5" gauge Stanier Duchess steam loco

5" gauge Stanier Duchess steam loco

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Dawg

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Saturday 9th November 2013
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Just thought I'd show the latest addition to the family - a 5" gauge live steam scale replica of 46256 Sir William A Stanier FRS named after the designer. Original worked between London Euston and Glasgow 1947 - 1964

My father built this to 90% completion from works drawings and scaling off photos. He died in 2008 and so I thought I'd get someone to finish it.

Lynx model works in Mablethorpe did it - and what a result. At 7ft long it's not the easiest to move...




Edited by Dawg on Saturday 9th November 20:54

goforbroke

937 posts

217 months

Saturday 9th November 2013
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That is awesome. What a lovely thing to have as a reminder of your Dad.

Red Firecracker

5,276 posts

226 months

Sunday 10th November 2013
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Lovely.

drivin_me_nuts

17,949 posts

210 months

Sunday 10th November 2013
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That is most impressive.

Please, when you have the chance, can you post up some more details photos, especially the cab area and the motion.

What a wonderful living breathing legacy to remember your dad by.

RichB

51,433 posts

283 months

Sunday 10th November 2013
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Wonderful piece of model engineering, do you belong to a railway club or intending to join one? You must post some photos of it in action biggrin

P5Nij

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171 months

Sunday 10th November 2013
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What a beautiful model! Here's 46256 on Rugby Shed in 1964, not sure what it was doing there but the Rugby crew who'd just brought it on shed look very pleased with themselves...


Dawg

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Sunday 10th November 2013
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Never seen that photo of 46256 before. Thanks smile. It was the very last Stanier pacific to run at the end of September 1964. By December it had been cut up - it really should have been preserved, but the sheer speed that this class of loco were despached by the oxyacetylene torch was quite astonishing. A lot of other types of locos hung around in other scrapyards for at least a couple of years, however Cashmores at Great Bridge were, sadly, super efficient. By early 1965, they'd all gone apart from 3..


At first, i had the idea to finish it, and i completed the cladding with washout plugs around the firebox, however it quickly transpired that there was a lot of fiddly work which really was beyond me - especially as there were no scale drawings available..

As for running - I belong to the Wigan & District Model Engineering Society and we have an extensive track (3 1/2" and 5" gauge) at Haigh Hall. I'll be running it in the spring. It's already been hydraulic and steam tested by Lynx however I have to get this done again at the club.

Roll on March!



Edited by Dawg on Sunday 10th November 18:27

petemurphy

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182 months

Sunday 10th November 2013
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awesome my dad does the same thing is v impressive

Bebee

4,678 posts

224 months

Sunday 10th November 2013
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Looks superb, more pics please.
I went to York NRM couple of weeks back, not been before but I'm starting to appreciate the steam loco.



Edited by Bebee on Sunday 10th November 18:40

P5Nij

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Sunday 10th November 2013
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Dawg said:
Never seen that photo of 46256 before. Thanks smile. It was the very last Stanier pacific to run at the end of September 1964. By December it had been cut up - it really should have been preserved, but the sheer speed that this class of loco were despached by the oxyacetylene torch was quite astonishing. A lot of other types of locos hung around in other scrapyards for at least a couple of years, however Cashmores at Great Bridge were, sadly, super efficient. By early 1965, they'd all gone apart from 3..


At first, i had the idea to finish it, and i completed the cladding with washout plugs around the firebox, however it quickly transpired that there was a lot of fiddly work which really was beyond me - especially as there were no scale drawings available..

As for running - I belong to the Wigan & District Model Engineering Society and we have an extensive track (3 1/2" and 5" gauge) at Haigh Hall. I'll be running it in the spring. It's already been hydraulic and steam tested by Lynx however I have to get this done again at the club.

Roll on March!



