rent rises - non ejari registered contract.....
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righto,
last year we rented a 2 bed in JBR, nice pad and great view over the palm for 100k all in. didn't use an agent [my mate was moving out and so did the deal direct with the landlord] and wrote the contract myself on one of the blue forms. as it looked like effort, i didn't register with ejari.
just looked at the ejari rental increase calculator and it says the average rent for jbr is 130k for a 2 bed with a max. permissable increase of 5k. if i can get a renewal for 105k i would be laughing, but can't see the landlord being ok with that.
anyways, he just rang me to sound out if we're staying. bad line so i said i'd email him.
just wondered how i should approach this. do i go in with the ejari figure or wait for him to propose a price? do i have a leg to stand on given i haven't registered the contract??
last year we rented a 2 bed in JBR, nice pad and great view over the palm for 100k all in. didn't use an agent [my mate was moving out and so did the deal direct with the landlord] and wrote the contract myself on one of the blue forms. as it looked like effort, i didn't register with ejari.
just looked at the ejari rental increase calculator and it says the average rent for jbr is 130k for a 2 bed with a max. permissable increase of 5k. if i can get a renewal for 105k i would be laughing, but can't see the landlord being ok with that.
anyways, he just rang me to sound out if we're staying. bad line so i said i'd email him.
just wondered how i should approach this. do i go in with the ejari figure or wait for him to propose a price? do i have a leg to stand on given i haven't registered the contract??
I've just been through the whole Ejari thing with our new place, so I can give you chapter and bloody verse on it.
When it was introduced, it was supposed to be the landlord's responsibility to register.
Landlords pretty soon realised that they weren't getting anything for their fee and in fact, if they had nefarious tendencies then an Ejari registration made life difficult for them.
The government, instead of forcing landlords to register, created a means by which "tenants can register their rental themselves should their landlord fail to do so"
What this means in practise is that no landlord ever registers the rental and the tenant is left to do it.
The sting in the tail is that you now need Ejari registration in order to take out a Du or OSN subscription and sponsor a child etc.... it is not the most difficult of processes to undertake but like everything here you needs reams of paperwork and it takes time.
When it was introduced, it was supposed to be the landlord's responsibility to register.
Landlords pretty soon realised that they weren't getting anything for their fee and in fact, if they had nefarious tendencies then an Ejari registration made life difficult for them.
The government, instead of forcing landlords to register, created a means by which "tenants can register their rental themselves should their landlord fail to do so"
What this means in practise is that no landlord ever registers the rental and the tenant is left to do it.
The sting in the tail is that you now need Ejari registration in order to take out a Du or OSN subscription and sponsor a child etc.... it is not the most difficult of processes to undertake but like everything here you needs reams of paperwork and it takes time.
hed about estate agents ripping off LL & tennats by trying to get every body to move once a year we just agreed a nominal figure.dxbtiger said:
I am moving end of October and I will try and get the Ejari template signed at the same time the lease is signed, looking at the template it needs the owner signature as well?
Will try and get the agent to do as much of the legwork as possible!
Yep, getting the agent to do it is the best way forward.... mine wanted to charge 500aed (plus the 190 Ejari charge) to do it but since I'd just paid her 13,500 in commission I convinced her to do it for free!Will try and get the agent to do as much of the legwork as possible!
Asterix said:
Just to clarify - aren't rents fixed for two years from the first contract and then the 5% cap kicks in?
Correct.The rent is fixed at the contracted price for the first 2 years unless the landlord can prove that the rent being charged is more than a certain percentage (40% I think) below the market rate, then it can be raised.
After the end of year 2, the rent may be increased but again only by a percentage amount defined by the difference between the current rent and the market rate.
All that said, if you fight a landlord and win another year, you can expect to have no maintenance done, and no deposit returned when you do leave... I would always try and negotiate a figure that both parties are happy with.
we pay the housing fee with dewa anyway, its 2/3 of our monthly bills!
cheers for the advice, i'll email and see what he sets the renewal at.
i feel like i'm on shaky ground as we didn't use an agency, just bought the contract from a stationers and i wrote a page of t&c's. we're also paying 30k less than market rate.
will suck it and see. if i stayed i need to find a flatmate anyway.
cheers for the advice, i'll email and see what he sets the renewal at.
i feel like i'm on shaky ground as we didn't use an agency, just bought the contract from a stationers and i wrote a page of t&c's. we're also paying 30k less than market rate.
will suck it and see. if i stayed i need to find a flatmate anyway.
I understand that it is completely against the law to a) raise the rent by more than a token amount, say 5% and b) give less than 365 days notice if the landlord wants you out. I'd also bet money that it makes no difference if you are a local or not, RERA seems to really be on the side of the tenent.
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