Is the 991 GT3 the greatest 911 and Sportscar ever made?

Is the 991 GT3 the greatest 911 and Sportscar ever made?

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langdale

290 posts

136 months

Tuesday 27th May 2014
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APOLO1 said:
respectfully....that is v low miles a such will command a good price....I don't call 20k in 11 years, a lot when the others have gone up 4,5,6,7 fold
respectfully the original point wasn't by how much in % terms it had gone up just that it hadn't.
The fact remains that it HAS albeit it far less than the 4ltr and eye I personally would vote for the 4ltr but not just for current value reasons

Edited by langdale on Tuesday 27th May 17:22

mpbcs

301 posts

214 months

Tuesday 27th May 2014
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Why not post this on a more general forum instead of one in which there might be a slightly biased crowd... I'd like to bet it is one of the best cars of its time (though how any car with so many problems can ever be given that moniker is beyond me), but I'd be sure that most with a more neutral view of the world won't say it is the best ever.

sidicks

25,218 posts

221 months

Tuesday 27th May 2014
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mpbcs said:
Why not post this on a more general forum instead of one in which there might be a slightly biased crowd... I'd like to bet it is one of the best cars of its time (though how any car with so many problems can ever be given that moniker is beyond me), but I'd be sure that most with a more neutral view of the world won't say it is the best ever.
"So many" problems?

Certainly one, well publicised, problem with the engine (which has (apparently) been resolved). What else?

Edited by sidicks on Tuesday 27th May 17:49

APOLO1

5,256 posts

194 months

Tuesday 27th May 2014
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anonymous said:
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only jesting with ya....mate.....lot of my friends have 6RS,...apparently they are the most focused of the bread....I hear that the 991RS gets back down this route......

NIgt3

612 posts

174 months

Tuesday 27th May 2014
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anonymous said:
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Agree cmoose 6rs will definitely increase in value and is a great car!! As u said some people want different things and also some people want the new best easy to drive new toy, Apollo is one of those people!

NIgt3

612 posts

174 months

Tuesday 27th May 2014
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anonymous said:
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Agree cmoose 6rs will definitely increase in value and is a great car!! As u said some people want different things and also some people want the new best easy to drive new toy, Apollo is one of those people!

hornbaek

3,673 posts

235 months

Tuesday 27th May 2014
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I think that a mayor reason behind "older" cars holding their values, is that fewer people choose to buy new cars due to the fact that the driving experience only comes to life at speeds well over the legal limit and hence there is no real value for the extra money. Heavy early depreciation on new models stimulates this trend even further. So yes newer is always better but whether it is better value is another question.

mollytherocker

14,366 posts

209 months

Tuesday 27th May 2014
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hornbaek said:
I think that a mayor reason behind "older" cars holding their values, is that fewer people choose to buy new cars due to the fact that the driving experience only comes to life at speeds well over the legal limit and hence there is no real value for the extra money. Heavy early depreciation on new models stimulates this trend even further. So yes newer is always better but whether it is better value is another question.
I agree with your first point. I can get my thrills from older cars at sane speeds. Getting a modern Porsche to move about a bit requires very high speeds.

heebeegeetee

28,697 posts

248 months

Tuesday 27th May 2014
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anonymous said:
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It seems according to those who've owned them, that doesn't include the model of GT which you covet.

But are you saying the likes of a Bugatti T35 is ste compared to a Golf GTi?

ORD

18,107 posts

127 months

Tuesday 27th May 2014
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mollytherocker said:
I agree with your first point. I can get my thrills from older cars at sane speeds. Getting a modern Porsche to move about a bit requires very high speeds.
I agree with the sentiment but this is maybe a bit overstated. Not many (if any) Porsche drivers choose low grip tyres to help with the over-abundance of stickiness. I imagine any modern Porsche would move around a fair bit on half worn ditch finders. My car is becoming a fair bit more playful as the tyres approach replacement point.

langdale

290 posts

136 months

Tuesday 27th May 2014
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1, 997 4ltr
2, 997 gen 2 RS
3, 996 RS
4, 964 RS
993 RS
993 turbo

Sorry was I allowed that many votes ? 😛

Carl_Docklands

Original Poster:

12,165 posts

262 months

Tuesday 27th May 2014
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ORD said:
mollytherocker said:
I agree with your first point. I can get my thrills from older cars at sane speeds. Getting a modern Porsche to move about a bit requires very high speeds.
I agree with the sentiment but this is maybe a bit overstated. Not many (if any) Porsche drivers choose low grip tyres to help with the over-abundance of stickiness. I imagine any modern Porsche would move around a fair bit on half worn ditch finders. My car is becoming a fair bit more playful as the tyres approach replacement point.
My Turbo will move around fairly easily on Bridgestones due to the abundance of low-end torque.

Carl_Docklands

Original Poster:

12,165 posts

262 months

Thursday 27th November 2014
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Steve Rance said:
Something to travel very quickly and effortlessly in - towards to top

As a driving experience - towards the bottom

It seems that - these days - Porsche are targeting the former because there are a lot more of them ( who can blame them) On that basis - ie for the majority; yes no doubt it's the best.
Ready to revisit this one ?

Steve Rance

5,446 posts

231 months

Thursday 27th November 2014
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Absolutely not Old Boy! My feelings remain the same unfortunately. In fact, so dreary are porsches current offerings - and so uttely unaffordable is anything now 911 that gives the driver the remotest feeling that he or she is actually connected to it's driving controls, that I have sought satisfaction in a rather delightful little Elise S1 Sport 190.




Mermaid

21,492 posts

171 months

Thursday 27th November 2014
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Easier to drive at 8/10ths for most, than the earlier versions - the rest requires a lot of skill.

Carl_Docklands

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12,165 posts

262 months

Thursday 27th November 2014
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Steve Rance said:
Absolutely not Old Boy! My feelings remain the same unfortunately. In fact, so dreary are porsches current offerings - and so uttely unaffordable is anything now 911 that gives the driver the remotest feeling that he or she is actually connected to it's driving controls, that I have sought satisfaction in a rather delightful little Elise S1 Sport 190.

bow

Zyp, looks like we found your next car then:



I like the colour.


Steve Rance

5,446 posts

231 months

Thursday 27th November 2014
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Nope. Mine's Azure blue. Original SVO car

sidicks

25,218 posts

221 months

Thursday 27th November 2014
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Steve Rance said:
My feelings remain the same unfortunately. In fact, so dreary are porsches current offerings - and so uttely unaffordable is anything now 911 that gives the driver the remotest feeling that he or she is actually connected to it's driving controls, that I have sought satisfaction in a rather delightful little Elise S1 Sport 190.
I'm sure you're a great racing driver, but the weight of opinion is definitely against you on this!

mollytherocker

14,366 posts

209 months

Thursday 27th November 2014
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sidicks said:
Steve Rance said:
My feelings remain the same unfortunately. In fact, so dreary are porsches current offerings - and so uttely unaffordable is anything now 911 that gives the driver the remotest feeling that he or she is actually connected to it's driving controls, that I have sought satisfaction in a rather delightful little Elise S1 Sport 190.
I'm sure you're a great racing driver, but the weight of opinion is definitely against you on this!
Of course the weight of opinion is against him, Porsche know their customers.

It doesn't make him wrong though.

sidicks

25,218 posts

221 months

Thursday 27th November 2014
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mollytherocker said:
Of course the weight of opinion is against him, Porsche know their customers.

It doesn't make him wrong though.
I'm sure you believe that..