Walking Dead Series 4 - spoilers will get their brains eaten
Discussion
Halb said:
http://insidetv.ew.com/2014/07/17/walking-dead-rob...
Best season yet? Erm, well that shouldn't be hard.
Something might actually happen this season then!Best season yet? Erm, well that shouldn't be hard.
Well I presume there is a story arc leading to something? They could just make series about "trying to survive" forever. However I presume one of the 3 will have to happen for the show to have closure:
a.) They all die
b.) They find somewhere safe to live
c.) They find out the cause/find a cure
It feels like the 4 series so far have only covered what, 2 years in real time? Perhaps the issue is the networks and how the cancel/commission shows? You don't want to write a show that only lasts 4 series if there is a chance that they will commission a 5th. On the other hand, the show could be cancelled at anytime and it seems the networks are only commissioning a series at a time.
This must make it quite difficult to build a cohesive story arc and why it feels like each series is just made up as they go along. They could have quite easily ended the show on the final episode of series 4 - leave it for the viewers to decide whether they survive or not. The fact that they have introduced Eugene, Abraham and Rosita, would suggest that the story is heading to the cause/redemption. However, they could just as easily re-write it so that they are superfluous characters.
I haven't read the Season 5 spoilers, but given that S4 was all leading up to Terminus, one would presume that at least half of S5 must be about Terminus? Therefore I can't really see how they can coherently wrap this up without a sixth series? Do we know whether a sixth series has already been commissioned? I'd feel a bit short-changed if not and it just ends with some contrived finish in the last few episodes.
a.) They all die
b.) They find somewhere safe to live
c.) They find out the cause/find a cure
It feels like the 4 series so far have only covered what, 2 years in real time? Perhaps the issue is the networks and how the cancel/commission shows? You don't want to write a show that only lasts 4 series if there is a chance that they will commission a 5th. On the other hand, the show could be cancelled at anytime and it seems the networks are only commissioning a series at a time.
This must make it quite difficult to build a cohesive story arc and why it feels like each series is just made up as they go along. They could have quite easily ended the show on the final episode of series 4 - leave it for the viewers to decide whether they survive or not. The fact that they have introduced Eugene, Abraham and Rosita, would suggest that the story is heading to the cause/redemption. However, they could just as easily re-write it so that they are superfluous characters.
I haven't read the Season 5 spoilers, but given that S4 was all leading up to Terminus, one would presume that at least half of S5 must be about Terminus? Therefore I can't really see how they can coherently wrap this up without a sixth series? Do we know whether a sixth series has already been commissioned? I'd feel a bit short-changed if not and it just ends with some contrived finish in the last few episodes.
TEKNOPUG said:
Well I presume there is a story arc leading to something? They could just make series about "trying to survive" forever. However I presume one of the 3 will have to happen for the show to have closure:
a.) They all die
b.) They find somewhere safe to live
c.) They find out the cause/find a cure
It feels like the 4 series so far have only covered what, 2 years in real time? Perhaps the issue is the networks and how the cancel/commission shows? You don't want to write a show that only lasts 4 series if there is a chance that they will commission a 5th. On the other hand, the show could be cancelled at anytime and it seems the networks are only commissioning a series at a time.
This must make it quite difficult to build a cohesive story arc and why it feels like each series is just made up as they go along. They could have quite easily ended the show on the final episode of series 4 - leave it for the viewers to decide whether they survive or not. The fact that they have introduced Eugene, Abraham and Rosita, would suggest that the story is heading to the cause/redemption. However, they could just as easily re-write it so that they are superfluous characters.
I haven't read the Season 5 spoilers, but given that S4 was all leading up to Terminus, one would presume that at least half of S5 must be about Terminus? Therefore I can't really see how they can coherently wrap this up without a sixth series? Do we know whether a sixth series has already been commissioned? I'd feel a bit short-changed if not and it just ends with some contrived finish in the last few episodes.
The natural end is for the Zombies to run out of nutrition.a.) They all die
b.) They find somewhere safe to live
c.) They find out the cause/find a cure
It feels like the 4 series so far have only covered what, 2 years in real time? Perhaps the issue is the networks and how the cancel/commission shows? You don't want to write a show that only lasts 4 series if there is a chance that they will commission a 5th. On the other hand, the show could be cancelled at anytime and it seems the networks are only commissioning a series at a time.
This must make it quite difficult to build a cohesive story arc and why it feels like each series is just made up as they go along. They could have quite easily ended the show on the final episode of series 4 - leave it for the viewers to decide whether they survive or not. The fact that they have introduced Eugene, Abraham and Rosita, would suggest that the story is heading to the cause/redemption. However, they could just as easily re-write it so that they are superfluous characters.
