Importing a kit car, er, kit, building and then registering.

Importing a kit car, er, kit, building and then registering.

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Hitch78

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6,106 posts

194 months

Thursday 18th July 2013
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Is this a dodge around the draconian import rules or have the bds got this one covered also? The closest I've come to spannering a car is when I took the wheels off a Clio to get at some baked on dust but that's not the point...

200bhp

5,663 posts

219 months

Thursday 18th July 2013
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Are you talking about importing and building an actual kit (Westfield etc.) or importing bits of a production car and re-assembling?

Mattt

16,661 posts

218 months

Thursday 18th July 2013
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Knowing this place, it can't be that simple.

200bhp

5,663 posts

219 months

Thursday 18th July 2013
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Building a kit here is a lot more complex than the uk. Partly due to a lack of donor vehicles and partly due to the paperwork and engineering certification required.

suthol

2,155 posts

234 months

Friday 19th July 2013
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Without knowing what sort of kit you are talking about and what state you are in makes an answer difficult.

A lot of the chassis that come out of the UK won't meet our Beam & Torsion requirements and also use a donor that doesn't exist in Oz so you could be buying a whole world of pain in the guise of modifications.

If you are looking at a sevenesque, GT40 or Cobra type then there are local or locally imported and complied options that will meet your need that are known to the various engineers and authorities which would make it a much more enjoyable process.

Pommygranite

14,252 posts

216 months

Friday 19th July 2013
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You have a better chance of building a bloody big model airplane and taking fair paying passengers for short lived trips than getting them to register a kit car. I'm serious, ignore safety standards, call it Air Dragon, or some other suitably poor asian based and away you go.

papahet

138 posts

129 months

Friday 19th July 2013
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If the kit comes in as a complete knock down car in a box with wheels, engine, driveline etc then Customs will ping you for trying to import a car without approval.

If you order a comprehensive kit that you can source the driveline and engine for here you will get it in as car parts. Ozclubbie forums have the answers.

Hitch78

Original Poster:

6,106 posts

194 months

Friday 19th July 2013
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custardtart

1,725 posts

253 months

Friday 19th July 2013
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Sadly I found it all too hard when trying to bring over my Westfield. Ozclubbies were helpful though.

There were a number of compliance areas which whilst painful could have been overcome but the final straw was having to cut off the FIA approved roll cage because it didn't meet the requirements!



SpridgetMitch

29 posts

129 months

Friday 19th July 2013
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I really wish they would make kit cars more doable. I would really love to make one of these:

http://www.totalkitcar.com/2013/03/14/new-one-from...

papahet

138 posts

129 months

Friday 19th July 2013
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It is doable. You just have to carefully choose the kit and availability of donor parts. You will need to have a read of the ADR's which are now aligned with the ECE regs that are used in the UK. Engage with and talk to the engineer that will be signing off on it.

The big ticket items are going to be emissions and bending / torsion regs.

These guys are the Aus agent for Sylva: http://southam.com.au/

Hitch78

Original Poster:

6,106 posts

194 months

Friday 19th July 2013
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I had a dream of an Ultima. Now quashed. Next daydream in 5, 4, 3, 2...

Mattt

16,661 posts

218 months

Friday 19th July 2013
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Boats...

200bhp

5,663 posts

219 months

Friday 19th July 2013
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Mattt said:
Boats...
http://www.boatsales.com.au/boats-for-sale/boatdet...

or

http://www.boatsales.com.au/boats-for-sale/boatdet...

I know nothing about boats but they look nice.

Edited by 200bhp on Friday 19th July 04:30

Ozzie Dave

565 posts

248 months

Friday 19th July 2013
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check because there are a few cars that have completed beam & torsion testing (GD for 1) but a lot depends on the state and engineer. LS engines are easier because its a known standard route I believe.

200bhp

5,663 posts

219 months

Friday 19th July 2013
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Speak to these guys about kit cars:

http://southam.com.au/home.html

We use them for other vehicle related engineering at work and they're good guys. No experience of their kit car business but I'd be speaking to them if I wanted a kit to be hassle free in Perth.

suthol

2,155 posts

234 months

Friday 19th July 2013
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Hitch78 said:
Is this a dodge around the draconian import rules or have the bds got this one covered also? The closest I've come to spannering a car is when I took the wheels off a Clio to get at some baked on dust but that's not the point...
What state are you in ??

As for Custards cage I think that was probably an opportunity missed, if the clearance was OK for the headstrike area then it becomes described as the A & B pillars in your engineering report once you shove a temp roof on it wink

SpridgetMitch

29 posts

129 months

Friday 19th July 2013
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Am I right in thinking that Southam are based in WA?

papahet

138 posts

129 months

Friday 19th July 2013
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Yes they are.

Ultima is possible here. There are a number in build and I believe one in Perth is on the road.

SpridgetMitch

29 posts

129 months

Friday 19th July 2013
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I don't think being here in NSW makes things any easier.

I understand that emissions are much easier if you use an engine currently in a car that is for sale. I don't know if it still applies for engines that are no longer in production. The latest Sylva kit uses an mgf as the donor for all the major mechanical parts. In that case the K-series is out of production but did meet emissions regs at the time. I can see the difficulty being the difference in emissions regs between say 1998 and 2013.

I have toyed with the kit car idea for a while and some of the British kits look great. So far I have baulked at the perceived amount of red tape involved.