I think its the light-to-kamm ratio that works so well with the large lights.

jacklewisno1 said:
And as for the Abarth well there doesnt seem to be any sign of a track day car soon although originally i think the new Alfa 4c was penned in as an Abarth....

Sadly I wasn't under the impression Abarth were going to make a very focussed model, although that's a good point, a cf tub with a fibreglass body would be nice.

jacklewisno1 said:
Having watched Chris Harris's latest vid on the Mille Miglia i wouldnt mind going to that.
I share your thoughts, although its right behind the Vernasca silver flag and the Villa D'este Concorso.




jacklewisno1

376 posts

143 months

Tuesday 16th July 2013
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I do hope Abarth produce more than just Punto's and 500's. I think perhaps part of the problem is not many Abarth's have sold over here, so there may not be much of a market for them. Which is surprising when you consider the success of the Fiat 500.

I have to admit i'd never even heard of the Vernasca Silver Flag. But having had a look on the web it seems to be an outstanding event. Im surprised it doesn't seem to get a great deal of press. Or maybe i just live a sheltered life.

A few pics i found of the event which caught my eye....






Fantuzzi said:
Ha forgot to post the link to the video!

Yeah that's he one.
It's well worth buying the film and watching the rest if you haven't already!

Fantuzzi

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Tuesday 16th July 2013
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jacklewisno1 said:
I do hope Abarth produce more than just Punto's and 500's. I think perhaps part of the problem is not many Abarth's have sold over here, so there may not be much of a market for them. Which is surprising when you consider the success of the Fiat 500.
It would be a shame if they didn't do more with it than that, given Abarths history, an elise rival would be a nice touch, something that looks like a 1300 ot, mid engined 1.2/3, light weight - try and get it down to the 700kgs then the less power you need to match the 160 bhp per tonne of the Elise.

Not sure if you've seen this site, rather good, the music pause button is top right by the way...

http://www.bernimotori.com/

jacklewisno1 said:
I have to admit i'd never even heard of the Vernasca Silver Flag. But having had a look on the web it seems to be an outstanding event. Im surprised it doesn't seem to get a great deal of press. Or maybe i just live a sheltered life.

A few pics i found of the event which caught my eye....




Yeah I think one mag described it as the one classic car event that hadn't been spoilt by large crowds and safety regs, helmets are optional I believe!

I only noticed the event when I saw it in auto italia (not a big fan of the mag quite a few inaccuracies in their pieces) when flicking through it in a whsmiths, thought it looked like my cup of tea!
Fantuzzi said:
Ha forgot to post the link to the video!

Yeah that's he one.
jacklewisno1 said:
It's well worth buying the film and watching the rest if you haven't already!
I will have to look at getting the film on dvd, rather in enjoyed the youtube clip.


jacklewisno1

376 posts

143 months

Tuesday 16th July 2013
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A very lightweight track day Abarth would be cool. Unfortunatley they seem pre-occupied making special editions of the 500 at the moment.

Cheers for the website, theres so much i want on it!

The films definatley worth buying. It has many drivers from that period, including the likes of Helmut Marko. Someone i had previously only associated with Redbull F1 but who i now have a lot of respect for.

http://www.amazon.co.uk/The-Speed-Merchants-DVD/dp...

and heres the TopGear version of my Abarth badge....


Fantuzzi

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Wednesday 17th July 2013
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jacklewisno1 said:
A very lightweight track day Abarth would be cool. Unfortunatley they seem pre-occupied making special editions of the 500 at the moment.

Cheers for the website, theres so much i want on it!
I know, but that said, a 1300 ot went for 18000 a while ago at auction, the estimate was 100000-130000, so keep an eye on those no reserve auctions...

It can be a bit funny to use, and most of the mag articles and old brochures are in Italian, but its rather good.

jacklewisno1 said:
The films definatley worth buying. It has many drivers from that period, including the likes of Helmut Marko. Someone i had previously only associated with Redbull F1 but who i now have a lot of respect for.

http://www.amazon.co.uk/The-Speed-Merchants-DVD/dp...

Thanks will get that.

jacklewisno1 said:
and heres the TopGear version of my Abarth badge....

That looks brilliant, I take that's your new screensaver after all that photoshop work!

(I was going to say that's the best picture 'in the world' but refrained...)

Might try pouring some water on my Mr2s hood then videoing it in slow motion, maybe that's taking it too far...

We should rename the thread by the way, 'Fantuzzi and jacklewisno1 have a chat'.


jacklewisno1

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143 months

Wednesday 17th July 2013
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Im ashamed to admit i didnt photo shop it, but instead got somebody from the Abarthisti forum to do it for me. The computer with the software to do it is about 200 miles a way at the moment. So credit goes to Porthos from www.abarthforum.co.uk

Fantuzzi said:
That looks brilliant, I take that's your new screensaver after all that photoshop work!

(I was going to say that's the best picture 'in the world' but refrained...)

Yes maybe that is a bit over the top. But perhaps its the best Abarth Badge in black and white photo, thats been photo shopped 'In the world' ?

Ive also passed on the berni website to somebody who has an original 595ss and is looking for an original manual. So hopefully that will provide leads.

