What did you do in the garage yesterday?

What did you do in the garage yesterday?

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ChilliWhizz

11,992 posts

161 months

Tuesday 19th August 2014
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Sardonicus said:
phazed said:
How do I adjust the idle?
With the throttle stop I presume Peter, I take it this triple plenum set-up dont have an air bypass/bleed screw scratchchin
Bloody hell... even I new that...... smile

spend

12,581 posts

251 months

Tuesday 19th August 2014
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Hahahahaha wink

There are typically 4 routes for bypass / idle air:

- Past the throttle butterfly[s] ~ throttle stop adjustment normally
- Via the idle screw a bypass from the throttle into the plenum
- Through the stepper motor pipework (or other idle valve).
- Through the PCV from just before the throttle into the trumpet base (left of plenum)

..and from experience quite small changes in heads / inlet manifold / CR can make quite big differences to just the idle air (before you start playing with spark to fine tune).

Chuffmeister

3,597 posts

137 months

Wednesday 20th August 2014
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Silencer welded up and a bit of weld where the exhaust exits the silencer. Kept it as standard. Put the exhaust on this evening. It's much, much quieter, but a very deep rumble. Not so many pops and bangs. 50/50 about it at the moment scratchchin... Jury is out! I also had a couple of screw holes put in for track day silencer, but not so sure it will need them TBH!

It was a pig of a job getting the exhausts to protrude evenly at the back of the car. When I purchased the car, the exhaust wouldn't bolt to the engine block where it joins the y-piece and I think I know why now, because the exhaust sat to one side once it did. I bolted it up, drilled a new hole in the silencer plate and smeared some paint on the bare metal. Fits a treat now and the exhausts are much more even at the back.

Also, put the rear anti-roll bar back on with the Mondeo drop links, having had the ARB bent inwards by 25mm on each side, so they sit vertical... what a difference!!! You can actually feel it in the seat of your pants!


Pupp

12,218 posts

272 months

Wednesday 20th August 2014
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Top job on the exhaust, you can bet it will sound 'better' to onlookers than it sounds in the car... Get a mate to do a drive past for you!

Were you not temped to just try it without the rear ARB? Not run mine for years...

phazed

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21,844 posts

204 months

Wednesday 20th August 2014
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Chris, just loosen the U clamp on the Y piece to exhaust joint, get a pal to hold the tailpipes level and clamp up.

This is done with the bracket clamped to the exhaust.

Chuffmeister

3,597 posts

137 months

Wednesday 20th August 2014
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TBH, this is the first time I've noticed the ARB doing its thing, whereas before I had the ARB adjusted or with the original TVR drop links I couldn't tell much difference, however, like you say, I wonder if you could get away with it if you really wanted too, especially if you have good aftermarket adjustable shocks?

Hmmm... I see what you mean about the y-piece clamp, however, once it bolts to the block, would it make a difference? I couldn't get the exhausts even when I put it together for the MOT a few weeks ago. I'm wondering if when they did the original 'sports' conversion, or when they welded the last flexi piece on, they had do it a couple of mm out, pushing the exhaust to one side? Anyway, another bolt hole in the mounting plate sorted it.

I'm keeping an eye on the sump now after re-sealing it.

Tyre Tread

10,534 posts

216 months

Wednesday 20th August 2014
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I had a rear ARB mount break after I fitted SH drop links and was looking at options for welding it up (there are aftermaket strentehning plates available off the shelf as its a common problem) when Pupp suggested leaving it off.

I haven't had a rear ARB on the car for 4 years now. I find it more progressive on the back end before it lets go. Still have the original shocks BTW.

QBee

20,957 posts

144 months

Wednesday 20th August 2014
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Tyre Tread said:
I had a rear ARB mount break after I fitted SH drop links and was looking at options for welding it up (there are aftermaket strentehning plates available off the shelf as its a common problem) when Pupp suggested leaving it off.

I haven't had a rear ARB on the car for 4 years now. I find it more progressive on the back end before it lets go. Still have the original shocks BTW.
I'd love to know more. You only have to look at the rear ARB from underneath to realise it is about as much use as a fart in a space suit.
I have left mine on to date, as I do track days and don't want to find out what it does the armco way.
Do you take your car on track? Your comment implies you either do that, or are a regular at visiting the countryside backwards, through a hedge, at speed?

Tyre Tread

10,534 posts

216 months

Wednesday 20th August 2014
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QBee said:
I'd love to know more. You only have to look at the rear ARB from underneath to realise it is about as much use as a fart in a space suit.
I have left mine on to date, as I do track days and don't want to find out what it does the armco way.
Do you take your car on track? Your comment implies you either do that, or are a regular at visiting the countryside backwards, through a hedge, at speed?
hehe
No I do neither on a regular basis. In fact I have only tracked it on the Asda charity days but I do 'press on' a wee bit from time to time wink

Just take it off and have a play on the road through corners.

