Red rosé brakes

Red rosé brakes

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wongthecorrupter

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2,414 posts

171 months

Monday 29th July 2013
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I thinkI I'm correct in thinking the Tuscan red rosé brakes came with alloy bells and bolt on rotors,if so any ideas where to purchase a set

Toady1

1,612 posts

224 months

Monday 29th July 2013
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Yes you are correct, but I don't think you can buy just the discs anymore. You could try somewhere like Reyland. But I think the latest 322mm solid discs are the replacement for them, and you'll also need some wheel spacers iirc but someone else might confirm this.

wongthecorrupter

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2,414 posts

171 months

Monday 29th July 2013
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thanks mate,gutted for you i see your car is up for sale.My car is a red rose but it hasn,t got the ally bells and rotors.I know reyland as i have owned a fair few cosworths over the years

Brummmie

5,284 posts

221 months

Monday 29th July 2013
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We have one piece 330mm discs in around a months time.

B3NNL

1,056 posts

168 months

Monday 29th July 2013
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Brummmie said:
We have one piece 330mm discs in around a months time.
Be interested in some details when you have them Brummie. About to upgrade to the 322mm S ones, but could be interested in an alternative.
Cheers Benn.

Walford

2,259 posts

166 months

Tuesday 30th July 2013
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there is a big weight difference

Brummmie

5,284 posts

221 months

Tuesday 30th July 2013
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B3NNL said:
Be interested in some details when you have them Brummie. About to upgrade to the 322mm S ones, but could be interested in an alternative.
Cheers Benn.
Sure, they are direct replacements, we have had them done with slots, not drilled holes as i am sure some of you have now discovered they crack.
Holes also reduce thermal capacity of a brake system as you have filled it full of, well...holes!
It will just be a case of spacing the caliper out 4mm (we will supply water cut spacers) or more for smaller disc cars. The AP CP6600 caliper takes a 330mm disc so why go smaller? You get increased leverage and more thermal capacity.
We had the rears made for Cerberas as the other brands pricing was a P take, i got those out at almost half the cost.
These are those after a few miles and a track day with CL RC6 full race compound pads, no noticeable wear yet at all.



Edited by Brummmie on Tuesday 30th July 07:49

VARLEYHYD

2,244 posts

207 months

Tuesday 30th July 2013
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Brummmie said:
330mm... Sure, they are direct replacements, we have had them done with slots, not drilled holes as i am sure some of you have now discovered they crack.
Holes also reduce thermal capacity of a brake system as you have filled it full of, well...holes!
Good work that man!!...

any chance of machining a radial groove if not too late?



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Brummmie

5,284 posts

221 months

Tuesday 30th July 2013
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VARLEYHYD said:
Good work that man!!...

any chance of machining a radial groove if not too late?



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Hi, i have spec'd the same as per the Cerbera rears in the image.
We are looking at possibly replicating the whole range including the rears, if there is a demand.
I see you are on bells, where as the ones we have in production are one piece vented, like i say a direct replacement for the original.


cshaw4200

85 posts

129 months

Tuesday 30th July 2013
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Hi i have 304mm discs on my cerb and have braught some ap6600 brake callipers is there adapter plate to go from 152-130 centres or another way to.do thanks

Brummmie

5,284 posts

221 months

Tuesday 30th July 2013
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cshaw4200 said:
Hi i have 304mm discs on my cerb and have braught some ap6600 brake callipers is there adapter plate to go from 152-130 centres or another way to.do thanks
I will only supply spacer kits not adapters, but that will be a fairly simple operation.
You need something made up to bolt from the upright, does the Tuscan one fit?