I dont think pouring water on your hood is that mad. My dad used to be a photographer and did similar things with good results. Ive thought about spraying water on the badge and taking photos before but never got round to it.

Yes i think that thread name is more appropriate, i feel as though i may have hijacked the thread a little and sent it off course.


Fantuzzi

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Saturday 20th July 2013
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jacklewisno1 said:
Im ashamed to admit i didnt photo shop it, but instead got somebody from the Abarthisti forum to do it for me. The computer with the software to do it is about 200 miles a way at the moment. So credit goes to Porthos from www.abarthforum.co.uk

Fantuzzi said:
That looks brilliant, I take that's your new screensaver after all that photoshop work!

(I was going to say that's the best picture 'in the world' but refrained...)

Yes maybe that is a bit over the top. But perhaps its the best Abarth Badge in black and white photo, thats been photo shopped 'In the world' ?

Ive also passed on the berni website to somebody who has an original 595ss and is looking for an original manual. So hopefully that will provide leads.

I dont think pouring water on your hood is that mad. My dad used to be a photographer and did similar things with good results. Ive thought about spraying water on the badge and taking photos before but never got round to it.

Yes i think that thread name is more appropriate, i feel as though i may have hijacked the thread a little and sent it off course.
The 'in the world' thing was more a reference at the topgear mag thing, as Clarkson said 'in the world' a lot.


jacklewisno1

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Sunday 21st July 2013
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Yeh i know. I was just joking!

Fantuzzi

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Sunday 21st July 2013
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jacklewisno1 said:
Yeh i know. I was just joking!
Ah right, woosh scorpion needed (see what I did there...).

Been looking at my uncles 240Z all day, got me thinking about this,

jacklewisno1

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143 months

Monday 22nd July 2013
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Fantuzzi said:
Ah right, woosh scorpion needed (see what I did there...).

Been looking at my uncles 240Z all day, got me thinking about this,
I couldnt work out what that car was at first. Thought it was a Ghibli at first or maybe an Espada....but then the penny dropped.

Beautiful looking thing, found a few on the classifieds. They appear to be fetching big money too 35k for this one...
http://www.pistonheads.com/classifieds/used-cars/a...
Not so sure about the mats though.

Although personally i'd rather get something more outrageous and go for one of these...
http://www.pistonheads.com/classifieds/used-cars/a...

Fantuzzi

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Monday 22nd July 2013
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jacklewisno1 said:
Fantuzzi said:
Ah right, woosh scorpion needed (see what I did there...).

Been looking at my uncles 240Z all day, got me thinking about this,
I couldnt work out what that car was at first. Thought it was a Ghibli at first or maybe an Espada....but then the penny dropped.

Beautiful looking thing, found a few on the classifieds. They appear to be fetching big money too 35k for this one...
http://www.pistonheads.com/classifieds/used-cars/a...
Not so sure about the mats though.

Although personally i'd rather get something more outrageous and go for one of these...
http://www.pistonheads.com/classifieds/used-cars/a...
Those mats are bizarre!

I think the Montreal is a little too pricey for what you can get for 25-30k. Especially as it wasn't meant to be very good at the time. But then it does have a tipo 33s v8 (well sort of)...

The SZ is definitely on my 'dangerous amount of want' list. Plus front engined, so I could fit my guitar in the back where the seats use to be.

Keeping with Alfas and Zagato



Also found this when on wiki



Im avoiding going on Alfaholics website incase I start phoning up and get some price estimates for something that looks like that...

jacklewisno1

376 posts

143 months

Tuesday 23rd July 2013
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Im sure you could get a custom made roof box for the guitar. Plus it would give you extra downforce biggrin

That white Alfa is gorgeous! Alfaholics is a great site for daydreaming about what i could buy if i decided to spend the house budget on a car.

Hopefully there will be a few examples this weekend at the Silverstone Classic to drool over.

On a more realistic note though, something like this really is very tempting. If only they were cheaper to run!
http://www.pistonheads.com/classifieds/used-cars/a...

Fantuzzi

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Thursday 25th July 2013
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jacklewisno1 said:
Im sure you could get a custom made roof box for the guitar. Plus it would give you extra downforce biggrin

That white Alfa is gorgeous! Alfaholics is a great site for daydreaming about what i could buy if i decided to spend the house budget on a car.

Hopefully there will be a few examples this weekend at the Silverstone Classic to drool over.
Turns out I might see you at the Silverstone classic my uncle cant go so I've, got a ticket now!

And there is a Tipo 33/2 there, perfect. As well as a load of GTAs in the U2TC. Oh and couple of Iso A3Cs and a Bizzarini. Oh and a Abarth 2000....




jacklewisno1

376 posts

143 months

Thursday 25th July 2013
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Fantuzzi said:
Turns out I might see you at the Silverstone classic my uncle cant go so I've, got a ticket now!

And there is a Tipo 33/2 there, perfect. As well as a load of GTAs in the U2TC. Oh and couple of Iso A3Cs and a Bizzarini. Oh and a Abarth 2000....
Cool! Ill be with the Abarthisti car club stand next to the national paddock. White with red stripes, red scorpion on the bonnet, mudflaps and a big exhaust. Reg ending in LXV. If you see me say hello!