Caterham Academy Finance

Caterham Academy Finance

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rustywhite1984

Original Poster:

15 posts

159 months

Saturday 23rd November 2013
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Does anyone know if Caterham still offer a finance package on their Academy Package? They offered a very strong package at launch but can't find any recent info. Have sent them a couple of emails with no response yet. Before i give them a call thought I would ask if anyone here knows anything further.

Very interested in getting into curcuit racing and the caterham academy seems to be a really comprehensive package with the race licence, set up learning days and race season all in but I don't happen to have a spare £20k in the bank.

By the way I don't want to get into a debate about car finance, I am a 10 year main dealer car salesman and deal with finance everyday of the week, you are very unlikely to teach me anything.

Cheers

Pdelamare

659 posts

128 months

Saturday 23rd November 2013
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Email Jenny, she may know. jennyg@caterham.co.uk

pikeyboy

2,349 posts

214 months

Saturday 23rd November 2013
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Finance to buy a race car......you must be nuts

jonnyleroux

1,511 posts

260 months

Sunday 24th November 2013
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boy said:
Finance to buy a race car......you must be nuts
the person who is nuts is the one who does none of the things in life he wants to do because of some insane social stigma attached to borrowing money.

I have done a lot of very cool things, had some amazing holidays and owned some great cars in my life. All of it paid for with finance in some way or another. As long as you have a healthy attitude towards working and paying off your debts I see no reason why you shouldn't have what you want while you're young enough to enjoy them.

/2p

Jonny
BaT

SpeedYellow

2,533 posts

227 months

Sunday 24th November 2013
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jonnyleroux said:
the person who is nuts is the one who does none of the things in life he wants to do because of some insane social stigma attached to borrowing money.

I have done a lot of very cool things, had some amazing holidays and owned some great cars in my life. All of it paid for with finance in some way or another. As long as you have a healthy attitude towards working and paying off your debts I see no reason why you shouldn't have what you want while you're young enough to enjoy them.

/2p

Jonny
BaT
+1!

Turn7

23,605 posts

221 months

Sunday 24th November 2013
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jonnyleroux said:
the person who is nuts is the one who does none of the things in life he wants to do because of some insane social stigma attached to borrowing money.

I have done a lot of very cool things, had some amazing holidays and owned some great cars in my life. All of it paid for with finance in some way or another. As long as you have a healthy attitude towards working and paying off your debts I see no reason why you shouldn't have what you want while you're young enough to enjoy them.

/2p

Jonny
BaT
Amen to that Jonny!

joscal

2,078 posts

200 months

Sunday 24th November 2013
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I really don't understand the stigma with finance on here! My company sells high value capital equipment to household names and 99% is financed. Really don't see the problem!

Do all these people not have mortgages? If so they obviously can't afford their houses and are living way beyond their means...

griffgrog

705 posts

246 months

Sunday 24th November 2013
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They do indeed. Financing it is actually quite sensible IMO. They return a strong residual so if you want to keep your initial capital outlay to a minimum and just accept the depreciation as a cost of racing then its a good way to go. You can even insure against crash damage from racing so can effectively limit your losses.

Pdelamare

659 posts

128 months

Sunday 24th November 2013
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Jonnyleroux wins this thread.

Turtle head

296 posts

154 months

Sunday 24th November 2013
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jonnyleroux said:
boy said:
Finance to buy a race car......you must be nuts
the person who is nuts is the one who does none of the things in life he wants to do because of some insane social stigma attached to borrowing money.

I have done a lot of very cool things, had some amazing holidays and owned some great cars in my life. All of it paid for with finance in some way or another. As long as you have a healthy attitude towards working and paying off your debts I see no reason why you shouldn't have what you want while you're young enough to enjoy them.

/2p

Jonny
BaT
Spot on there my friend, my advocate is be sensible but not reckless with my money.