Edited by Dawg on Sunday 10th November 18:27
The photo came from a retired Rugby Driver who got it from another Rugby man who actually took, my print is is a second generation copy of the original. It has been posted online elsewhere once or twice though! There is another somewhere taken on the same day from a different angle, if I can find it I'll post it on here.

By '64 the remaining Big Uns were often seen at Rugby on parcels trains and the odd overnight freight ;-)

RichB

51,433 posts

283 months

Sunday 10th November 2013
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Here's another but the caption says it's taken at Camden.


46256, Sir William Stanier FRS. by steventoogood53, on Flickr

Dawg

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Sunday 10th November 2013
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Wow - not seen that one either! Stunning looking engines - I was only born long after steam disappeared from BR but I just could never get that same sense of awe from Diesels & Electrics...

Kneetrembler

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201 months

Sunday 10th November 2013
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Absolutely stunning, and a wonderful thing to remember your father by, very clever man.

PanzerCommander

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217 months

Monday 11th November 2013
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Brilliant piece of model engineering.

Please post a few more photos, and a video of it running when you have the chance smile

Stedman

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191 months

Tuesday 12th November 2013
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Fantastic. How much does it weigh? And as someone has said above, please get more pictures and videos up when you can

Squirrelofwoe

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175 months

Wednesday 13th November 2013
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Absolutely stunning.

I have relatives who used to build & run (what I assume was 5" guage) locomotives at the model railway in Quainton, Buckinghamshire when I was a kid- I was fortunate enough to get the opportunity to drive various steam & electric ones after the circuit had closed to the public for the evening (an incredible experience, especially at that age!) and I can only wonder at the level of skill and dedication required to build such a thing.

Would love to see more photos!

Dawg

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173 months

Wednesday 13th November 2013
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I'll get some more pics up this weekend - it's currently boxed up in my front room


Weight? Not sure, but I need at least one other (fit) person to move it. I have a portable hydraulic lift to get it into the back of my car.


My dad started this back in 1980 - it followed a 3 1/2" gauge Stanier pacific Duchess Of Hamilton and an 0-4-0 5" gauge Ajax tank loco which I still have and are about to be refurbished - I can do this at least... Anyhow, he had a massive heart attack in '84 when he was only 44 and was not in good shape after that. Two more heart attacks and a stroke hindered any progress - he completed a 5" gauge 0-4-0 saddle tank I started when I was 14.

Yes, he was a hugely talented man - at the same time he started this loco he started a Union Pacific Big Boy 4-8-8-4 in 3 1/2" gauge. He had done about 60% of that - I had to sell because I could not afford to have it completed (probably £20k's worth of work) and it was starting to deteriorate in the garage.. I'll dig out a photo..

RDMcG

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206 months

Wednesday 13th November 2013
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Dawg said:
I'll get some more pics up this weekend - it's currently boxed up in my front room


Weight? Not sure, but I need at least one other (fit) person to move it. I have a portable hydraulic lift to get it into the back of my car.


My dad started this back in 1980 - it followed a 3 1/2" gauge Stanier pacific Duchess Of Hamilton and an 0-4-0 5" gauge Ajax tank loco which I still have and are about to be refurbished - I can do this at least... Anyhow, he had a massive heart attack in '84 when he was only 44 and was not in good shape after that. Two more heart attacks and a stroke hindered any progress - he completed a 5" gauge 0-4-0 saddle tank I started when I was 14.

Yes, he was a hugely talented man - at the same time he started this loco he started a Union Pacific Big Boy 4-8-8-4 in 3 1/2" gauge. He had done about 60% of that - I had to sell because I could not afford to have it completed (probably £20k's worth of work) and it was starting to deteriorate in the garage.. I'll dig out a photo..
Amazing work, and a great legacy from your father.

mrmaggit

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247 months

Thursday 14th November 2013
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FYI Union Pacific are restoring one of the full size Big Boys, expecting it to be done in about 5 years.

Dawg

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Thursday 14th November 2013
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Yes - I've seen the reports. When it's done I'll be making a trip over there to see it.