CRAZY: T350 with Tuscan S engine for sale

CRAZY: T350 with Tuscan S engine for sale

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gl911

Original Poster:

76 posts

261 months

Friday 5th November 2004
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As crazy as it sounds, I might have to sell my T350!!!!

The reason being that I can't get the car registered in Luxembourg!!! I have tried pretty much any imaginable avenue, but it seems that it won't happen. The reason being - THIS IS CRAZY! - that the car's emissions are too good!!! The story goes as follows, Lux. car legislation allows for a "lambda" value to be between two variables, highest allowed and lowest. The T350 falls throug because it's value is too good. This country is really f.... up.

I am having the factory look into this, and working it out with the local TVR guys at ACCEL, who are trying to figure out a trick. If this doesn't work over the next days, the car will have to go, as I can't stand the car sitting in ACCEL's showroom.

For those of you who do not know the car or the history, and I know that many do, here is a recap of the features of what is undoubtly one of the fastest TVRs ever build.

This car was delivered new to me by Gatwick TVR and was a VERY special order. The car was ordered in silver with black leather, black lamonta inserts in seats and door panels, grey leather highlights and grey stitching. It also came with air-co and upgraded stereo.

To this I added: factory prepared Tuscan S engine (4 liter), full red rose conversion - including upgraded brakes, Nitron suspension fully adjustable, three piece Racing Hart wheels with P Zeros, special stainless steel sports exhaust.

In addition I paid Gatwick TVR to run the car in, and work out all the engine as well as chassis settings with the new suspension. Since then (3 months ago), the car has not been driven :-( Thus it is still on its initial shakedown miles by Gatwick TVR. The first service has also been carried out. This is basically a new car.

As a result, this turned out to be the most expensive and exclusive T350, but a car that is faster than any Tuscan S, T350 or given its sleeker aerodynamics, it suspension etc. probably faster than a Sagaris - if they ever start delivering them.

I welcome serious offers on the car, and will inform you guys shortly if indeed I have to sell.

A very sad and pissed off G. posting this :-(

rebelstar

1,146 posts

245 months

Friday 5th November 2004
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I was in Lux a few days ago. It's an odd place.

Can you get the car registered in one of the neighbouring countries?

roop

6,012 posts

285 months

Friday 5th November 2004
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That's ridiculous...! I can see what you are so annoyed. Is there anyway you can adjust the fuelling so it's waay out temporarily to fudge the emissions for the test...?

koen

148 posts

273 months

Friday 5th November 2004
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Maybe you can give a call to Marc Minne. He is the (official) TVR importer for Belgium and Luxembourg.
His phone number is +32 9282 3136.
He has registered some cerberas and early Tuscans for Europe as well. Maybe he knows the way to go ?

Good luck !

fish

3,976 posts

283 months

Friday 5th November 2004
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Can't the factory send you a dirtier chip for the ECU and just confirm the car is a one off model which does then have a value that is suitable.

blueyes

4,799 posts

253 months

Friday 5th November 2004
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If it's left hand drive Alessandro from U.K Garage in Milan would probably buy it... and he'd know how to get it registered in Italy without any problems.

gl911

Original Poster:

76 posts

261 months

Friday 5th November 2004
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Thanks guys appreciate all of your feedback. Unfortunately all and more has been tried, including remapping the ECU. The problem is that no matter what you do, you can't get the 4 liter to do what the 3.6 liter claims to do (which is already wrong), thus literally the only solution outside of some "funny" trick, is to change to a 3.6 liter engine for registration. The problem here is that the complete collectors, exhaust and cats are different (this one has high perf cats which I forgot to mention).

In any case ACCEL is looking at it, and I know that they had a word with Marc Minne, but he doesn't have the answer. The guy mapping the computer, is the guy that has already helped the factory with the Tuscan S. This is a f...ing mess!

More to come.

Antwerpman

835 posts

259 months

Friday 5th November 2004
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how much are you looking for it?