Toady1

1,612 posts

224 months

Tuesday 30th July 2013
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wongthecorrupter said:
thanks mate,gutted for you i see your car is up for sale.My car is a red rose but it hasn,t got the ally bells and rotors.I know reyland as i have owned a fair few cosworths over the years
Yes I did put it up for sale end of last week after peer pressure from the mrs and parents to provide my 'whole family' with a decent fun car and not just myself and my son! ha ha! But after spending loads on it this year to get it as good as it now is....I'm not too sure I should bother and just be a selfish sod! ha ha ha!

wongthecorrupter

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2,414 posts

171 months

Tuesday 30th July 2013
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Toady1 said:
Yes I did put it up for sale end of last week after peer pressure from the mrs and parents to provide my 'whole family' with a decent fun car and not just myself and my son! ha ha! But after spending loads on it this year to get it as good as it now is....I'm not too sure I should bother and just be a selfish sod! ha ha ha!
I feel for you mate,this is why im never having a god forbid

Incognegro

1,560 posts

133 months

Thursday 19th November 2015
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Brummmie said:
cshaw4200 said:
Hi i have 304mm discs on my cerb and have braught some ap6600 brake callipers is there adapter plate to go from 152-130 centres or another way to.do thanks
I will only supply spacer kits not adapters, but that will be a fairly simple operation.
You need something made up to bolt from the upright, does the Tuscan one fit?
I am in the same predicament. Was this ever solved?

900T-R

20,404 posts

257 months

Thursday 19th November 2015
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cshaw4200 said:
Hi i have 304mm discs on my cerb and have braught some ap6600 brake callipers is there adapter plate to go from 152-130 centres or another way to.do thanks
TVR Parts lists a bracket/adapter for bolting the 'old' calipers to the 'new' style Cerbera/Tuscan uprights (TVR J0733), but not the other way around... However, an alternative would be to get a new pair of uprights - less expensive than you'd think and they're meant to be stronger, too...

Edited by 900T-R on Thursday 19th November 08:07

900T-R

20,404 posts

257 months

Thursday 19th November 2015
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Also, the 2-piece 322 mm discs with alloy bells are in Tarox' Bespoke discs programme. They're expensive but the quality is top notch, and they knock off a couple of kg of unsprung weight per corner. thumbup

MGBGTChris

31 posts

137 months

Thursday 19th November 2015
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900T-R said:
Also, the 2-piece 322 mm discs with alloy bells are in Tarox' Bespoke discs programme. They're expensive but the quality is top notch, and they knock off a couple of kg of unsprung weight per corner. thumbup
Just called Tarox, as I'm in the process of changing my front discs on the Tuscan, the price for a 2-piece front disc set as on TVR Cerebra (and I presume these are the same as the Red Rose) is 659,- Pounds ex. VAT.

I'm afraid that if I go for the 322 / 330 solid discs they will buckle once again. I won't have this problem with a 2 piece set-up and next to that the 2-piece is a big saving on unsprung weight. But is it worth the 400 Pounds extra...? confused


900T-R

20,404 posts

257 months

Thursday 19th November 2015
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MGBGTChris said:
Just called Tarox, as I'm in the process of changing my front discs on the Tuscan, the price for a 2-piece front disc set as on TVR Cerebra (and I presume these are the same as the Red Rose) is 659,- Pounds ex. VAT.
Mmmmhhh... at the current exchange rate you might want to consider sourcing them in The Netherlands, as the retail price is 779,- euro ex VAT here IIRC.

That's probably because the dealer margin for them is 1/5th that of the dics in their regular program (which aren't exactly high margin products either), then. :/ wink Part number for them is S2-2004; indeed they only list 'Cerbera '96-03' as the application which of course isn't entirely correct.


Whitey

2,508 posts

284 months

Thursday 19th November 2015
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MGBGTChris said:
Just called Tarox, as I'm in the process of changing my front discs on the Tuscan, the price for a 2-piece front disc set as on TVR Cerebra (and I presume these are the same as the Red Rose) is 659,- Pounds ex. VAT.

I'm afraid that if I go for the 322 / 330 solid discs they will buckle once again. I won't have this problem with a 2 piece set-up and next to that the 2-piece is a big saving on unsprung weight. But is it worth the 400 Pounds extra...? confused
I had juddering under braking on my Red Rose a few years ago. I had the front drag strut arm bushes replaced which solved the problem. Common on the Cerbera's with the same brakes. I had the polyurethane bushes fitted:
http://tvr-parts.com/tvr-parts/part-details/tvr-c0...

Brummmie

5,284 posts

221 months

Thursday 19th November 2015
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Our 322/330's no one has warped a set yet, two piece set up is More fragile as they have a big hole in, and that's filled with a soft centre...