2009 XC90 D5 Summum - an end to the sheds!
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Damn!
I haven't learnt from previous times when looking at this thread and now I really want another XC90!
Sold ours (my wife's car) a few years ago when she changed jobs and went from a 4 mile commute to a 40 miles commute. Also it was in the higher tax bracket and £500 in one go was getting to me.
Now she's changed jobs and much shorter commute plus mileage of 45ppm has got us thinking again.
Tentatively looking and notice they are holding their price really well.
TBH they haven't moved much from when we sold ours nearly 2 years ago.
Yours looks fantastic and hitting nearly 30 mpg loaded up and with the chip is impressive.
I haven't learnt from previous times when looking at this thread and now I really want another XC90!
Sold ours (my wife's car) a few years ago when she changed jobs and went from a 4 mile commute to a 40 miles commute. Also it was in the higher tax bracket and £500 in one go was getting to me.
Now she's changed jobs and much shorter commute plus mileage of 45ppm has got us thinking again.
Tentatively looking and notice they are holding their price really well.
TBH they haven't moved much from when we sold ours nearly 2 years ago.
Yours looks fantastic and hitting nearly 30 mpg loaded up and with the chip is impressive.
kapiteinlangzaam said:
Occurred to me this evening ive ticked over two years with the car.
Running costs for year 2 (from my spritmonitor log).
Repairs €2,909
Accessories €1,750
Tyres €750
Maintenance €550 (one service + front brake pads)
Diesel €3,800
Insurance €1,200
For a total of:
€10,959 (not far off €1k per month, ouch!)
Distance driven: 25,935km (16,115miles)
Cost per km: €0.42c (or approx £0.49p per mile at current forex rates).
Now, if I remove the insurance (as thats vastly different for everyone and the optional accessories) it goes down to €0.30c per KM or approx. £0.36pppm
With cheap UK road tax and insurance, I guess it would be somewhere around the £0.40ppm range. So not cheap (still costing significantly more than double to run than my previous V70) but I suppose not horrendous either.
The nice thing is that the car is still worth more than I paid for it, so depreciation is not a factor.
As a comparison, over the same period my MINI Cooper cost €0.24c per km without depreciation (and it hasnt lost that much value), but with depreciation factored in, its up around €0.38c per km. That makes me feel better about the Volvo!
Think you need to do your currency conversions again.Running costs for year 2 (from my spritmonitor log).
Repairs €2,909
Accessories €1,750
Tyres €750
Maintenance €550 (one service + front brake pads)
Diesel €3,800
Insurance €1,200
For a total of:
€10,959 (not far off €1k per month, ouch!)
Distance driven: 25,935km (16,115miles)
Cost per km: €0.42c (or approx £0.49p per mile at current forex rates).
Now, if I remove the insurance (as thats vastly different for everyone and the optional accessories) it goes down to €0.30c per KM or approx. £0.36pppm
With cheap UK road tax and insurance, I guess it would be somewhere around the £0.40ppm range. So not cheap (still costing significantly more than double to run than my previous V70) but I suppose not horrendous either.
The nice thing is that the car is still worth more than I paid for it, so depreciation is not a factor.
As a comparison, over the same period my MINI Cooper cost €0.24c per km without depreciation (and it hasnt lost that much value), but with depreciation factored in, its up around €0.38c per km. That makes me feel better about the Volvo!
Edited by kapiteinlangzaam on Sunday 23 August 19:46
kapiteinlangzaam said:
W00DY said:
Think you need to do your currency conversions again.
Thats per km in euro compared to per mile in pounds. So theres also the approx 1.6km to 1 mile conversion to consider.I think ive got it right, but im knackered!
It does seem like a lot of cash when you add it up, but that's a far chunk in accessories/mods which I guess will likely decrease now? The LED upgrade looks very cool.
kapiteinlangzaam said:
Managed to catch it in the act whilst recording the boost pressure. Areas highlighted in RED correspond to me feeling the reduction in power in the car and the orange triangle of doom appearing.
