Boring / honing wet liners

Boring / honing wet liners

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Pumaracing

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2,089 posts

208 months

Sunday 25th August 2013
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Helping a friend rebuild a Peugeot Mi16 race engine and we need a set of the standard wet cylinder liners bored and honed from 83.0 mm to 83.5 mm. Whoever did the job on the current engine made a pig's ear of it by boring too close to finished size and ending up with hardly any honing pattern and consequently high oil consumption and blowby.

It's a simple job if you have the right jigs already made up to clamp and hold the liners evenly but a pita if you have to make those up specially first. I assumed, rather sensibly I thought, that the people best tooled up for the job would be those who advertise that they make and sell performance liners for such race engines anyway but they weren't interested, probably on the grounds that it would be losing them a sale of their own rather expensive HT steel liners.

So can anyone recommend a firm that can do this properly with the right tolerances and cross-hatch honing finish?

DVandrews

1,317 posts

284 months

Sunday 25th August 2013
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Coventry boring and metalling
Perfectbore
Westwood

Dave

Tango13

8,457 posts

177 months

Sunday 25th August 2013
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How about getting the liners nikasil lined and re-honed back to 83.5mm?

http://www.langcourt.com/page16.html

Pumaracing

Original Poster:

2,089 posts

208 months

Wednesday 28th August 2013
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Thanks for the suggestions. I'll follow them up. We have a spare set of good std liners so I'll probably go for boring them out rather than plating the old ones but it's a good idea and might come in handy in future. If anyone has more suggestions please keep them coming.

PeterBurgess

775 posts

147 months

Wednesday 28th August 2013
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Have you tried Agra Engineering? They are in Dundee.

http://www.agraengineering.co.uk/

Peter

Pumaracing

Original Poster:

2,089 posts

208 months

Wednesday 28th August 2013
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PeterBurgess said:
Have you tried Agra Engineering?
A number of people up here have and apparently won't be repeating the mistake.

Pumaracing

Original Poster:

2,089 posts

208 months

Wednesday 5th February 2014
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Well that turned into a frigging nightmare. I won't say who my friend went to in the end, although it wasn't anyone suggested in this thread though I did phone most of them to see if they were interested and/or capable of doing the job. The liners came back with up to 5.6 thou ovality due to being clamped under such pressure that they distorted oval, were actually bored true to size as far as I can tell from average diameter measurements taken at several places round the bores but then sprang back oval again once the top clamp was taken off. One liner, the one with the worst distortion measurements, was actually now split at the bottom with a small hairline crack and a diametrical measurement 10 thou below target size in one plane.

So that's a set of hard to find Mi16 liners scrapped and back to square one on the engine build.

stevieturbo

17,271 posts

248 months

Wednesday 5th February 2014
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Do the generic aftermarket not make liners for the engine ?

Or are they poor quality ?

Or are they still available from Peugeot ?

packman10_4

245 posts

195 months

Thursday 6th February 2014
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Knight Engine Services near Towcester Northants , he is always doing Datron liners and old Lotus 2.2 and pug stuff ....

01327 340900

Pumaracing

Original Poster:

2,089 posts

208 months

Thursday 6th February 2014
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Thanks I'll pass that on.

DVandrews

1,317 posts

284 months

Friday 7th February 2014
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Cambridge Rebores Ltd
1 Broads Rd, Burwell, Cambridgeshire
01638 743797

Also gets involved with a lot of classics,very experienced setup.

Dave

DVandrews

1,317 posts

284 months

Monday 10th February 2014
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Just had a chat with Duncan at Westwood liners, they stock the liners in question in ductile iron (which has a far greater hoop strength than regular spun cast material). So if you need replacements they are available off the shelf ...


Unit 3 George Baylis Court, George Baylis Road, Berry Hill Industrial Estate, Droitwich, Worcestershire
01905 799470

Dave