TV8

3,122 posts

175 months

Wednesday 20th August 2014
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Chuffmeister said:
Silencer welded up and a bit of weld where the exhaust exits the silencer. Kept it as standard. Put the exhaust on this evening. It's much, much quieter, but a very deep rumble. Not so many pops and bangs. 50/50 about it at the moment scratchchin... Jury is out! I also had a couple of screw holes put in for track day silencer, but not so sure it will need them TBH!
I was hoping that main and pre-cats out and standard back box would keep the smiles per mile factor up but it's too quiet unless under lots of throttle. Even my mum noticed last time I called in to see her that she didn't here me coming like the old car!

QBee

20,957 posts

144 months

Wednesday 20th August 2014
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Just remember, if you do track days, that all cats out, Clive Y and standard silencer is 105-108 decibels at 4500 rpm, so you will just about get on track, or need add on silencers. I cannot go to Goodwood, Donington, Castle Combe and many track days at Brands Hatch, Mallory, Croft etc., I am too loud.
Mine doesn't sound particularly loud - on the TVRCC run I went on last weekend, around the Peak District, mine was positively quiet.

Kokkolanpoika

161 posts

151 months

Wednesday 20th August 2014
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Also another head has been welded..
Only problem is JIG (20mm steel plate)attachment bolt is very tight in head.. Need slightly heat and hammering to get it out.. Without heating it wont come out.. All other 9 headbolts hole is ok. This is slightly tight after welding.. Need to drill 0.5mm bigger hole or clean it.. Bolt is M12



I spend 2 hours for porting to get slightly bigger port to get TIG inside the track.. And it took approx 6-7 hours for welding etc..

We measure head straightness and we have to machine approx 0.04mm to get head back to straight.. So ok to use without milling. But for better sealing it is better to mill..
Also i have to make pressure test before any machining..'

Any thought?

Chuffmeister

3,597 posts

137 months

Wednesday 20th August 2014
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TV8 said:
I was hoping that main and pre-cats out and standard back box would keep the smiles per mile factor up but it's too quiet unless under lots of throttle. Even my mum noticed last time I called in to see her that she didn't here me coming like the old car!
I agree, it is quiet, but in some ways it's okay. Ideally, somebody would develop a valve exhaust to fit or develop a guide to fitting a couple of valves that could be opened and closed electronically, so you could have the best of both worlds. Quite a few of the yank machines have them, but I'm not sure if the silencers will fit the Chim. Having driven around today, it was much more comfortable on cruise, but could do with more wellie when under load.

Pupp

12,218 posts

272 months

Wednesday 20th August 2014
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QBee said:
Tyre Tread said:
I had a rear ARB mount break after I fitted SH drop links and was looking at options for welding it up (there are aftermaket strentehning plates available off the shelf as its a common problem) when Pupp suggested leaving it off.

I haven't had a rear ARB on the car for 4 years now. I find it more progressive on the back end before it lets go. Still have the original shocks BTW.
I'd love to know more. You only have to look at the rear ARB from underneath to realise it is about as much use as a fart in a space suit.
I have left mine on to date, as I do track days and don't want to find out what it does the armco way.
Do you take your car on track? Your comment implies you either do that, or are a regular at visiting the countryside backwards, through a hedge, at speed?
Well, Griffdude on here does pretty well without one on his Griff - well enough to be more than a contender in the TVR Speed Championship

I tried original type replacement droplinks and then rose-jointed ones. Never did like the complete lack of feel; took the thing off also when a wishbone bracket fractured.... different car smile

QBee

20,957 posts

144 months

Wednesday 20th August 2014
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Thanks Pupp. Am doing a track day a week on Monday, and a sprint day this Friday. I will take it off and see what happens.

Pupp

12,218 posts

272 months

Wednesday 20th August 2014
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You may need to firm up the damping a tad, especially compression if it's separately adjustable on your units

SILICONEKID345HP

14,997 posts

231 months

Wednesday 20th August 2014
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QBee said:
Thanks Pupp. Am doing a track day a week on Monday, and a sprint day this Friday. I will take it off and see what happens.
Where is the sprint Anthony ? sorry return button has stopped working

QBee

20,957 posts

144 months

Wednesday 20th August 2014
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Pupp said:
You may need to firm up the damping a tad, especially compression if it's separately adjustable on your units
Single adjuster. But I will try different settings. I usually have the rears fairly soft, to stop it hopping on tight corners, but will try different settings.

It's Curborough, Daz.

SILICONEKID345HP

14,997 posts

231 months

Wednesday 20th August 2014
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QBee said:
Single adjuster. But I will try different settings. I usually have the rears fairly soft, to stop it hopping on tight corners, but will try different settings.

It's Curborough, Daz.
Do you need a roll bar to enter ?

phazed

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21,844 posts

204 months

Wednesday 20th August 2014
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No, you need eFF all!