How do they do it

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SILICONEKID343HP

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14,997 posts

230 months

Sunday 4th August 2013
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Just purchased a planet X carbon frame with part Ultegra group set for £999 . Paid £40 more for carbon seat post and stem and upgrade tyres and a few bits . ..That's got to be a £1800 bike ,how do they do it ? All the components are top notch ,nothing cheap on the bike .


http://www.planet-x-bikes.co.uk/i/q/CBPXSLPULT2/pl...

Edited by SILICONEKID343HP on Sunday 4th August 20:15

Pulse

10,922 posts

217 months

Sunday 4th August 2013
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Saw that myself. Looks a very nice bike, but I'm not good enough on a bike to spend £1000 just yet!

SILICONEKID343HP

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14,997 posts

230 months

Sunday 4th August 2013
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Pulse said:
Saw that myself. Looks a very nice bike, but I'm not good enough on a bike to spend £1000 just yet!
Well I spent £600 on a Jammis with low end parts and it was to small ,heavy so sold it on Ebay ..got more money than I paid for it ..Those ebayers are crazy !

Rouleur

7,015 posts

188 months

Sunday 4th August 2013
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They're being cheeky there IMO by stating "and we're not just giving you an Ultegra front mech, we're giving you a whole gearing system" when the chainset is actually from way down in the range. Okay, so it's technically not part of the 'gearing system', but the chainset is related to the gearing I'd say.

Anyway it's still damn good value. Enjoy!

SILICONEKID343HP

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14,997 posts

230 months

Sunday 4th August 2013
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Rouleur said:
They're being cheeky there IMO by stating "and we're not just giving you an Ultegra front mech, we're giving you a whole gearing system" when the chainset is actually from way down in the range. Okay, so it's technically not part of the 'gearing system', but the chainset is related to the gearing I'd say.

Anyway it's still damn good value. Enjoy!
If you spend around £50 more they upgrade the seat and handle bar stem to carbon ,supply much better tyres and upgrade for Gel tape .

Not sure what the chain set is but, did ask and he explained it`s equivalent to 105 . not heard of Shimano FC-R565 10 Speed Chainset





Frame: Planet X Pro Carbon Road Frame
Fork: Planet X Pro Carbon Road Fork
Front Derailleur: Shimano Ultegra FD-6700
Rear Derailleur: Shimano Ultegra FD-6700
Shifters: Shimano Ultegra 6700 STI Levers
Chainset: Shimano FC-R565 10 Speed Chainset
Crank length: 172.5mm
Chainrings: 50-34T
Bottom Bracket: BSA Bottom Bracket
Cassette: Shimano Ultegra 6700 Cassette
Chain: Shimano Ultegra 6701 10 Speed Chain
Front Brake: Shimano BR-R561Road Brake Caliper / Black / Front / Short Reach
Rear Brake: Shimano BR-R561Road Brake Caliper / Black / Rear / Short Reach
Handlebars: Planet X Road Bar Strada Shallow Drop
Bar tape: Planet X Cork Handlebar Tape - Black or White
Grips: N/A
Stem: Planet X Superlight Team 3D Forged Stem 100,110,120,130 mm
Headset: FSA Orbit C Headset / 1 1/8inch / Black / Intergrated / 8mm
Wheels: Shimano R501 C24 Clincher Wheelset
Front Tyre: PXT RAGE Folding Road Tyre - 700c x 35mm
Rear Tyre: PXT RAGE Folding Road Tyre - 700c x 35mm
Inner Tube: Planet X Inner Tubes
Saddle: San Marco Ponza Arrowhead Saddle
Seatpost: Planet X Superlight Team 3D Forged AlloySeatpost
Seat Clamp: 34.9 mm
Mudflap compatible: No
Pannier rack compatible: No
Pedals: Available Separately
Bottle cage bosses: 1 set on size small, 2 sets on all other sizes
Number of Gears: 20
Weight: 8.04kg / 17.01lb

bike frame geometry

































okgo

37,859 posts

197 months

Sunday 4th August 2013
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They do it -

Group set they got huge discount on as its about to be superseded
Cheap brakes
Cheap wheels
Cheap bars, stem, post, bar tape
Cheap tyres

It's on the face of it very impressive but actually your you had 105 and better wheels and tyres the bike would ride much more nicely I would think

mcelliott

8,626 posts

180 months

Sunday 4th August 2013
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I bought virtually the same bike just over a year ago, except it's decked out with Campag Athena and I upgraded the original wheels to Zondas. It's actually probably one of the best bikes I've ever ridden for the money. The particular bike shown in the ad, because I'm offshore, I could get for £800 with a huge chunk of VAT knocked off. Top value.

