Bloodhound LSR Thread As Requested...
Discussion
McWigglebum4th said:
IN51GHT said:
I love to see forward thinkingNot only is it designed to break the world land speed record but the nose can also be used as a slide for a small child once you have finished with it
Sway said:
From what I understand, pretty much...
Starfighter, wheels added at the front & rear, so when they lowered it onto it's wheels due to the fact the fuselage wasn't supported in the usual place (at the wings) the "car" sagged in the middle, so they added an extra wheel in the middle.We at Bloodhound wish them, along with all of our competitors the best of luck but above all hope everybody stays safe.
I believe the F-104 was one of those aircraft that had the widow maker reputation amongst those who operated it.
Who knew that if you took the wings off and removed part of the structure in doing so (the wing spar I imagine) it would sag in the middle
A fourth wheel = more drag, more weight. I'd have thought they'd have been better off re-enforcing the structure.
I certainly wouldn't want to get in it and drive it at any sort of speed, its a very brave person that gets in that and firewalls the throttle.
Who knew that if you took the wings off and removed part of the structure in doing so (the wing spar I imagine) it would sag in the middle
A fourth wheel = more drag, more weight. I'd have thought they'd have been better off re-enforcing the structure.
I certainly wouldn't want to get in it and drive it at any sort of speed, its a very brave person that gets in that and firewalls the throttle.
I've just been on the Yanks LSR site, and it's come to my attention that you are lacking a vital member of the team. A dog. Therefore, in the absence of such an aforementioned team member, I can offer:-
You will have to put up with an insane volume of woofing, slobbering, and have a ready supply of biscuits (but be warned, anything edible will be consumed if within mouth range). Lack of attention will result in a vital piece of equipment being stolen as a play toy, and will be chewed to pieces, or buried.
PS. She's better looking than that scruffy Yank mutt as well.
You will have to put up with an insane volume of woofing, slobbering, and have a ready supply of biscuits (but be warned, anything edible will be consumed if within mouth range). Lack of attention will result in a vital piece of equipment being stolen as a play toy, and will be chewed to pieces, or buried.
PS. She's better looking than that scruffy Yank mutt as well.
Edited by robinessex on Wednesday 4th March 11:19
PanzerCommander said:
I believe the F-104 was one of those aircraft that had the widow maker reputation amongst those who operated it.
Who knew that if you took the wings off and removed part of the structure in doing so (the wing spar I imagine) it would sag in the middle
A fourth wheel = more drag, more weight. I'd have thought they'd have been better off re-enforcing the structure.
I certainly wouldn't want to get in it and drive it at any sort of speed, its a very brave person that gets in that and firewalls the throttle.
very much so, and as if the F-104 was not bad enough, they made the U2 from it, and that's pretty scary to fly too.Who knew that if you took the wings off and removed part of the structure in doing so (the wing spar I imagine) it would sag in the middle
A fourth wheel = more drag, more weight. I'd have thought they'd have been better off re-enforcing the structure.
I certainly wouldn't want to get in it and drive it at any sort of speed, its a very brave person that gets in that and firewalls the throttle.
fatbutt said:
Am I alone in being concerned about the American attempt? Compare and contrast their... ahem... engineered solution to the Bloodhound. I sincerely hope they don't push so hard as to put anyone at risk.
To be fair- you've got to be in it to win it.The basic premise of their idea has some merit, take fast plane, remove flying bits and add wheels. You could argue aerodynamics are important and other nonsense but at the end of the day it will go along the ground quickly on wheels so...
I hope neither the Americans nor the Bloodhound team conduct any crash testing with their vehicles and both are retired successfully post manned usage :-)
Soov535 said:
IN51GHT said:
when they lowered it onto it's wheels due to the fact the fuselage wasn't supported in the usual place (at the wings) the "car" sagged in the middle, so they added an extra wheel in the middle.
Is anyone daft enough to climb aboard that thing and light it up? Really?
CraigyMc said:
Pedantic point: it's called "North American Eagle" as there are a number of Canadians involved: it's not a "solo USA" effort.
Their engines were (re)built and run up on a test stand in Canada, by their Canadian engine guy, for example. Their machine shop is in Canada.
They have run their car up to about 500mph in testing so far, about 440mph with a female driver and just over 500mph with their male one.
What they are shooting for is 763mph (ThrustSSC's current record, from 1997) plus the minimum increment to take the land speed record, (1% more than that 763) - so circa 770mph.
To do this, their "car" (modified Lockheed F104 starfighter, originally built circa 1957) will have to go through the same transonic regime SSC did, but without the thorough, methodical work that went into SSC doing it safely on the ground. I don't know if they have CFD modelling which has sorted this out or not. Thrust SSC did a lot of modelling (both CFD and actual scale model at speed on a rocket sled) at great cost, because it was a professionally run project.
I also know that during the SSC development, some bright spark ran a model of Thrust2 (Noble's 633mph record car from 1983) through the CFD system, and figured out that it was only about 7mph under catastrophic liftoff at peak speed (650mph) during its record run.
I have my fingers crossed the NA eagle project doesn't end in tears.
Ideally, Bloodhound will obviate the risk by (safely) pushing the record so far out of reach there's no point in attempting it.
Their engines were (re)built and run up on a test stand in Canada, by their Canadian engine guy, for example. Their machine shop is in Canada.
They have run their car up to about 500mph in testing so far, about 440mph with a female driver and just over 500mph with their male one.
What they are shooting for is 763mph (ThrustSSC's current record, from 1997) plus the minimum increment to take the land speed record, (1% more than that 763) - so circa 770mph.
To do this, their "car" (modified Lockheed F104 starfighter, originally built circa 1957) will have to go through the same transonic regime SSC did, but without the thorough, methodical work that went into SSC doing it safely on the ground. I don't know if they have CFD modelling which has sorted this out or not. Thrust SSC did a lot of modelling (both CFD and actual scale model at speed on a rocket sled) at great cost, because it was a professionally run project.
I also know that during the SSC development, some bright spark ran a model of Thrust2 (Noble's 633mph record car from 1983) through the CFD system, and figured out that it was only about 7mph under catastrophic liftoff at peak speed (650mph) during its record run.
I have my fingers crossed the NA eagle project doesn't end in tears.
Ideally, Bloodhound will obviate the risk by (safely) pushing the record so far out of reach there's no point in attempting it.
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