Prospective 991 GT3 RS Owners discussion forum.

Prospective 991 GT3 RS Owners discussion forum.

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DT398

1,745 posts

147 months

Sunday 19th October 2014
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BMCG said:
Macca must still be celebrating the All Black win...bastages.

quoting him from Rennlist: "Ive just recently had confirmed 4.0L, 510bhp, 340lbft"

Edited by BMCG on Sunday 19th October 15:23
Naturally aspirated then.......

isaldiri

18,412 posts

167 months

Sunday 19th October 2014
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DT398 said:
BMCG said:
Macca must still be celebrating the All Black win...bastages.

quoting him from Rennlist: "Ive just recently had confirmed 4.0L, 510bhp, 340lbft"

Edited by BMCG on Sunday 19th October 15:23
Naturally aspirated then.......
Interesting the rs will have a different capacity to the gt3 without being a special edition.

ferdi p

1,519 posts

171 months

Sunday 19th October 2014
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Anyone know the UK price?

Mermaid

21,492 posts

170 months

Sunday 19th October 2014
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isaldiri said:
Interesting the rs will have a different capacity to the gt3 without being a special edition.
Will upset some 4.0RS owners

RDMcG

19,096 posts

206 months

Monday 20th October 2014
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Mermaid said:
Will upset some 4.0RS owners
I don't think so. the 4.0 in the 991 is a variant on the 991 engine, not a Mezger.

isaldiri

18,412 posts

167 months

Monday 20th October 2014
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RDMcG said:
I don't think so. the 4.0 in the 991 is a variant on the 991 engine, not a Mezger.
The 991 RS will have some impact I think on the 4.0, especially if the 4.0 loses the tag as the 'most powerful n/a 911 engine' and that sort of stuff. Don't think one would go as far as saying the 4.0 owners will be displeased though as the nature of car development means there's always a newer/fast/more powerful car. The 4.0 will always be able to stand as the last iteration of the motorsport proven engine - something which I increasingly doubt the 9A1 ever will be (not that it necessariyl has any impact on how good or otherwise the 991 gt3/rs will be though).

Mermaid

21,492 posts

170 months

Monday 20th October 2014
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isaldiri said:
RDMcG said:
I don't think so. the 4.0 in the 991 is a variant on the 991 engine, not a Mezger.
The 991 RS will have some impact I think on the 4.0, especially if the 4.0 loses the tag as the 'most powerful n/a 911 engine' and that sort of stuff. Don't think one would go as far as saying the 4.0 owners will be displeased though as the nature of car development means there's always a newer/fast/more powerful car. The 4.0 will always be able to stand as the last iteration of the motorsport proven engine - something which I increasingly doubt the 9A1 ever will be (not that it necessariyl has any impact on how good or otherwise the 991 gt3/rs will be though).
The air cooled stuff is super holy, the rest less so. Do wonder if recent na, Mezger, stick shift, analogueness will be as valued against the latest,greatest stuff.

Audi/BMW have made these moves and are enjoying great success, the old stuff is good to reminisce over but that is about it.

We are spoiled for choice.

av185

18,433 posts

126 months

Monday 20th October 2014
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Mermaid said:
The air cooled stuff is super holy, the rest less so. Do wonder if recent na, Mezger, stick shift, analogueness will be as valued against the latest,greatest stuff.

Audi/BMW have made these moves and are enjoying great success, the old stuff is good to reminisce over but that is about it.

We are spoiled for choice.
I would suggest Aldi and BMW have lost the plot big time in the name of 'progress' with their supposedly more driver focused cars I.e RS4 and M3 M4 and its not just down to the transition from na to 'turbines'. Drive any of these and its personality bypass extreme as was the case with the recent Autocar test when the cumbersome slab sided M4 didn t even get a look in........

RDMcG

19,096 posts

206 months

Monday 20th October 2014
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Mermaid said:
The air cooled stuff is super holy, the rest less so. Do wonder if recent na, Mezger, stick shift, analogueness will be as valued against the latest,greatest stuff.

Audi/BMW have made these moves and are enjoying great success, the old stuff is good to reminisce over but that is about it.