During all runs, throttle pressure was constant at around 50%, and there were no gear changes. i.e. all are in-gear accelerations.
First occurrence looked like this, with a flat line:
All subsequent ones look like this, with a more pronounced dipping curve - I experienced this about 5 times in total, but only screen grabbed two of them.
Every time they set the 2xECM DTCs for MAF and Ho2S.
(peak boost recorded as 2700hPa, which is about 39psi).
I responded to your post on the Volvo forums, however my MTE remapped C70 D5 hits almost exactly the same peak boost as yours. 25PSI would be very high boost for a petrol but from what I understand this is not unusually high for a modern diesel engine. Still need someone to find out what a stock ones does. I also graphed the requested boost level from the ECU against the actual MAP and they track very well, so it's not overboosting.During all runs, throttle pressure was constant at around 50%, and there were no gear changes. i.e. all are in-gear accelerations.
First occurrence looked like this, with a flat line:
All subsequent ones look like this, with a more pronounced dipping curve - I experienced this about 5 times in total, but only screen grabbed two of them.
Every time they set the 2xECM DTCs for MAF and Ho2S.
(peak boost recorded as 2700hPa, which is about 39psi).
I can't comment on Volvos, but my MG ZT CDTI has a weedy turbo and from the factory runs at 20 PSI, and a quick tweak has it at 25 PSI.
Diesel turbos run at much higher pressure - it's why there are usually "diesel specific" manual boost controllers with stronger springs for higher pressures.
Diesel turbos run at much higher pressure - it's why there are usually "diesel specific" manual boost controllers with stronger springs for higher pressures.
kapiteinlangzaam said:
Cheers! I think I replied over on the Volvo forums (but maybe not!) 
The response from Polestar was utter garbage, no help at all.
Seems like 25psi might be OK then - my turbo is certainly very 'vocal', but its always been that way and hasnt changed over the 40k miles ive done in the car.
If I ever end up buying another (std) D5, its going straight to RICA. My Uncle in Law has a 240bhp map on his 185 D5 and its like a rocket ship in comparison to the standard car.
I'm extremely pleased with the MTE map and I've had no problems in about 30K (aside from needing a new clutch straight away The response from Polestar was utter garbage, no help at all.
Seems like 25psi might be OK then - my turbo is certainly very 'vocal', but its always been that way and hasnt changed over the 40k miles ive done in the car.
If I ever end up buying another (std) D5, its going straight to RICA. My Uncle in Law has a 240bhp map on his 185 D5 and its like a rocket ship in comparison to the standard car.
). My turbo is also very vocal, lots of whooshes and other most un-diesely noises from it. I wouldn't hesitate to recommend the MTE map, and I don't think I would be very happy at all to go back to the standard map now.JakeT said:
The D5 seems to be a very vocal motor generally. Makes lots of nice turbo noises for a diesel! Better than the boring VAG units that just clatter about...
Mine is a diesel convertible, and I will openly admit that I enjoy the engine note from the thing with the roof up or down. A real dirty offbeat growl with lots of whooshing and whistling from the turbo to help things along. I found the engine noise from my V70 T5 a bit odd, from inside it sounds like a sewing machine but from outside (usually as my OH boots it down the road) it sounds superb.Your last thread on the V70 really made me want one. So I guess you'd be going for a 2000-2007 model or a 2007-11 one? It seems like the best choice like the one you had last time is to get a facelift without the 185BHP engine for maximum reliability. I'm sure you could go for a top of the market one at that money!
kapiteinlangzaam said:
egor110 said:
At least with añother v70 you know what the likely problems are.
V. true.If I manage to sell the '90, its going to be quite a tough choice as where to head next.
The 07-12 generation V70 and XC70 have become seriously cheap. Then again a 163 e3 engine is just so much simpler.
Theres even a v. nice 2.5T LHD XC70 on the bay at the moment, although the 2.5T would slightly defeat the cost saving project. I miss getting 1300km from a tank of diesel!
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