Ford to reveal next generation Mustang on 5 Dec 2013

Ford to reveal next generation Mustang on 5 Dec 2013

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cardigankid

8,849 posts

212 months

Saturday 24th January 2015
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No doubt this is a superb piece of kit.

If you read the small print you will note that once you place your deposit Ford will hold the price.

All things considered if they add the Recaros and convince me that I will get the car straight off the line, they can have the deposit. If I have to wait till 2016 it's a Shelby 350GT

rix

2,780 posts

190 months

Saturday 24th January 2015
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I know it may sound a little greedy but do you tink there'll be any prospect of a discount on these at anytimee? There cant be many fords that sell at list price?!

Roo

11,503 posts

207 months

Saturday 24th January 2015
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PumaDal said:
No recaro option though in the UK. Rubbish.

Hopefully the Shelby 350 will include them (if we get that over here):

http://www.roadandtrack.com/new-cars/news/a3582/fi...
Grey import LHD only if you want one.

cardigankid

8,849 posts

212 months

Saturday 24th January 2015
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rix said:
I know it may sound a little greedy but do you tink there'll be any prospect of a discount on these at anytime? There cant be many fords that sell at list price?!
At the current price level I cannot see that happening. The dealers' margin can't be that high, nor the manufacturers. The way you make money in mass production is keep your variations limited and keep your line in full production. I think that we are in an era where the manufacturers are trying to build a customer base to allow them to do that. BMW can offer substantial discounts on cars but these start in the £70k's. Merc do similar. JLR so far aren't playing but may have to. Ford are being much more up front, and I think that in the Mustang they have a product which can go global if they handle it right. They seem to have recognised that selling a few LHD grey imports inflated prices is taking them nowhere. They are going to attack the sports car market for the young guy in his late 20's and early 30's head on, and I think they are going to smash down an open door, because what is competing with them.

I expect the new Mustang to be on a waiting list from now until the end of production.

cardigankid

8,849 posts

212 months

Saturday 24th January 2015
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Roo said:
Grey import LHD only if you want one.
Not for me. They are bound to introduce it as an option, and if they don't they can fk off.

rix

2,780 posts

190 months

Saturday 24th January 2015
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Don't get me wrong, its great value but to say that there is no margin?? Ford have a history of heavy discounting, a focus ST for example can be had with a 20% discount on list. The trouble with a brand becoming rebound for discounting is that it become an expectation!

Fartgalen

6,636 posts

207 months

Saturday 24th January 2015
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WTF are you people on ? The price is only just announced (and a surprisingly good price it is) and you think you might get a discount ? The car's still about a year away from delivery for the UK FFS - if you order now.

croyde

22,857 posts

230 months

Saturday 24th January 2015
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hehe

Come on! we are not talking about shopping cars that are already lined up in their thousands at UK docks around the country. This is an enthusiast's car seemingly in great demand but short supply.

I normally back the wrong horse but in this case I have staked my money on one and am pretty sure it will be a winner. My big worry is that it will be so in demand that they will become the most nicked car and insurance will be nigh on impossible.

It might be the booze talking but I am seriously using the time before the arrival of the car to revamp my life, mainly by moving out of London to get nicer cheaper digs with space for a couple of cars and bikes with the benefit of cheaper insurance, hic!

cardigankid

8,849 posts

212 months

Sunday 25th January 2015
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rix said:
Don't get me wrong, its great value but to say that there is no margin?? Ford have a history of heavy discounting, a focus ST for example can be had with a 20% discount on list. The trouble with a brand becoming rebound for discounting is that it become an expectation!
You don't seriously expect to be able to buy a 5 Litre V8 Coupe with all the bits except decent seats for the price of a top end MX5? I didn't say there was no margin but I think it will be small. What commission are they going to pay a salesman for selling one of these? A cardboard cutout of Lee Iacocca holding a bucket for order forms could do it. It's as plain as your nose the problem is going to be getting a hold of the things. They are going to be trying to convert customers to Mondeo ST's and all sorts of crap.

Roo

11,503 posts

207 months

Sunday 25th January 2015
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cardigankid said:
Roo said:
Grey import LHD only if you want one.
Not for me. They are bound to introduce it as an option, and if they don't they can fk off.
They've already said it won't be coming to the UK.

rix

2,780 posts

190 months

Sunday 25th January 2015
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cardigankid said:
You don't seriously expect to be able to buy a 5 Litre V8 Coupe with all the bits except decent seats for the price of a top end MX5? I didn't say there was no margin but I think it will be small. What commission are they going to pay a salesman for selling one of these? A cardboard cutout of Lee Iacocca holding a bucket for order forms could do it. It's as plain as your nose the problem is going to be getting a hold of the things. They are going to be trying to convert customers to Mondeo ST's and all sorts of crap.
I wouldn't be quite so sure. They'll still be a niche car, especially the v8. Fuel consumption and VED is still a big factor for many would be buyers. The Monaro, for example, was a pretty similar formula (if you could see past the tacky VXR branding) but it was never a massive seller - all for the better residuals now!

cardigankid

8,849 posts

212 months

Monday 2nd March 2015
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Speaking to a couple of dealers I am told that almost all orders are for the V8 - its what I would expect.

croyde

22,857 posts

230 months

Monday 2nd March 2015
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Thing is did Ford expect that smile

Longnose

248 posts

113 months

Tuesday 3rd March 2015
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Have Ford missed a trick in not offering Highland Green for people who remember Bullitt? The range of colours is very disappointing.

cardigankid

8,849 posts

212 months

Tuesday 3rd March 2015
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Is Guard not almost the same thing?

Roo

11,503 posts

207 months

Tuesday 3rd March 2015
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Longnose said:
Have Ford missed a trick in not offering Highland Green for people who remember Bullitt? The range of colours is very disappointing.
Since the original it's only been offered on limited edition Bullitt Mustangs. There isn't one of those available for the 6g car, yet.

Longnose

248 posts

113 months

Thursday 5th March 2015
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Highland Green is a paler and distinctive green which would go well with saddle trim. The colours on offer are either indistinguishable shades of sludge or primary school crayons. A missed opportunity I think, but I'll probably still buy one.

lee jasp 48

47 posts

110 months

Thursday 5th March 2015
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Have to agree with the colour pallet i,m afraid !

I'v gone for the Guard green, ( too old at 48 now for yellow or orange cars ! ) BUT i'm still a bit indecisive . Looks a bit grey and dull in some light although in sunshine it looks good .

A few more colours would have helped i think, and no doubt once mine arrives they'll bring out some really cool colours !!!!!!

The dealer did tell me though they are hoping to have some larger paint 'swatches' available by the time May comes around !

croyde

22,857 posts

230 months

Thursday 5th March 2015
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I've gone for Orange but keep thinking Guards as I'm 52 and will be 53 or older by the time it arrives biggrin

irocfan

40,388 posts

190 months

Thursday 5th March 2015
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lee jasp 48 said:
too old at 48 now for yellow or orange cars !
rubbish!! Currently I'm on a 'legend lime' Mustang and prior to that a yellow Dodge Ram - just turned 50. I like bright colours and so that's what I'll have wink