We are spoiled for choice.
Hard to tell yet. The 996RS is much rarer than the 997 trio, so I would think that the most valuable cars in the long run might be the 996RS and the 997 4.0. I think they will all hold value, but not the kind of stratospheric rise the earlier and rarer cars. Personally do no care..bought them for experience rather than investment.

Mermaid

21,492 posts

170 months

Monday 20th October 2014
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RDMcG said:
Hard to tell yet. The 996RS is much rarer than the 997 trio, so I would think that the most valuable cars in the long run might be the 996RS and the 997 4.0. I think they will all hold value, but not the kind of stratospheric rise the earlier and rarer cars. Personally do no care..bought them for experience rather than investment.
You have the right attitude, but I suspect many 4.0RS owners (not so much the 996RS) are in a trap - do i drive it or don't I? No doubt there is a direct link between price rises & mileage accumulated on such cars. Hope this this syndrome does not afflict the 991 GT3.

av185

18,433 posts

126 months

Monday 20th October 2014
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Mermaid said:
You have the right attitude, but I suspect many 4.0RS owners (not so much the 996RS) are in a trap - do i drive it or don't I? No doubt there is a direct link between price rises & mileage accumulated on such cars. Hope this this syndrome does not afflict the 991 GT3.
Theres a right time, place and appropriate weather to use every interesting car.......but so much of todays motoring can be humdrum e.g supermarket trips, sitting in the outside lane of a boring motorway racking up miles etc etc and for these occasions may as well use a 'shed' which can often be as much fun whilst keeping the miles down and hopefully value up on your p and j.....yes

leeGT2

311 posts

158 months

Wednesday 22nd October 2014
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Does anyone know if there will be a manual version or is it PDK only?

BMCG

484 posts

135 months

Wednesday 22nd October 2014
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leeGT2 said:
Does anyone know if there will be a manual version or is it PDK only?
TurboBoostin (who took the photos/video of the RS in San Fran) asked that q of the german crew doing the shakedown tests.... the answer (which can be found on 6speedonline): NO MANUAL. PDK-S ONLY

EricE

1,945 posts

128 months

Wednesday 22nd October 2014
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BMCG said:
TurboBoostin (who took the photos/video of the RS in San Fran) asked that q of the german crew doing the shakedown tests.... the answer (which can be found on 6speedonline): NO MANUAL. PDK-S ONLY
Didn't they argue something along the lines that the engine in the 991 GT3 "revs too quick" for the average manual car driver? As such it is no surprise that the RS will also be PDK only, otherwise they would just admit that the RS engine has worse characteristics.

RDMcG

19,096 posts

206 months

Wednesday 22nd October 2014
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I posted this important Porsche announcement on the RS on Rennlist this morning. Exciting news:


PORSCHE INTRODUCES PHEK
Zuffenhausen
October 22 2014

Matthias Muller, CEO of Porsche AG today announced a revolutionary advance in energy efficiency.

"Porsche is dedicated to bringing the highest performance vehicles to our customers" said Mr Muller, "but at the same time we recognize the increasing need to produce the most energy efficient vehicles in recognition of new regulations and customer demand".

"Today we introduce PorscheHundEnergieKoncept, which will first be available in the 991 GT3RS. PHEK utilizes the unused space normally occupied by the rear seats by installing a specially designed roll cage. Not just a roll cage, but an integrated dog cage. The floor of the cage has a belt on which the dog runs, and the cage incorporates a small screen showing cats which the dog chases. (videos of other animals available at extra cost.)

The energy generated by the dog is channelled into a small battery which provides auxiliary power to the steering. At this stage we feel that the technology is not yet sufficiently advanced to provide extra HP to the RS,so this is our first step, indeed a first step for the industry.

Given the sporting nature of the GT3RS, VAG Chairman Dr. Ferdinand Piech was concerned at any dilution in the rawness of the RS. " No PHEKing Porsche should run like a dog", he remarked

Qualified buyers will need a sufficiently sized dogs, (dealer inspection required), or alternatively a limited run of PDs ( Porsche Dobermans) can be supplied, and the car can be painted to match the dog.

