Padlocked Himself In A Sportsbag

Padlocked Himself In A Sportsbag

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Corpulent Tosser

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5,459 posts

245 months

Wednesday 13th November 2013
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The death of MI6 spy Gareth Williams, whose body was found in a padlocked sports bag, was probably an accident, police have said.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-24927078

Now I have not seen the bag nor the padlock, but I would have thought the probablility was that someone else was involved.


Shaw Tarse

31,543 posts

203 months

Wednesday 13th November 2013
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This topic may have been done before?

rohrl

8,725 posts

145 months

Wednesday 13th November 2013
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On the balance of probabilities it looks like it was an accident. Hmm. It's a good job that the FSB/Mossad etc. don't specialise in killing people in ways that look like accidents.

I'm not saying he was definitely murdered but I am saying that the police don't really have a clue whether or not he was murdered and that MI6 went out of their way to be unhelpful in the early days of the investigation.

greygoose

8,255 posts

195 months

Wednesday 13th November 2013
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rohrl said:
On the balance of probabilities it looks like it was an accident. Hmm. It's a good job that the FSB/Mossad etc. don't specialise in killing people in ways that look like accidents.

I'm not saying he was definitely murdered but I am saying that the police don't really have a clue whether or not he was murdered and that MI6 went out of their way to be unhelpful in the early days of the investigation.
To be fair I think they would go for a more obvious type of accident than suffocating in a bag (suffocating in a bag Stephen Milligan style for example).

Oakey

27,561 posts

216 months

Wednesday 13th November 2013
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greygoose said:
To be fair I think they would go for a more obvious type of accident than suffocating in a bag (suffocating in a bag Stephen Milligan style for example).
don't you know that autoeroticaspyhxiwk is the go to method for assassinating people?

greygoose

8,255 posts

195 months

Wednesday 13th November 2013
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Oakey said:
greygoose said:
To be fair I think they would go for a more obvious type of accident than suffocating in a bag (suffocating in a bag Stephen Milligan style for example).
don't you know that autoeroticaspyhxiwk is the go to method for assassinating people?
You've blown it for the world's assassins now, watch out for a banana skin on your stairs and a misplaced wood chipper mysteriously left on at the bottom.

Mobile Chicane

20,815 posts

212 months

Wednesday 13th November 2013
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So how do they explain why, in the middle of August, the central heating was on full blast?

Why was the bag in the bath? Shirley most fetishes take place in the bedroom.

There can only be one answer: he was rendered unconscious by some sort of sedative, then placed in the bag to suffocate. In the bath to save juices leaking through the floor into the flat below.

The heating was turned on to speed up the process of decomposition, making the sedative and any incriminating DNA harder to track.

TTwiggy

11,536 posts

204 months

Wednesday 13th November 2013
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Surely a bath full of acid would be the 'easiest' way of removing evidence?

Rude-boy

22,227 posts

233 months

Wednesday 13th November 2013
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I know nothing but the above all sounds about what i have been thinking.

The only real question in my head is was he bumped off intentionally or did a sexy time partner get things wrong and take it from there.

If the latter, I wonder why SIS we quite so helpful, one might wonder as to the identity of the missing party and if they were/are also in the employ of SIS.

TheSnitch

2,342 posts

154 months

Wednesday 13th November 2013
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Much though I sympathize with this poor chap and his family, I think the fact that he had been previously found tied to the bed, and had to shout for his landlady to free him, suggests that this was a recreational thing, not a hit by Mossad or whatever.

http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/body-in-the-b...


CommanderJameson

22,096 posts

226 months

Wednesday 13th November 2013
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The Evidence said:
None of his DNA was found on the lock attached to the bag and his palm prints were not found on the rim of the bath.
But yeah, he totally padlocked himself into a sports bag in his bath with the CH on full blast in August.

Because people do that all the time.

LaurasOtherHalf

21,429 posts

196 months

Wednesday 13th November 2013
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Mobile Chicane said:
Why was the bag in the bath? Shirley most fetishes take place in the bedroom.
I'd wager that most fetishes don't take place in the bedroom!

Tango13

8,423 posts

176 months

Wednesday 13th November 2013
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Mobile Chicane said:
There can only be one answer: he was rendered unconscious by some sort of sedative, then placed in the bag to suffocate. In the bath to save juices leaking through the floor into the flat below.

The heating was turned on to speed up the process of decomposition, making the sedative and any incriminating DNA harder to track.
Is this from the new updated version of Cluedo? laugh

Birkin1932

784 posts

139 months

Wednesday 13th November 2013
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This lads parents live near me. Some of the rumours around this case would blow your mind.

http://wikispooks.com/wiki/Gareth_Williams

Nuff said

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Rollcage

11,327 posts

192 months

Wednesday 13th November 2013
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Birkin1932 said:
This lads parents live near me. Some of the rumours around this case would blow your mind.

http://wikispooks.com/wiki/Gareth_Williams

Nuff said

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I think I might need my tinfoil hat on before I read that site!

Birkin1932

784 posts

139 months

Wednesday 13th November 2013
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How did you know about the tinfoil hat????

B17NNS

18,506 posts

247 months

Wednesday 13th November 2013
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Tango13 said:
Is this from the new updated version of Cluedo? laugh
hehe

aw51 121565

4,771 posts

233 months

Thursday 14th November 2013
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Reminds me of Douglas Adams' book "The long dark tea time of the soul" (I hope I got this right!! redface ) - where Dirk Gently visits a house only to find the occupier's severed head revolving on the turntable of his record player and the police are saying it is a case of suicide... hehe

The Met Police continue to suffer credibility issues scratchchin - no, that's not news (or even 'news') frown !

And the reporting in a newspaper item upthread is pretty abysmal as well rofl - this chap's landlord/landlady commenting on his alleged compromising situation, non-proclivities and habits in front of the coroner? Have another rofl !! Blimey!! etc... "We talked about this and blah conjecture blah womens' clothes blah whatever..." GIVE US A BREAK!! silly

Corpulent Tosser

Original Poster:

5,459 posts

245 months

Thursday 14th November 2013
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Mobile Chicane said:
So how do they explain why, in the middle of August, the central heating was on full blast?

Why was the bag in the bath? Shirley most fetishes take place in the bedroom.

There can only be one answer: he was rendered unconscious by some sort of sedative, then placed in the bag to suffocate. In the bath to save juices leaking through the floor into the flat below.

The heating was turned on to speed up the process of decomposition, making the sedative and any incriminating DNA harder to track.
This sounds much more plausible than him padlocking himself in a bag.

Halmyre

11,185 posts

139 months

Thursday 14th November 2013
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The moral here is, do not start a course in DIY Escapology until you are in possession of all your course material.