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whatleytom

1,297 posts

183 months

Sunday 14th September 2014
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Shame the tour of Britain TT isn't being shown live.

Jonnny

29,397 posts

189 months

Sunday 14th September 2014
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London doesn't lend itself well to aerial camera view of a cycle race.....

Gizmoish

18,150 posts

209 months

Sunday 14th September 2014
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I know Cav is still coming back from injury, and I consider him the best sprinter ever.

But... The king is dead. Skittles is the new king of sprinting now. Just can't see how Cav can beat him heads up. Kittel can go either longer or outright faster and win either way.

okgo

38,038 posts

198 months

Sunday 14th September 2014
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If he is still slightly injured then today means not a lot. Was barely half a wheel between them.

I am finding spring finishes increasingly dull these days. Give me a summit finish or a one day cobbled classic any day.

Matt_N

8,902 posts

202 months

Sunday 14th September 2014
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Kermit power said:
For those interested (which surely has to be everyone on this thread! hehe ), Jens Voight's crack at the hour record is being shown on Eurosport at 20:45 on Thursday.
It's on live at 5.30 first.

Rocksteadyeddie

7,971 posts

227 months

Sunday 14th September 2014
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okgo said:
If he is still slightly injured then today means not a lot. Was barely half a wheel between them.

I am finding spring finishes increasingly dull these days. Give me a summit finish or a one day cobbled classic any day.
It were ever thus. The Classics are so named for a reason. 4-5 hours watching Paris-Roubaix or RVV is time will invested.

Dr Imran T

2,301 posts

199 months

Sunday 14th September 2014
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okgo said:
If he is still slightly injured then today means not a lot. Was barely half a wheel between them.

I am finding sprint finishes increasingly dull these days. Give me a summit finish or a one day cobbled classic any day.
Cobbled classics and one day races are great. That said, I have to say the Vuelta was amazing this year esp. the mountain stages. Pure action all the way through.

Beside sprint finishes being a tad dull albeit right till the very end, going round in circuits is the height of tedium for me.

anonymous-user

54 months

Sunday 14th September 2014
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The head on shot of Cav and Kittel at the end was fascinating.



Whilst I know they can both put out big power in a sprint, the traditional short, apparently more aerodynamic physique seems to be getting regularly beaten by the tall guys with the build of a track sprinter, Kittel can seemingly put out enough to ensure that Cav cant dart out from his slipstream and overhaul him. Even Ruffoni looks like a giant against Cav!.

And so to the Worlds, shame its going to be another 7 hour war of attrition...

Edited by anonymous-user on Sunday 14th September 21:27

BMWBen

4,899 posts

201 months

Sunday 14th September 2014
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pablo said:
The head on shot of Cav and Kittel at the end was fascinating.



Whilst I know they can both put out big power in a sprint, the traditional short, apparently more aerodynamic physique seems to be getting regularly beaten by the tall guys with the build of a track sprinter, Kittel can seemingly put out enough to ensure that Cav cant dart out from his slipstream and overhaul him. Even Ruffoni looks like a giant against Cav!.

And so to the Worlds, shame its going to be another 7 hour war of attrition...

Edited by pablo on Sunday 14th September 21:27
Position of those elbows could do with some work. Not that I can talk, my sprint is both lacking in technique AND power.

Vocal Minority

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8,582 posts

152 months

Tuesday 16th September 2014
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Cripes Kittel is a big bugger.

I mean I knew he was larger...but I didn't really appreciate by how much until that picture.

okgo

38,038 posts

198 months

Tuesday 16th September 2014
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He is a tall bloke, but he is still very skinny for someone his height, that is the thing with cyclists, they only look big when next to other cyclists, Kittell would look ill next to a regular sized person his height!

Re power, Kittel probably puts out a good 300-400 watts more than Cavendish who actually doesn't put out a lot (vs what many people think), he is fast because of his jump and how tiny he is.

Jonnny

29,397 posts

189 months

Tuesday 16th September 2014
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okgo said:
He is a tall bloke, but he is still very skinny for someone his height, that is the thing with cyclists, they only look big when next to other cyclists, Kittell would look ill next to a regular sized person his height!

Re power, Kittel probably puts out a good 300-400 watts more than Cavendish who actually doesn't put out a lot (vs what many people think), he is fast because of his jump and how tiny he is.
Saw them both in Camberley at the weekend, Mark is tiny compared to how big I thought he was, and his bike is even smaller.

Kittel is also smaller than he looks compared to regular people.. Very interesting.

VEA

4,785 posts

201 months

Tuesday 16th September 2014
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Thought this might be of interest in here.

http://www.independent.co.uk/sport/cycling/farewel...

Gizmoish

18,150 posts

209 months

Tuesday 16th September 2014
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I wonder if cyclists are the only sportsmen who are actually smaller than you expect?

Always remember the first time I saw Jimmy Anderson up close at Lord's a few years back. I'd always assumed he was 5'10 or so, but he's 6'2 and solid. Flintoff's even bigger.


okgo

38,038 posts

198 months

Tuesday 16th September 2014
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Its very odd, but its because when watching cyclists you don't see any scale.

The first thing I thought the other day when I flicked the TOB on was who is that fat lad in the break, it was Marcian Biablocki, certainly not a fat lad, but he looked big compared to the world tour pro's.

Even when you watch the tour series then flick on to a world tour race the difference is quite obvious.

Kermit power

28,647 posts

213 months

Tuesday 16th September 2014
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Gizmoish said:
I wonder if cyclists are the only sportsmen who are actually smaller than you expect?

Always remember the first time I saw Jimmy Anderson up close at Lord's a few years back. I'd always assumed he was 5'10 or so, but he's 6'2 and solid. Flintoff's even bigger.
I once found myself next to Joost Van Der Westhuizen in a hotel they were staying at in London after a match at Twickenham. I'd always assumed he was pretty tiny.

He's actually 6'1'', and just looked small because you only ever used to see him behind a Springbok pack! hehe

Here's hoping all this ice bucket challenge stuff might help with his life expectancy. frown

HereBeMonsters

14,180 posts

182 months

Tuesday 16th September 2014
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Kermit power said:
Joost Van Der Westhuizen
The man with the most South African name in the World, ever. smile

JuniorD

8,626 posts

223 months

Wednesday 17th September 2014
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Here's a photo taken earlier this year at the Etoile de Bessege race. Sam Dumoulin is reportedly 5 ft 3 and Conor Dunne is 6 ft 9

For reference, Nairo Quintana, is 5 ft6 and Mark Cavendish is 5 ft 9



http://www.stickybottle.com/latest-news/video-all-...

Vocal Minority

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8,582 posts

152 months

Wednesday 17th September 2014
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Bike swap!

Dr Imran T

2,301 posts

199 months

Wednesday 17th September 2014
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Anyone know what is next up for David Millar him? he was really emotional at the end of the Vuelta and actually broke down in tears after the commentators comments. Can he still race for a lower level team or is he going in to commentary or the like?

There is a nice career profile of him here:

http://www.cyclingweekly.co.uk/news/latest-news/da...

http://www.cyclingweekly.co.uk/news/latest-news/da...

I am sure he would be a useful member of a pro team in some shape or form, he's got a lot of useful experience to offer.