Dog People....

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DoubleSix

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11,708 posts

176 months

Monday 11th November 2013
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... are annoying I'm finding.

Some good friends of ours have a hyperactive bull terrier and we went to visit with our 8 month old recently. Now, the breed and personality of the animal is such that it's not really compatible with a baby and they understand this however rather than put the dog outside we were stuffed into a seperate living space while the precious mut had free run of the whole kitchen living area. Who does that??

The space we spent the weekend socialising in was hard floored and unsuitable for a child taking it's first steps but I had great view across the corridor to the carpeted luxury the dog enjoyed. Cue the days activities; where shall we go? "oh not there... they don't allow dogs" Oh, ok how about that nice National Trust country home for a poke around "oh no dogs allowed" FFS!! Even going out for breakfast was fking impossible due to having to take into account this fking dog. "We can't leave him behind, he'll get lonely" etc etc

Now I know not all dog owners are like this but seriously, I've come across quite a few now that treat them as little human beings with all the same rights and considerations. To me a dog is a working animal and should be treated as such as much as is possible. I'll no doubt get flamed by dog loving element on PH but what is it about the some dog owners that they are prepared to compromise every element of there lives just for the pleasure of picking up hot animal st on a daily basis. I don't get it...

Cheers, feel better now.


Jimmy No Hands

5,011 posts

156 months

Monday 11th November 2013
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That would drive me barking mad too.

rhinochopig

17,932 posts

198 months

Monday 11th November 2013
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If they treat him like that - the alpha male - then he may well have issues later. A dog is a dog, not a bloody child.

Rude-boy

22,227 posts

233 months

Monday 11th November 2013
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I'll no doubt get flamed by dappier parents on PH but what is it about the some parents that they are prepared to compromise every element of there lives just for the pleasure of cleaning up hot st on a daily basis until they have taught them how to use a loo and then end up tied to them for 18+ years. I don't get it...

Cheers, feel better now.

OzzyR1

5,714 posts

232 months

Monday 11th November 2013
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Perhaps they have the same feeling for their dog as you do for your kid - lets face it, only you think the sun shines out of it's backside, to most other people it's a noisy, messy annoyance.

what is it about the some dog owners people with kids that they are prepared to compromise every element of there lives just for the pleasure of picking up hot animal st changing scensoredy nappies on a daily basis. I don't get it...

Triumph Man

8,683 posts

168 months

Monday 11th November 2013
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I'm a dog person but the dog would come second. If people were visiting I certainly wouldn't let the dog dictate things!

AJI

5,180 posts

217 months

Monday 11th November 2013
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I can see this thread turning in to a mud slinging match in quicktime.

I am glad to be in the position that I do not have a dog, nor want one. I also do not have any sprogs, nor want any.

wink

DoubleSix

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11,708 posts

176 months

Monday 11th November 2013
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rhinochopig said:
If they treat him like that - the alpha male - then he may well have issues later. A dog is a dog, not a bloody child.
Worse still they've just had a baby themselves. My OH grew up around many dogs (in a rural setting where they were actually treated as dogs) and also expresses concern over the way they mollicoddle this particular animal. As a guest I just resent having my precious free time compromised and my daughter put second to a dog. If I hadn't known the guy for such a long time I think I might have just left tbh...

Nick1point9

3,917 posts

180 months

Monday 11th November 2013
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Yep, because that's what all dog owners are like. Just like all parents are the same. And all Asian people. And all men. And all women.

Maybe your friends are just dicks?

Rude-boy

22,227 posts

233 months

Monday 11th November 2013
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rhinochopig said:
If they treat him like that - the alpha male - then he may well have issues later. A dog is a dog, not a bloody child.
Half joking post of mine above aside, I agree with this. In any event don't you usually put the dog in the room with easy clean flooring...

Whilst for some a dog is a substitute for a child you must not let it believe that it is the leader of the pack or even close.

jasongtr

415 posts

250 months

Monday 11th November 2013
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Triumph Man said:
I'm a dog person but the dog would come second. If people were visiting I certainly wouldn't let the dog dictate things!
echo that completely, but OP if you knew your friends were like that (maybe you didn't) why go there to start with?

leafspring

7,032 posts

137 months

Monday 11th November 2013
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That treatment will cause hierarchy and behavioural problems no question.

We love our dogs but if we go out, they stay home and if we have guests the fuzzy nut cases go outside or up stairs to their beds in Dads room.

ali_kat

31,988 posts

221 months

Monday 11th November 2013
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You are a guest in their house, you abide by how they live as they would at your house (eg they visit you & their beloved dog has to stay outside because you don't believe dogs should be in the house/your child can't be trusted around it wink)

ETA - Rude Boy beat me to the rest of it & said it better hehe

DoubleSix

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11,708 posts

176 months

Monday 11th November 2013
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OzzyR1 said:
Perhaps they have the same feeling for their dog as you do for your kid - lets face it, only you think the sun shines out of it's backside, to most other people it's a noisy, messy annoyance.

what is it about the some dog owners people with kids that they are prepared to compromise every element of there lives just for the pleasure of picking up hot animal st changing scensoredy nappies on a daily basis. I don't get it...
I'm sorry but only a dog owner of the type in my OP could draw such an analogy...

Fishtigua

9,786 posts

195 months

Monday 11th November 2013
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Triumph Man said:
I'm a dog person but the dog would come second. If people were visiting I certainly wouldn't let the dog dictate things!
This.

I'm a dog man too, but there's a limit.












DoubleSix

Original Poster:

11,708 posts

176 months

Monday 11th November 2013
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jasongtr said:
Triumph Man said:
I'm a dog person but the dog would come second. If people were visiting I certainly wouldn't let the dog dictate things!
echo that completely, but OP if you knew your friends were like that (maybe you didn't) why go there to start with?
Because I'm always assured it "won't be a problem" by all parties, only to find it won't be a problem for them, whilst I'm left making all the compromises.

backwoodsman

2,466 posts

129 months

Monday 11th November 2013
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Triumph Man said:
I'm a dog person but the dog would come second. If people were visiting I certainly wouldn't let the dog dictate things!
I agree 100%, that will find the dog very dominating of them in the future.

DoubleSix

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11,708 posts

176 months

Monday 11th November 2013
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ali_kat said:
You are a guest in their house, you abide by how they live as they would at your house (eg they visit you & their beloved dog has to stay outside because you don't believe dogs should be in the house/your child can't be trusted around it wink)

ETA - Rude Boy beat me to the rest of it & said it better hehe
Well I couldn't disagree more I'm afraid.

When I have guests I want them to feel at home, as if they aren't actually 'guests' as such i.e. nothing is too much trouble and their enjoyment is my priority. It's tiring, but I pride myself on being a good host.

James P

2,955 posts

237 months

Monday 11th November 2013
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ali_kat said:
You are a guest in their house, you abide by how they live as they would at your house (eg they visit you & their beloved dog has to stay outside because you don't believe dogs should be in the house/your child can't be trusted around it wink)

ETA - Rude Boy beat me to the rest of it & said it better hehe
Could be a neat solution. It looks like they would not come to visit without beloved dog so everyone gets to live as they choose to smile

benters

1,459 posts

134 months

Monday 11th November 2013
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Dont like Dogs, never had, never likely too, that said i do understand the pleasure they give to people. that said If people want to treat their pet in the manner you describe which seemed to make you feel secondary to the dog, then i guess thats their call, after all its their house. Invite them to yours next time, and be friends with them, your paths are bound to cross in the Park soon, you will be chasing after your kid, they will be clearing up after their beloved mutt. Dogs and parks and kids, what fun it must be !!