I haven't read the Season 5 spoilers, but given that S4 was all leading up to Terminus, one would presume that at least half of S5 must be about Terminus? Therefore I can't really see how they can coherently wrap this up without a sixth series? Do we know whether a sixth series has already been commissioned? I'd feel a bit short-changed if not and it just ends with some contrived finish in the last few episodes.
Any Zombie film is really just a waiting game. When they have eaten all there is to eat, they wither away and die. Just a disease with no host.
Halb said:
Indeed. Pretty much means that society is irredeemably changed.
Scary new world.
Everyone has to wear and explosive collar with a heart monitor Scary new world.
The zombies aren't really a threat, with the exception of swarms. As with all apocalypse scenarios, it's the break down of society and other humans that is the danger.
TEKNOPUG said:
Everyone has to wear and explosive collar with a heart monitor
The zombies aren't really a threat, with the exception of swarms. As with all apocalypse scenarios, it's the break down of society and other humans that is the danger.
If you live with other humans, it'll always be on the periphery. Somebody dies in their sleep? They're a zombie, they have a partner, now they're a zombie too, they start to wander in the night, zombie town!The zombies aren't really a threat, with the exception of swarms. As with all apocalypse scenarios, it's the break down of society and other humans that is the danger.
It'd start to necessitate certain practises. Locks to be used all the time, always go places in pairs, etc.
Not the greatest threat, but life would never be the same. There would always need to be an element of keen awareness.
Art0ir said:
richtea78 said:
I'm a little concerned how much thought some of you have put into this!
I thought planning for the zombie apocalypse was standard day dream fodder for any grown male 
Only just ten minutes before I logged on, I started watching The Honourable Woman, and when she slept in her panic room first thing I thought, that'd be good for zombies, and then I started thinking about a castle with a dry moat, best place to live....er
Halb said:
Art0ir said:
richtea78 said:
I'm a little concerned how much thought some of you have put into this!
I thought planning for the zombie apocalypse was standard day dream fodder for any grown male Only just ten minutes before I logged on, I started watching The Honourable Woman, and when she slept in her panic room first thing I thought, that'd be good for zombies, and then I started thinking about a castle with a dry moat, best place to live....er
can they swim? if not, then you want an island.
and they WWZ style? then you want an oilrig or similar.
Standard somewhere between 28DL/TWD, then you want some large corporate compound. Think of an out of town data centre. Fences, walls, security cameras, generators, space for crops
Efbe said:
The natural end is for the Zombies to run out of nutrition.
Any Zombie film is really just a waiting game. When they have eaten all there is to eat, they wither away and die. Just a disease with no host.
zombies are already dead...Any Zombie film is really just a waiting game. When they have eaten all there is to eat, they wither away and die. Just a disease with no host.
WWZ book: they don't need to eat, they kinda digest their own bodies for what little energy they require
TWD 'everyone's infected' scenario i'm not quite sure I understand it properly
if you get bitten, it's just a really infectious wound that kills you of fever/toxic shock or something? would there be no saving someone with a bite?
Efbe said:
just not that simple!!
can they swim? if not, then you want an island.
and they WWZ style? then you want an oilrig or similar.
Standard somewhere between 28DL/TWD, then you want some large corporate compound. Think of an out of town data centre. Fences, walls, security cameras, generators, space for crops
I want to live with you.can they swim? if not, then you want an island.
and they WWZ style? then you want an oilrig or similar.
Standard somewhere between 28DL/TWD, then you want some large corporate compound. Think of an out of town data centre. Fences, walls, security cameras, generators, space for crops
Hugo a Gogo said:
Efbe said:
The natural end is for the Zombies to run out of nutrition.
Any Zombie film is really just a waiting game. When they have eaten all there is to eat, they wither away and die. Just a disease with no host.
zombies are already dead...Any Zombie film is really just a waiting game. When they have eaten all there is to eat, they wither away and die. Just a disease with no host.
WWZ book: they don't need to eat, they kinda digest their own bodies for what little energy they require
TWD 'everyone's infected' scenario i'm not quite sure I understand it properly
if you get bitten, it's just a really infectious wound that kills you of fever/toxic shock or something? would there be no saving someone with a bite?
The Walking Dead is a title that refers to the zombies, for obvious reasons, and also to the people who are still 'alive', in the more traditional sense.
Rick and the survivors are the 'walking dead' for various reasons, it's a clever title, but one of them is that all humans are infected and all humans will turn eventually. So long as there are humans, there shall be zombies.
Rick and the survivors are the 'walking dead' for various reasons, it's a clever title, but one of them is that all humans are infected and all humans will turn eventually. So long as there are humans, there shall be zombies.
I need a zombie fix so I'm giving Dead Set on 4OD a try.
IMBD gives it a 7.9: http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1285482/
IMBD gives it a 7.9: http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1285482/
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