boring family car clutch question.

boring family car clutch question.

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tickious

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1,392 posts

175 months

Wednesday 16th October 2013
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1.5d megane estate. The clutch is really heavy and is killing my knee with stop start commute. Is there s way of making it lighter?

PaulKemp

979 posts

146 months

Wednesday 16th October 2013
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Hydraulic or cable?
Usually the only way of changing effort needed is by changing the lever point on the clutch pedal
Not for the home mechanic

tickious

Original Poster:

1,392 posts

175 months

Wednesday 16th October 2013
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PaulKemp said:
Hydraulic or cable?
Usually the only way of changing effort needed is by changing the lever point on the clutch pedal
Not for the home mechanic
Cable. Wife's got hydraulic on her micra and that seems about a quarter of the force to depress.

Bennachie

1,090 posts

152 months

Wednesday 16th October 2013
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Changing the cable and ensuring the cable run is as 'gentle' as possible works wonders.

How old is the cable? They get very sticky once the inner ptfe lining gets worn away at the bends on the cable.

Sardonicus

18,965 posts

222 months

Wednesday 16th October 2013
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And remember that clutches generally get heavier with wear & tear as the fingers move away from the pressure plate frown but agree with checking cable condition and run they are not notorious for a heavy clutch feel scratchchin

stevieturbo

17,273 posts

248 months

Wednesday 16th October 2013
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I would say there must be a serious fault somewhere. Because it is a bog standard mundane car.
I find it hard to believe the clutch is that heavy.

I can appreciate people are different etc etc etc...but if there is a medical or physical reason that makes a clutch difficult. Buy an automatic.

And really...for heavy traffic, commuting in an auto really is so much more enjoyable.

Old Merc

3,494 posts

168 months

Wednesday 16th October 2013
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I`ve little experience with Renault's but plenty with Peugeot`s and I bet its the same?.The old Pug`s clutches got heavier and heavier with age.Fit a new clutch assembly and the pedal was back to normal.

annodomini2

6,868 posts

252 months

Wednesday 16th October 2013
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I have a Clio with the same engine, I've driven several, they are heavy.

ETA: I've had it from new.

tickious

Original Poster:

1,392 posts

175 months

Thursday 17th October 2013
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Cheers guys! I'll try a new clutch assembly and cable I think. I have thought about an auto but I prefer the economy of a Manuel.

Nick1point9

3,917 posts

181 months

Thursday 17th October 2013
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tickious said:
Cheers guys! I'll try a new clutch assembly and cable I think. I have thought about an auto but I prefer the economy of a Manuel.
You prefer the economy of a manual (for cost reasons?) but you're about to punt hundreds on a new clutch and cable on the strength of a vague description of the "fault" and subsequent internet diagnosis?


In my experience (several years driving customers' cars) circa 2000 and later renaults have VERY heavy clutches. The rate at which the pedal fires back at you with the slightest lift on the clutch is ridiculous.

stevieturbo

17,273 posts

248 months

Thursday 17th October 2013
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tickious said:
Cheers guys! I'll try a new clutch assembly and cable I think. I have thought about an auto but I prefer the economy of a Manuel.
As Nick says. You're going to spend hundreds in the hope it might change things for a while.

Really...stuck in traffic manual or auto will make little odds as far as fuel economy goes.
Driving a manual in heavy traffic is hateful whether the clutch is light or heavy.

By comparison, an auto is soooo much nicer. For me there really wouldnt be any difficulty making the change to auto. Not sure I'd ever buy a French one though lol

tickious

Original Poster:

1,392 posts

175 months

Thursday 17th October 2013
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Ok guys, what would you go for? And economical auto around 4k. Doesn't have to be an estate, but could do with a bit of a boot for 2 year olds gear.

Bennachie

1,090 posts

152 months

Thursday 17th October 2013
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If it is the original cable change it. Pennies if you do it yourself - quite easy. Then see what happens.
I had a Citroen Ax that had a heavy clutch - not as heavy as you suggest yours is and a change was night and day different.

I suggest this is where to start.

tickious

Original Poster:

1,392 posts

175 months

Thursday 17th October 2013
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Bennachie said:
If it is the original cable change it. Pennies if you do it yourself - quite easy. Then see what happens.
I had a Citroen Ax that had a heavy clutch - not as heavy as you suggest yours is and a change was night and day different.

I suggest this is where to start.
I will 1st.
But on the topic of autos, what do people think of the 1.5 diesel colt cz2?

stevieturbo

17,273 posts

248 months

Thursday 17th October 2013
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Dont have any direct experience with it.

But for the most part, Mitsubishi do build very good cars. It's a little obscure, so would likely wouldnt command a premium price like some more mainstream cars would

Certainly take a test drive if you have one local. I'd certainly buy it long before anything French

tickious

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tickious

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175 months

Bennachie

1,090 posts

152 months

Friday 18th October 2013
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Are you looking at torque converter autos or automated manual as both have VERY different characteristics. The former being preferable in heavy traffic.
Look at a Yaris auto.....

tickious

Original Poster:

1,392 posts

175 months

Friday 18th October 2013
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Bennachie said:
Are you looking at torque converter autos or automated manual as both have VERY different characteristics. The former being preferable in heavy traffic.
Look at a Yaris auto.....
You lost me, what's the difference?

stevieturbo

17,273 posts

248 months

Friday 18th October 2013
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tickious said:
You lost me, what's the difference?
The likes of the VW group have their DSG gearboxes. It's basically a manual transmission, clutch, but with automatic control. Still only two pedals.
From a performance perspective...they work great.

From a heavy traffic perspective....maybe not the best choice. Still better than a manual IMO though.

Conventional auto uses a torque convertor, and magic happens to give you that soggy drive feeling. Not so nice from a performance perspective. But from a smooth drive, heavy traffic, smooth shifting etc etc....a much better option.