There are plans for a more completely powered vehicle using this technology. It will be called the Porsche Canine.

Mermaid

21,492 posts

170 months

Wednesday 22nd October 2014
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rofl

Dr S

4,995 posts

225 months

Wednesday 22nd October 2014
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isaldiri said:
RDMcG said:
I don't think so. the 4.0 in the 991 is a variant on the 991 engine, not a Mezger.
The 991 RS will have some impact I think on the 4.0, especially if the 4.0 loses the tag as the 'most powerful n/a 911 engine' and that sort of stuff. Don't think one would go as far as saying the 4.0 owners will be displeased though as the nature of car development means there's always a newer/fast/more powerful car. The 4.0 will always be able to stand as the last iteration of the motorsport proven engine - something which I increasingly doubt the 9A1 ever will be (not that it necessariyl has any impact on how good or otherwise the 991 gt3/rs will be though).
It's always tricky to use oneself as a reference. However, to me a 997RS is a very different animal than the 991 variants. If you are looking for the fastest machine for track days, then 991 any day of the week. For having fun on the road, I prefer the 997s.

Yellow491

2,912 posts

118 months

Thursday 23rd October 2014
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Dam excellent this,not only a automatic for those who cant think or concentrate enough,it automaticaly takes the dog for a walk also.psmile i wonder how i would get my Rottweiler butzi in the back.
RDMcG said:
I posted this important Porsche announcement on the RS on Rennlist this morning. Exciting news:


PORSCHE INTRODUCES PHEK
Zuffenhausen
October 22 2014

Matthias Muller, CEO of Porsche AG today announced a revolutionary advance in energy efficiency.

"Porsche is dedicated to bringing the highest performance vehicles to our customers" said Mr Muller, "but at the same time we recognize the increasing need to produce the most energy efficient vehicles in recognition of new regulations and customer demand".

"Today we introduce PorscheHundEnergieKoncept, which will first be available in the 991 GT3RS. PHEK utilizes the unused space normally occupied by the rear seats by installing a specially designed roll cage. Not just a roll cage, but an integrated dog cage. The floor of the cage has a belt on which the dog runs, and the cage incorporates a small screen showing cats which the dog chases. (videos of other animals available at extra cost.)

The energy generated by the dog is channelled into a small battery which provides auxiliary power to the steering. At this stage we feel that the technology is not yet sufficiently advanced to provide extra HP to the RS,so this is our first step, indeed a first step for the industry.

Given the sporting nature of the GT3RS, VAG Chairman Dr. Ferdinand Piech was concerned at any dilution in the rawness of the RS. " No PHEKing Porsche should run like a dog", he remarked

Qualified buyers will need a sufficiently sized dogs, (dealer inspection required), or alternatively a limited run of PDs ( Porsche Dobermans) can be supplied, and the car can be painted to match the dog.

There are plans for a more completely powered vehicle using this technology. It will be called the Porsche Canine.

RDMcG

19,096 posts

206 months

Thursday 23rd October 2014
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Not sure about the Rottweiler walking, but here is an update:




For those interested in the PHEK option for the RS, I have a little insider information.
As usual, the thing was not fully tested in all field conditions, but there will not be a recall. There will be a much improved Gen.2 version which addressed a problem that arose during long distance driving.

Dogs sometimes need to do their business, and clearly inside the car is definitely not on. The new,improved PHEK ultimate 2 includes a tail sensor, and when the dog is ready the new feature, PDK-K is activated. The belt draws back leaving a hole for the dog, lined with a plastic bag. Once complete the belt comes down automatically sealing the bag. The area is of course full ventilated.

PDK-K
(PorscheDumpKontrolle-Kanin), will be an essential for all buyers when they go to the dealer, saying "PHEK U.2" for me.
Dealer options include bags with the Porsshce Crest, of course.

The Chief Tester has been seen on the Nordsheisse, but Hans Braun does not do interviews....


BMCG

484 posts

135 months

Friday 24th October 2014
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sourced from : http://www.autobild.de/bilder/porsche-911-gt3-rs-n...

these seem new...but (falsely?) recollect them being around for a while....