SILICONEKID343HP

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14,997 posts

230 months

Sunday 4th August 2013
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okgo said:
They do it -

Group set they got huge discount on as its about to be superseded
Cheap brakes
Cheap wheels
Cheap bars, stem, post, bar tape
Cheap tyres

It's on the face of it very impressive but actually your you had 105 and better wheels and tyres the bike would ride much more nicely I would think
Nothing wrong with the wheels ,good enough for me .brakes work ok ,upgraded bars,stem and tape and tyres for a little extra.

It`s still good value .

okgo

37,859 posts

197 months

Sunday 4th August 2013
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It's not bad value but its not IMO as good as the ones they have done in years gone by.


SILICONEKID343HP

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14,997 posts

230 months

Sunday 4th August 2013
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Would one of the bikes below for around 1k be a better deal .

http://www.planet-x-bikes.co.uk/bikes/q/planet_x_d...

itsnotarace

4,685 posts

208 months

Sunday 4th August 2013
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You don't get Ultegra brake calipers either

bert11

286 posts

177 months

Sunday 4th August 2013
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I rode a Planet X Ultegra carbon as a hire bike in Tenerife and it was great. The hire bloke said it was the best deal he could find

Gizmoish

18,150 posts

208 months

Sunday 4th August 2013
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Has it really got 700x35mm tyres on?

Dizeee

18,168 posts

205 months

Sunday 4th August 2013
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I dunno what it is with my 2 bikes, but the difference is immense.

One is ally, rolls on Mavic Aksiums with Schwalbe Durano S's

Other is Carbon, rolls on Fulcrums with GP4000's.

The frame difference being obvious, they feel like hugely different bikes.

ferrisbueller

29,260 posts

226 months

Monday 5th August 2013
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How does it compare with the Boardman Team Carbon at 1170 (10% off), a Colnago Ace 105 at 1350 and a Defy Composite 3 at 870?

jr6yam

1,303 posts

182 months

Monday 5th August 2013
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Dizeee said:
I dunno what it is with my 2 bikes, but the difference is immense.

One is ally, rolls on Mavic Aksiums with Schwalbe Durano S's

Other is Carbon, rolls on Fulcrums with GP4000's.

The frame difference being obvious, they feel like hugely different bikes.
But which is best?

WinstonWolf

72,857 posts

238 months

Monday 5th August 2013
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okgo said:
They do it -

Group set they got huge discount on as its about to be superseded
Cheap brakes
Cheap wheels
Cheap bars, stem, post, bar tape
Cheap tyres

It's on the face of it very impressive but actually your you had 105 and better wheels and tyres the bike would ride much more nicely I would think
The RT 58 is FULL Ultegra if you want biggrin

okgo

37,859 posts

197 months

Monday 5th August 2013
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WinstonWolf said:
The RT 58 is FULL Ultegra if you want biggrin
Nah, I've got a proper carbon bike thanks ;-)

Joking aside, they are good value, but they play on people who are (wrongly) drawn to the name on a rear mech when actually I'd challenge most people to notice the difference in a blind test between a 105 and ultegra rear mech, where they should be spending the money is on wheels/tyres - but they know what sells bikes is Ultegra/SRAM red peppering which actually make very little odds to the way a bike rides.

WinstonWolf

72,857 posts

238 months

Monday 5th August 2013
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okgo said:
WinstonWolf said:
The RT 58 is FULL Ultegra if you want biggrin
Nah, I've got a proper carbon bike thanks ;-)

Joking aside, they are good value, but they play on people who are (wrongly) drawn to the name on a rear mech when actually I'd challenge most people to notice the difference in a blind test between a 105 and ultegra rear mech, where they should be spending the money is on wheels/tyres - but they know what sells bikes is Ultegra/SRAM red peppering which actually make very little odds to the way a bike rides.
I can tell the difference as my last bike had 105 (which is perfectly good IMO). The Ultegra brakes are amazing compared to my old cantis and they even work in the wet. Which is nice...

okgo

37,859 posts

197 months

Monday 5th August 2013
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WinstonWolf said:
I can tell the difference as my last bike had 105 (which is perfectly good IMO). The Ultegra brakes are amazing compared to my old cantis and they even work in the wet. Which is nice...
Yes, but the point a couple have made is that you're getting only a couple of bits from the groupset which to the typical customer of this bike is probably enough to make a decision, you're not getting the brakes, the chainset etc etc, the bits you're not getting are important bits!