Jeremy Paxman vs Russell Brand

[Ali G]

Fecal diatribe.

Extensive disinfection was required chez moi following Brands' verbal diarrhoea.

Really, there should be a warning issued before this loon spouts forth in public.

Can't see what Davis could have done to staunch the flow really - short of decking the 'Messiah'.

[turbobloke]

Ali G said:

Fecal diatribe.

Extensive disinfection was required chez moi following Brands' verbal diarrhoea.

Really, there should be a warning issued before this loon spouts forth in public.

Can't see what Davis could have done to staunch the flow really - short of decking the 'Messiah'.

Sounds like your idea would have made for more interesting TV.

[mybrainhurts]

BlackLabel said:

Newsnight had him on again last night. This time it was Evan Davis vs Russell Brand:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VqsFp0J22Hc

FFS...managed half of that tripe.

Somebody stand him in a bucket of water and plug him into the mains.

[dandarez]

mybrainhurts said:

BlackLabel said:

Newsnight had him on again last night. This time it was Evan Davis vs Russell Brand:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VqsFp0J22Hc

FFS...managed half of that tripe.

Somebody stand him in a bucket of water and plug him into the mains.

Agree.

He could change his name to yours then.

[mybrainhurts]

[ninjacost]

He's a champagne socialist with a big mouth can't stand the gobshyte

[turbobloke]

There are rumours that Brand has denied rumours about wanting to run for the Mayor of London role in 2016. Which means it's probably true.

If it also means he wants to be the Mayor's errand boy then fine, otherwise and if any Londoners want him they deserve no better.

[MrBrightSi]

Im on the fence with Brand.


It's funny how people are having a go at him, but there have been a couple threads here who have doubted the political class all the same as him.

[e21Mark]

I don't really have an opinion on him as an individual, although I do know he does a lot for charities related to addiction. I have more of a dislike for aggressive tax avoidance by the likes of Google, Amazon etc and if he does anything to keep the focus on them, I'm OK with it.

[turbobloke]

e21Mark said:

I don't really have an opinion on him as an individual, although I do know he does a lot for charities related to addiction. I have more of a dislike for aggressive tax avoidance by the likes of Google, Amazon etc and if he does anything to keep the focus on them, I'm OK with it.

There's around £150billion of wasted tax and he wants a focus on a few tens of £millions at best that nobody has ever been under any obligation to pay.

Not great prioritising, not great thinking. There might just be an anti-corporate political angle seen as populist and good for PR with teenage deep thinkers. That's hardly a surprise coming from this "champagne socialist with a big mouth" as accurately summed up by ninjacost.

[retrorider]

Nice to see he trusted the corporation that printed and paid him for the book...

[e21Mark]

turbobloke said:

e21Mark said:

I don't really have an opinion on him as an individual, although I do know he does a lot for charities related to addiction. I have more of a dislike for aggressive tax avoidance by the likes of Google, Amazon etc and if he does anything to keep the focus on them, I'm OK with it.

There's around £150billion of wasted tax and he wants a focus on a few tens of £millions at best that nobody has ever been under any obligation to pay.

Was that not one of the points though? That the current establishment allow these companies to avoid paying by removing their obligation?

As for whoever printed his book? I bet he's been to Starbucks too! Damn hypocrite.

[princealbert23]

pilchardthecat said:

nobody ever tries to tax accumulated wealth (which cant be hidden half as easily)

The Mansion Tax?

[steveatesh]

e21Mark said:

Was that not one of the points though? That the current establishment allow these companies to avoid paying by removing their obligation?

At the moment they don't have an obligation to remove, they operate entirely within the financial framework of the EU.

So just for clarity, are you saying they should do away with one of the four pillars of the EU, freedom to move capital?

[e21Mark]

steveatesh said:

e21Mark said:

Was that not one of the points though? That the current establishment allow these companies to avoid paying by removing their obligation?

At the moment they don't have an obligation to remove, they operate entirely within the financial framework of the EU.

So just for clarity, are you saying they should do away with one of the four pillars of the EU, freedom to move capital?

I don't profess to know enough about it, to make any such suggestion. I do however, question the ethics of deliberate and aggressive tax avoidance, to the detriment of our economy.

[WCZ]

it wasn't really an interview imo, it was just Brand shouting over Evan and not answering questions.

Brand is getting increasingly annoying

[anonymous-user]

princealbert23 said:

pilchardthecat said:

nobody ever tries to tax accumulated wealth (which cant be hidden half as easily)

The Mansion Tax?

Inheritance tax?

Capital gains tax?

SDLT?

VAT?

Yes, nobody ever taxes accumulated wealth...........

[mybrainhurts]

e21Mark said:

steveatesh said:

e21Mark said:

Was that not one of the points though? That the current establishment allow these companies to avoid paying by removing their obligation?

At the moment they don't have an obligation to remove, they operate entirely within the financial framework of the EU.

So just for clarity, are you saying they should do away with one of the four pillars of the EU, freedom to move capital?

I don't profess to know enough about it, to make any such suggestion. I do however, question the ethics of deliberate and aggressive tax avoidance, to the detriment of our economy.

There is nothing wrong with tax avoidance, using concessions put in place for valid reasons, such as the stimulation of investment to grow the economy. You need to gen up on these reasons and stop letting your emotions get the better of you.

[FredClogs]

REALIST123 said:

princealbert23 said:

pilchardthecat said:

nobody ever tries to tax accumulated wealth (which cant be hidden half as easily)

The Mansion Tax?

Inheritance tax?

Capital gains tax?

SDLT?

VAT?

Yes, nobody ever taxes accumulated wealth...........

SDLT and VAT are taxes on money transfers, Inheritance tax is just a tax on good fortune and CGT tax is a tax on gain of capital (obviously enough) which is generally but not always largely down to the growth of the economy as a whole and not particularly dependent on an individuals actions or skill in accumulating wealth.

[Rovinghawk]

FredClogs said:

Inheritance tax is just a tax on good fortune

There are some who might question the idea of "good fortune" in these circumstances.