BertBert

19,035 posts

211 months

Sunday 24th November 2013
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rustywhite1984 said:
By the way I don't want to get into a debate about car finance, I am a 10 year main dealer car salesman and deal with finance everyday of the week, you are very unlikely to teach me anything.
Humility? biggrin

andylaight

173 posts

126 months

Sunday 24th November 2013
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Can your granny suck eggs? ;-)

BSA

98 posts

158 months

Monday 25th November 2013
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+1
I am a know it all, Well not quite that's why your having to borrow 20 k to go racing !

rustywhite1984

Original Poster:

15 posts

159 months

Monday 25th November 2013
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Pdelamare said:
Email Jenny, she may know. jennyg@caterham.co.uk
Thanks Pdelamare for the advice. email bounced back non delivered, which dealer does jenny work at? I'll see if I can contact her directly.

rustywhite1984

Original Poster:

15 posts

159 months

Monday 25th November 2013
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boy said:
Finance to buy a race car......you must be nuts
Thanks for turning this into a finance debate, just what I wasn't looking for.

rustywhite1984

Original Poster:

15 posts

159 months

Monday 25th November 2013
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BSA said:
+1
I am a know it all, Well not quite that's why your having to borrow 20 k to go racing !
Apologies for trying to keep to a point! I felt I had to be a bit stern to keep the tread to the question I was asking rather than a slagging match but seems to have happened anyway. Do you feel big now, do you feel really important now you've told someone off? Do you struggle to talk to people in the real world and prefer trying to bully on faceless Internet forums.

pikeyboy

2,349 posts

214 months

Monday 25th November 2013
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Johnny et al, I'm not anti finance but having chucky on a race car is diferent to a road car unless of course the op gets insurance, but that isnt cheap and will have a large excess in the event of a claim. As an example we all know how many accidents there are in a grads race so how much do caterham charge for a long front these days which the op will more than likely need at some point during a season. Starting off racing in a car that isnt paid for is not a smart move in my opinion.

pikeyboy

2,349 posts

214 months

Monday 25th November 2013
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rustywhite1984 said:
boy said:
Finance to buy a race car......you must be nuts
Thanks for turning this into a finance debate, just what I wasn't looking for.
I didnt turn this into a finance debate you did that by starting the thread.


Edited by boy on Monday 25th November 11:58

jonnyleroux

1,511 posts

260 months

Monday 25th November 2013
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boy said:
how much do caterham charge for a long front these days which the op will more than likely need at some point during a season.
Are you really trying to suggest that >50% of the 50+ Academy field will have a long-front at some point during the season?

Jonny
BaT


mrmr96

13,736 posts

204 months

Monday 25th November 2013
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boy said:
Johnny et al, I'm not anti finance but having chucky on a race car is diferent to a road car unless of course the op gets insurance, but that isnt cheap and will have a large excess in the event of a claim. As an example we all know how many accidents there are in a grads race so how much do caterham charge for a long front these days which the op will more than likely need at some point during a season. Starting off racing in a car that isnt paid for is not a smart move in my opinion.
What you're financing makes no difference what so ever to whether finance is a 'good idea' or not. Some people have come on here spouting that "I'd never borrow money to fund a depreciating asset". It makes no sense. How would it be better to pay cash for a "depreciating asset"? Both depreciate, paying cash doesn't prevent that.

Same kind of thing applies here. Financing a road car or financing a race car. Both are expensive. Both will be worth less than you paid for them when you sell them. Also, crashing and repairing a race car is no cheaper and no more expensive whether that car is financed or paid cash. Can't you see there's no relation at all?

The only POTENTIAL indication would be whether the OP has sufficient funds available to mend things/pay unexpected bills. Who knows, maybe he has £20k in the bank but wants to keep that as his fighting fund? Hence financing the car and keeping wedge back to pay the unexpected bills? I'd even go as far as to say that that strategy would make more sense than putting all the savings into the car and then having to apply for more credit each time a bill comes in.