Royal mail "scam"

[mdavids]

http://singletrackworld.com/forum/topic/royal-mail...

Guy posts off rear shock from a full suspension mountain bike to get repaired. Royal mail confiscate and destroy the shock as its deemed a dangerous item - despite the fact that this kind of item goes through the post all the time (I've done it myself several times - they are worth £100s )

Forum members then discover ebay accounts selling various confiscated goods, apparently deemed too dangerous to handle by RM but not too dangerous to pass on.... or sell on ebay with RM as the delivery service.

[simoid]

It was confiscated because it was dangerous to transport it?

[Paulm4]

I read the original thread, out of order imo. Like you said, how can they say that something is too dangerous to transport yet be happy to store/sell it!
I posted a parcel yesterday and they had a big sign stating that the tellers would have to ask what was in parcels. If you didn't tell them then they wouldn't post it.

[Roo]

If they sell a confiscated item on ebay how do they get it to the buyer?

[simoid]

Gas shocks?

http://www.postoffice.co.uk/prohibited-goods-UK

Ts n Cs said:

You are responsible for checking whether or not an item is prohibited or restricted. If you send prohibited goods or restricted goods (and you do not comply with the relevant terms and conditions), we may deal with your items as we see fit, including but not limited to, disposing of the parcels concerned (in whole or in part).

...

Gases that are compressed, liquefied or dissolved under pressure, permanent gases which cannot be liquefied at ambient temperatures, liquefied gases which become liquid under pressure at ambient temperatures, dissolved gases which are dissolved under pressure in a solvent.

[Snowboy]

I suppose it's possible it wasn't safely packed or didn't have the correct labelling or something like that?

Although that would depend on whether it was accepted over the counter or put in a postbox.
(Not that you can drop big parcels in post boxes.)

[klingelton]

according to royal fail's t&c's, you can't send things using bubble wrap.

[anonymous-user]

Subject to various statutory constraints unlikely to apply here [EDIT: On reflection, the Unfair Terms in Consumer Contracts Regulations 1999 might apply and knock down the clause BUT Royal Mail has a potential counter argument based on the Postal Services Act - see below], parties to a contract can agree whatever they like.

[EDIT: Subject to the Postal Services Act point (see page 3 below)], one argument against Royal Mail implementing its contractual terms could be that the term in question is onerous or unusual and so should be specifically drawn to the attention of the customer, but that argument will likely fail if the customer has clicked the "I agree" button on a website or when filling in a form at the counter. This is a modern equivalent of L'Estrange v F Graucob Ltd [1934] 2 KB 394.

If the 1999 Regulation apply, then Royal Mail could be liable for converting (ie appropriating) the goods.

Edited by anonymous-user on Friday 20th December 19:11

[egor110]

Has the o/p contacted royal mail for a answer?

They normally respond quickly to there Twitter account.

[lbc]

You are also not allowed to send batteries via Royal Mail either.

The post office always ask now if your parcel contains any batteries.

[Dan_1981]

Anyone have a link to the RM ebay account or seller name?

[Dan_1981]

hora said:

Two accounts:

http://www.ebay.co.uk/usr/sharonj2013

http://www.ebay.co.uk/usr/sharonkind123

I wonder if one ever bided on the other

Ahhhh, so not even "official" accounts - just in some random womans name?

Infact listed as a sole trader with a home address and hotmail email address????

Is that all aboveboard?

[Janluke]

All the postage options listed on those EBay accounts is RM!

Is she just buying the confiscated stock from RM rather than those accounts being an RM front

[anonymous-user]

Dan_1981 said:

Ahhhh, so not even "official" accounts - just in some random womans name?

Infact listed as a sole trader with a home address and hotmail email address????

Is that all aboveboard?

Probably no more or less above board than expecting them to convey items listed as Prohibited in their T&Cs.

[mikeveal]

lbc said:

You are also not allowed to send batteries via Royal Mail either.

The post office always ask now if your parcel contains any batteries.

I can see their point, definitely dangerous, but how the hell would you wrap one anyway?

[kiethton]

repost

http://www.pistonheads.com/xforums/topic.asp?h=0&a...

[dazz1871part2]

kiethton said:

repost

http://www.pistonheads.com/xforums/topic.asp?h=0&a...

How is this a repost?? This one was made last night and the other one that you link was made today and the one you link asking about this one. He's 1st 3 words in other topic is "From another forum"

Edited by dazz1871part2 on Friday 20th December 12:50

[funkyrobot]

Janluke said:

All the postage options listed on those EBay accounts is RM!

Is she just buying the confiscated stock from RM rather than those accounts being an RM front

I was going to ask how items listed on the ebay site get delivered.

[simoid]

Crossflow Kid said:

Probably no more or less above board than expecting them to convey items listed as Prohibited in their T&Cs.

Contract with Royal Mail says Royal Mail can do what they like with the confiscated goods.

Not sure of the morality, mind.

[simoid]

dazz1871part2 said:

How is this a repost?? This one was made last night and the other one that you link was made today and the one you link asking about this one. He's 1st 3 words in other topic is "From another forum"

Edited by dazz1871part2 on Friday 20th December 12:50

Referring to a different website I think...