I know here in Belgium some people register their cars in Luxembourg for tax reasons - perhaps the reverse is possible?

You could also look at keeping it UK registered and insuring it through Stuart Collins. He doesnt require you to be a UK resident only that the car is UK taxed and MOT'd (only necessary after it is 3 years old) and that the car returns to the UK once per year.

the pits

4,289 posts

241 months

Friday 5th November 2004
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Where can I see pics of the car plus interior etc. it sounds amazing. I've got a sagaris on order at the moment but things have gone very quiet on that front and I'm getting very keen to get into a tvr sometime soon...

sacha

504 posts

255 months

Friday 5th November 2004
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Antwerpman said:

You could also look at keeping it UK registered and insuring it through Stuart Collins. He doesnt require you to be a UK resident only that the car is UK taxed and MOT'd (only necessary after it is 3 years old) and that the car returns to the UK once per year.


who is this stuart collins? would be interested to find out more for insurance abroad?

Antwerpman

835 posts

259 months

Saturday 6th November 2004
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Sacha,

here is the link for the Stuart Collins website

[url]https://www.stuartcollins.com/index1.html[/url]

The insurance isnt cheap compared to if you are insuring a car for normal use in the UK, but I found it comparible to insuring my TT here in Belgium and it saved some of the onerous taxes they have here.

It is also great as you dont have to pretend to be a Uk resident or any other such shady things, everything is completely upfront - reassuring if you ever need to make a claim

Good luck and if you do decide to sell the car let me know what you are looking for price wise....

sacha

504 posts

255 months

Saturday 6th November 2004
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THanks for that, will be looking into it, but have sold the t350, so have time before the new one arrives.

Sacha

gl911

Original Poster:

76 posts

261 months

Saturday 6th November 2004
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Will check on UK registration and insurance. That might be the way to go.

"the pits", if you provide me with an email address, I will provide you with all the details and pictures.

Gerard

No 1

225 posts

251 months

Sunday 7th November 2004
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I find it hard to be sympathetic with somebody with such a fabulous collection of cars! There is a fine line between envy and jealousy, and I can't work out which side of it you are on.

Seriously though, I hope you get it sorted out, it would be a real shame if you go to all the effort to get the car sorted, and then are unable to drive it.

gl911

Original Poster:

76 posts

261 months

Sunday 7th November 2004
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Jim,

I love sharing my passion for cars, and as a matter of fact, I can easily get excited about cars, regardless of price, if they are fun and specially if the owner likes to talk "petrol". Thus in most cases people that know me, tend to fall on the positive side of things ;-) Although I have had some "special" encounters.

In any case, and even if I had 10 times as many cars, I do care about each one of them and I certainly hate wasting money because of bureaucracy - which will be the case if I can't register this TVR.

G.

swilly

9,699 posts

275 months

Monday 8th November 2004
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Move out of Luxembourg, to a surrounding country.

the pits

4,289 posts

241 months

Monday 8th November 2004
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the pits e-mail address is www.jonnypittard@hotmail.com

have you driven a regular T350? How does the 4 litre compare?

gl911

Original Poster:

76 posts

261 months

Monday 8th November 2004
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I have driven a std T350 and this is MUCH faster, specially once in gear where torque really plays (Albeit I haven't used the full RPM range yet). This car is faster than a Tuscan S. Brakes are Red Rose spec, suspension is fully adjustable and made to spec Nitron (three sets of dampers were tested on the car before retaining this current setup). Wheels are lightweight modular (3 piece) wheels from Hart in Japan.

The guys at Gatwick TVR (Peter and/or Paul) can provide all details about the car, mods and the "drive-in" mileage.

G.

the pits

4,289 posts

241 months

Monday 8th November 2004
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I know, I've met Paul and very helpful he is too. I've actually got my Sagaris order with Gatwick TVR and Paul did mention your car to me. Sounds a bit special...

Antwerpman

835 posts

259 months

Monday 8th November 2004
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so is it for sale or isn't it?