Impreza/Focus RS

Impreza/Focus RS

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Shade

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91 posts

168 months

Saturday 31st August 2013
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Hi all,

posting this on here cos PH members seem to be a little less biased than owners club forums. Basically I have a lovely standard mk1 Focus RS at the minute, but a Scooby has always been the sort of dream car since I started playing Gran Turismo when I was a kid. Anyway, I digress.

I drove a friends WRX last night, 53 plate, and I pretty much fell in love with it. If I were to buy one it would be an STI though, so a bit quicker etc. in the blobeye shape. Obviously though I have no idea of the running costs etc. of a Scoob. I wouldn't be using it everyday as I have a little Saxo diesel to ferry me back and forth to work, so it would be a fun/weekend car. I'm not planning on locking it away and barely using it though - just that where I work is frankly disgusting and I wouldn't want to ruin a nice car there.

If I was to get one it would be a 2003/4 blobeye shape STI, and I'm not fussed on type UK/JAP or wether it has the PPP or not. My RS is quick enough and an STI would be another 80-100 bhp again, which would be plenty. For the money my RS is worth I think I'd easily be able to afford a nice, low miles Impreza of this age, especially if I chip in a little more cash.

My RS is pretty reasonable on long runs, I've even seen nearly 40mpg out of it and the running costs have been minimal. I bought a well maintained example that's never wanted for anything so I haven't had to do a great deal to it. I know with the Impreza comes the complications of 4wd, diffs etc. that all need maintaining. How much would I realistically be looking at running an STI, probably doing no more than 4-5,000 miles per year. And no, I'm not expecting it to see more than 25mpg.

I have the RS serviced by Ford and put the best tyres and things like that on it etc. so costs for all that probably wouldn't change. Any advice on this would be fantastic and much appreciated.

Terminator X

15,084 posts

204 months

Saturday 31st August 2013
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Jap STi is always "better" than its UK equivalent year on year so get one of them imho (I owned a 54 plate Spec C a few years ago). Fuel will hurt as low 20's is probably as good as it gets. Annual servicing is a must imho and the Jap cars are pretty bullet proof. The UK 2.5 cars have a certain reputation for chocolate engines *flame suit on*

TX.

Shade

Original Poster:

91 posts

168 months

Saturday 31st August 2013
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Is there anything in particular that makes the Jap cars "better"? Yeah I service my cars religiously anyway, and fuel won't be an issue 'cos it won't be a daily. And the 04 blobeye is a 2.0 not a 2.5, so that wouldn't affect me.

Terminator X

15,084 posts

204 months

Saturday 31st August 2013
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STi was Jap only for a long time (grey import was only way to get them) and when introduced to the UK it was the 2.5 version afaik. Jap STi always had the 2 litre engine which is a real screamer + so many extra toys vs the UK car. They did get closer in spec over the years so a more modern one is pretty similar.

TX.

Shade

Original Poster:

91 posts

168 months

Saturday 31st August 2013
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I'm just reading up on the differences now, thanks.

paulmoonraker

2,850 posts

163 months

Saturday 31st August 2013
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Try and get a 2005 STi as you get the DCCD an wider track. The Jap cars are better but you lose the flat four burble (the exhaust manifold is different on the imports)...

See my garage... I miss mine dearly...

On a run I used to get just shy of 30MPG if I drove carefully...

Shade

Original Poster:

91 posts

168 months

Saturday 31st August 2013
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Think that noise is half the reason I want one lol. Yours really is a beauty. So one with the centre diff is the one to go for?

Shade

Original Poster:

91 posts

168 months

Saturday 31st August 2013
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Just had a look, there's a fairly large gulf in price for 2005 models. Only ones under £8k are all above 75,000 miles. What is engine reliability like on these?

paulmoonraker

2,850 posts

163 months

Saturday 31st August 2013
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It makes a difference on track days etc, however, I didn't much mess with it when road driving.

I wouldn't get too hung up on a Jap import. The UK 2005 STi is still a belter...

Best car I have ever owned...

paulmoonraker

2,850 posts

163 months

Saturday 31st August 2013
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Shade said:
Just had a look, there's a fairly large gulf in price for 2005 models. Only ones under £8k are all above 75,000 miles. What is engine reliability like on these?
As time was bound to tell - they are the best ones. The 2.0ltr engine is bullet proof, but in 2006 they moved to the 2.5 which by comparison is weak...

Shade

Original Poster:

91 posts

168 months

Saturday 31st August 2013
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I think I'd be happy enough with a 2.0 UK one, and I can't see the DCCD making much of a difference - I have no intention of tracking the car.

Plus I can get a nice low miles 2.0 UK one and I'd have a bit of money left over, as the price difference is pretty large.

Busterbulldog

670 posts

131 months

Saturday 31st August 2013
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Find yourself a sorted P1 or type r ,more a sense of occasion

Shade

Original Poster:

91 posts

168 months

Saturday 31st August 2013
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Thanks for the advice but I want a blobeye STI.

Terminator X

15,084 posts

204 months

Saturday 31st August 2013
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Just to give you a flavour wink



TX.

Busterbulldog

670 posts

131 months

Saturday 31st August 2013
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Oh and faster

paulmoonraker

2,850 posts

163 months

Saturday 31st August 2013
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Busterbulldog said:
Oh and faster
There getting old now... And, besides, a mapped blobeye STi will make around 340bhp, so will be hardly slow.

Shade

Original Poster:

91 posts

168 months

Saturday 31st August 2013
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Very nice TX.

Standard will be more than enough for me at 270 ish, I'm going from 212 as it is. Plus insurance probably would be a factor with mods involved.

paulmoonraker

2,850 posts

163 months

Saturday 31st August 2013
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Shade said:
Very nice TX.

Standard will be more than enough for me at 270 ish, I'm going from 212 as it is. Plus insurance probably would be a factor with mods involved.
Speak with Keith Michaels for insurance... The difference between a standard STi and a mapped one is significant wink my old STi could easily outgun my current M3 to 60!

Ved

3,825 posts

175 months

Saturday 31st August 2013
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paulmoonraker said:
Shade said:
Very nice TX.

Standard will be more than enough for me at 270 ish, I'm going from 212 as it is. Plus insurance probably would be a factor with mods involved.
Speak with Keith Michaels for insurance... The difference between a standard STi and a mapped one is significant wink my old STi could easily outgun my current M3 to 60!
PM speaketh the truth. My STI is around 320-340 and is frankly brilliant. I'm also averaging 29mpg with 35 on motorways and that is down to a good remap and correct fuel. Insurance won't move much as I pay £500.

Busterbulldog

670 posts

131 months

Saturday 31st August 2013
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Shade said:
Very nice TX.

Standard will be more than enough for me at 270 ish, I'm going from 212 as it is. Plus insurance probably would be a factor with mods involved.
270 is not enough power with the 6 speed box smile